Panic attack or heart problem?
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I'm a 26 year old female and have suffered with panic attacks and anxiety for about 7 years. I have had many tests over the years because of frequent PVCs, countless ECGs, echo, blood tests, 48hr monitors, all ok.
On about 4 or 5 occasions in the last couple of years I have had episodes of heart racing really fast (180-200bpm) for no apparent reason. It's always been in the morning, and mostly with slight exertion like walking upstairs, hoovering etc. I know it isn't SVT because it's more of a gradual increase and decrease, and I don't think it can be atrial fibrillation as it's not irregular. I don't get any symptoms when it happens like chest pain or shortness of breath. It has lasted anything from 15 mins to 45 mins. I just don't know if it's a panic attack or something serious. Last time it happened I didnt feel overly panicky, just very aware of this fast heart rate. It also seems to fluctuate a bit, like it's coming in waves.
I have done a lot of googling and can't find any particular heart problem that fits this symptom. I'm really hoping its panic attacks but there's this doubt in my mind that it could be something else and it's stopping me from living my life, I feel like I'm just waiting for it to happen again any time.
Are there any heart problems that could cause this? I am fairly healthy, don't smoke, drink alcohol or caffeine, eat fairly healthy and am not overweight. I have been to the Gp and they don't really know what to say except my risk is very low. Any reassurance would be gratefully received.
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david60784 Anna80698
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I have panic attacks, mine can last hours and come on any time of the day and nite for no reason. Once I had blured vision in both eyes, my GP refered me to the hospital everything OK. Moving on I had a 3 way by pass the surgeon said to me before the op you may get palputations afterwards o yes the 7 days I was in hospital I got them ever morning . The surgeons right hand man gave me an ECG every morning ALL OK. Please get your GP to refer you to the cardiac consultants on of the best tests is an angagram camera through the groin normal ( you do not feel a thing ). This will show ALL the functions of your heart, go for it.
All the best
Anna80698 david60784
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I know there are further tests but I'm reluctant to have any invasive tests like an angiogram unless I truly need one, and i guess I'm still hoping that these are 'just' panic attacks and nothing more sinister.
david60784 Anna80698
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I had pains in my jaw and if someone had put a needle in my chest and in my back
My GP refered me for tests in the end I had an angagram NOT painful. The consultant said to me after the tests ( you are seriously ill ) you are going to have a 4 way by pass in 4 weeks time. I had it in 3 weeks bearing in mind other tests needed to be done, at Broad Green Liverpool.
Please full up and badger GP get sorted out improve your quality of life. You only live once.
Anna80698 david60784
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Florabunda Anna80698
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The good news is that after about a year of trying meds, I found a perfect one! I'm 58 and the A Fib is pretty well controlled. Which is a long way of saying: if you are not getting breathless and feel otherwise pretty well - then your heart is in pretty good shape. But you could feel a lot better and avoid future problems by getting a cardiac referral.
Anxiety can make your pulse race - but I suspect that having the irregular beat is a good reason why you are anxious. Your body is trying to tell you something. The something is: you could feel better and be less anxious if this were sorted.
I'm a biologist/med writer not a doctor - but it does sound like SVT to me. The paroxysmal things(I have paroxysmal AF) are a bugger to find. Keep diary when it happens and the detail and go see someone.
I'm sure you know this but if the heart were a house, the blood vessels are the plumbing where blockages (heart attacks/clots) and leaks (anuerisms) can estroy it; the building itself is are the heart walls/vavles etc and they can weaken (heart failure) and the electrical wiring of the house is...the electrical wiring in the heart. We've got some short circuits!
So, sounds like you have a loose wire - can be fixed when you find it.
Tell us what happens....and good luck!
Anna80698 Florabunda
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I gather that AF usually feels quite erratic/irregular, whereas mine is very regular, so I'm fairly sure that's not what mine is.
On the other hand, I think SVT starts and stops suddenly, like flipping a switch, which doesn't happen to me. Mine is more of a gradual increase and decrease. Do you still think it's possible it could be SVT?
Problem is, because it's so infrequent, there's no point having another 7 day monitor. Normal ECGs always fine, bloods are fine, low cholesterol, blood pressure fine, no structural heart problems. So what else could they do?! I am already prescribed a very low dose of propranolol (for the PVCs but mainly for panic attacks), and these episodes have always happened before I've taken a beta blocker.
I can't help wondering if several years of anxiety and panic attacks has just left me extremely sensitive to adrenaline and the smallest amount or slightest inbalance can set my heart off thundering away.
Are you aware of any other heart conditions that could cause sinus tachycardia? I've only come across AF, VT and SVT, none of which seem to fit my symptoms. IST (Inappropriate Sinus Tachycardia) sounds more likely but tends to be more constant, with a high resting heart rate. But my RHR is around 60bpm. It sounds daft but I guess I'm looking for someone to tell me it definitely isn't anything to worry about based on my symptoms. Wishful thinking...
CroydonGeorge Anna80698
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Sometimes one can experience both A.Fib and sometimes A.Flut and you will find that all cardio consultants acknowledge these two symptons as being similar as they both present with fast heart-beat and are sometimes confused by patients.
Hope you are doing OK. Good wishes, George
david60784 Anna80698
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Hope you go for tests my neighbour is 80 he has ( panic attacks for over 50 + years.
All the best
Dave
wim24663 Anna80698
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Pls look into Automatic Atrial Tachycardia, This is a form of tachycardia originating
from the atria with a gradual onset!!! So it is a form of SVT.
It is different from IST as this form originates from the sinus node.
People with IST however experience fast heartrates sitting down, mostly above 100bpm. So I would bet on AT ( automatic ).
Look for a very good Electro-fysiologist,. This is a cardiologist who specializes in heart rhythem problems.
Panic attacks can cause heartracing however rates of 180-200 are almost always some form of SVT/VT.
Good luck and keep us posted!
Anna80698 wim24663
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david60784 Anna80698
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Anna we all have ( white coat ) even my GP when he takes his children to to the GP. 100/200 ok its a bit high I have had mine equal to that look at this. Are you on any other medication ? this can cause problems. have you changed tablets ???. been on diets other life changes ??. re thing My heart sugeon is happy to take me off propanalol SPEAKS volumes..
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