Pain in sternum
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Hi I have had PMR for about 3 years. I am on my second attempt at tapering
Now down to 6mg pres. Over the last few months I have been suffering really bad pain in my sternum. Thought it may be muscle strain of some kind but I have seen similar comments on this forum. Just wondered if it was anything to do with the meds or the ONE itself? Or just plain old muscle strain. Any thoughts/comments welcome
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shirley40391
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danielle_65358 shirley40391
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Shirley,
Are you taking the Pred with food or on an empty stomach? It can do damage to your digestive system including your esophagus.
After 3 years I'm sure you know this.
I just started taking Omeprazole(nexium)as I've experienced similiar symptoms. It has helped.
Just a thought...
shirley40391 danielle_65358
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dan38655 shirley40391
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Pain in the sternum and ribcage seems like definitely one of the pmr symptoms I experienced. It was quite bad when first rising from bed, and made sneezing very painful at any time of day when my pmr flared.
I picked my rheumatologist's brain at my last visit, and I asked about the mechanism that actually causes the pain. He dismissed my suggestion of vasculitis and told me that there is a covering layer on certain connective tissues that gets attacked by the immune system. Ligaments and tendons if I recall. This is relieved by prednisone, just like all of the other pmr symptoms.
shirley40391 dan38655
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amkoffee shirley40391
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EileenH shirley40391
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Your description is a bit vague - but it could be costochondritis, inflammation of the cartilage between the ribs and the sternum. It isn't uncommon in PMR and with pred.
Or it could be myofascial pain syndrome - what Dan describes probably, inflammation of the fascia which sheaths muscle groups, the transparent skin that you see around pieces of meat. It can be inflamed, responds to higher doses of pred but then returns as you reduce. However, oral pred isn't the best way to deal with it - steroid injections and manual mobilisation of the trigger points that form in the muscles works far better with fewer side effects.
The trigger spots are due to local concentrations of the same inflammatory substances that cause PMR except in PMR they are systemic (all through the body). The trigger spots tend to form in pairs on either side of the spine, in the shoulder muscles, about rib level and in the low back, where the baby's dimples are. They can cause muscles to be tight and even to spasm - and then it leads to irritation of nerves in the area and that can cause referred pain in the appropriate area. In the shoulders the pain will be arms, shoulders and neck, at rib level it goes round into the ribs and in the low back the back muscles spasm and cause sciatic problems right down into the legs. It can be one-sided or both.
I had steroid injections and a technique called needling into the back muscles which were as hard as boards, done by the pain clinic. A physio also did manual mobilisation of the trigger spots. There is no point trying to do ordinary physio until the back muscles are soft again - otherwise the spasms get worse. I live in Italy so what is available may not be the same as you can find on the NHS. But there are complementary medicine and physiotherapy practices that offer the needling technique - you'd have to find one though. I also found Bowen therapy helped a lot and so have others on the PMR forums - it didn't completely eradicate it but every little helps. It doesn't help the PMR, just the add-ons but you know after 1 or 2 sessions that it is doing something, even if at first it is temporary. There is probably little point carrying on for more than 3 or 4 sessions if you can't feel some difference.
shirley40391 EileenH
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As ever Eileen thanks so much for all the information. I have looked Costochondritis up and sure enough it seems to tick all the boxes. Just so long as I know what I am dealing with I can 'get on with it' knowing that it will resolve itself eventually. If I can get some therapy as you suggest, hopefully it will make things a little better though I live in a very rural area and there isn't much available here. Many thanks again.
bob73443 shirley40391
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Shirley,
I have had "costocondritis" almost ever since the beginning of my journey with PMR. I have to hold my sternum when I sneeze or I see stars. I also have had pain under my right rib cage -- and a strange "tingling" sensation under my right clavicle ever since the beginning (2 years now).
I started at 20 MG, which almost totally knocked out all the pain immediately from my back, legs, shoulders, etc. I'm now down to 6 mg using the slow method.
But the costocondritis seems to have been constant throughout the reduction, which probably means it's not the direct result of the PMR?
All the best,
shirley40391 bob73443
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. It seems that costochondritis is one of the last things to go on our journey down to low doses of Pred. It is a comfort to know that this isn't unusual and it is going to be ok. I have found over the last few years that this forum always 'comes to the rescue' when I have any doubts and fears. What would we do without one another? Best wishes to you and I hope you continue to have success with your reduction