Part I Symfony Lens of Part II Synergy lens update
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Hello,
As promised, I am going to update here with regard to my experience. I am a 48 F who found out in late November that I have fast-growing cataracts in both eyes.
As noted on other threads in this forum, my surgeon recommended the Symfony in my dominant (left) eye and the Synergy in my other eye. Yesterday, I had the first procedure. I am not ashamed to tell anyone here that I was terrified - of so many things - the procedure, trusting the surgeon, etc. The procedure seemed to run with military precision. I went to a surgery center where I checked in, paid the amount owed there, was brought back to a bed (after signing numerous forms), and was told I would get six rounds of eye drops and then the anesthesiologist would visit me soon to chat. He did and I was given something (I don't remember what!) to relax me which was placed under my tongue. It definitely worked because I wasn't too bothered about what was about to happen anymore (yay!).
After all of the eye drops and stuff under my tongue, I was taken to the first part of the surgery - the laser part. A lady placed me under the machine and the surgeon came in and did his bit. I just looked at some lights for it seemed like less than a minute and that part was over. I was then wheeled back to the bay area and awaited the next part of the surgery - maybe 5-10 minutes - but not long. Then I was wheeled into another room where I was draped except for the eye being done. That part was weird - I was awake and could hear and see some different lights and felt pressure at different parts. This part of the surgery lasted about 10 minutes. I was then wheeled out to another area, given some sun glasses, something to drink and then sent home!
Yesterday was a complete blur - I could not see ANYTHING all day out of that eye. It was of course dilated to the MAX and that dilation still had not gone away by bedtime (surgery at 11 something AM). This morning was a different story. I was seeing, for the first time in my adult life without a contact or glasses in that eye!!! To give you an idea of how bad my cataract was, I could not even see the big E on the chart with my glasses on. This morning, I am delighted to say that my far sight was 20/15 and my near was 20/25!! The near is still very fuzzy though! They tell me this should improve as the eye heals. Also, I am getting some flashes of light in the side of my eye. The optometrist says this is the lens settling and should stop within a few weeks.
Next Monday, I am getting the Syngery in my other eye. I asked the optometrist about this in the follow-up again as to why the different lens. She said that one needs two perfect eyes to have Synergy in both eyes and my dominant is slightly less than perfect. She also says that they have given this combination to many people and it works well. She also said that the Synergy should give me better close-up vision.
I'll provide another update next week once the other eye is done. So far so good!!! I am very thankful to those of you on here who told me to look for a good surgeon as a priority! As he is good, he not only did his assessment, but he also sent me to a retinologist to get checked out before he would touch my eyes. He also researches and publishes A LOT on this topic - so I felt confident that I was in good hands. I am hoping for as good as an outcome on the other eye!
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Sue.An2 Jennifer_Guess
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So happy for you. I have Symfony both eyes and have really good vision. I was able to see clearly 24 hours after my surgery.
Yes finding a hood surgeon that communicates with you makes a big difference.
Jennifer_Guess Sue.An2
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Thanks @Sue.An2 I am hoping there isn't anything to this blurriness I am having. I have a check up in the morning and will see what they say.
Sue.An2 Jennifer_Guess
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Could also be swelling too as eye heals. I found vision best early morning - it wouldn't be as crisp either after putting drops in. Stayed crisp once drop regiment was over. Hoping same for you. This is why all who have had cataract surgery never recommend having 2nd eye done soon after first. Eye needs time to heal first and any adjustments needed can be made to 2nd eye. Your IOL once settled can give you .25 diopter either way during healing process.
RonAKA Jennifer_Guess
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The most common cause of blurriness after cataract surgery is posterior capsule opacification (PCO). There are varying reports on how quickly it can happen after surgery. My thoughts are that it would be unusual to have it this quickly though.
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The other possibilities would be that the lens has moved off center, or has tilted. Or, if it is a toric type, it may have rotated out of position.
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All things you should ask about at your post op follow up.
Jennifer_Guess RonAKA
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Hi @Sue.An2 and @ronAKA- had a check up today - all good. She said it's probably still healing and maybe still some internal inflammation that she cannot see. Like Sue says, I am mostly clear in the AM when I wake up and things get kind of fuzzy throughout the day. I am constantly using the computer for work, so this may be contributing to a slow recovery! 2nd eye is done on Monday. Hopefully things improve by then!
Jennifer_Guess
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Hi everyone,
Tomorrow will be two weeks since I had the Symfony implanted and is also the day I will have the Synergy done. The blurriness and cloudiness have gone away, so I guess two weeks was the time needed for my eye to heal. I can read my phone and books pretty well and the night glare while driving has significantly reduced (still there - but not quite so scary!). So I decided to go ahead and get the 2nd eye done as it does have a moderate cataract that causes a cloud/haze on everything.
Tomorrow is also MLK day and my birthday. Fingers crossed for implant 2!
soks Jennifer_Guess
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good luck. very interested in the comparison of the two.
Jennifer_Guess soks
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Thanks! Right now, I am in the dreaded fasting (no coffee) part of the day!!! I can easily go without food (I intermittent fast regularly), but coffee is another story! Surgery isn't for another 6 hours.
rwbil Jennifer_Guess
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That is so funny as I too intermittent fast so no food in the morning is no problem, but no coffee to wake up is another matter. This is why you schedule your surgery for the morning.
Wishing you the best and let us know how everything went.
Jennifer_Guess rwbil
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Hi @rwbil - I wish! They don't allow us to schedule - they call and tell you your time.
Just woke up - have not yet been to the morning check up. Yesterday was worse than the first one. It was actually painful - not sure why, but my eye was burning a lot and I could feel the pressure in the procedure a lot more. The eye is VERY red today.
I'll report back here after my morning appointment. I can see out of it, so that's a good sign 😃
Jennifer_Guess rwbil
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@rwbil - also, I LOVE IF. It really helps me to keep my weight in check and feel good. I fast for about 20-22 hours each day and have a smoothie when I break my fast and then one meal - mostly vegetarian except for chicken/fish maybe every two weeks. I started doing it in 2019 and will probably do it the rest of my life. I think it helps with mental clarity and overall health. What got you started on IF?
soks Jennifer_Guess
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what if that caused the cataracts?
Sue.An2 rwbil
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Hope all went well. Should have looked at your latest post before sending you my long post. What lens did you go with.
Odd you should mention IF - seriously looking into that.
RonAKA Jennifer_Guess
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My wife reported similar on her second eye. She was nearly blind in the first eye done and could not see much. Her vision was much better in the second eye, and she was much more aware of the procedure. Felt it was more uncomfortable than the first one. No difference in the recovery though. She had the 1/2 Ativan under the tongue for sedation, which was the same as the first time. I had an IV sedation that made me very unaware of everything that was going on with my first eye. My next eye is likely to be done in this same clinic as my wife, and I expect the Ativan treatment, as it is not a hospital. I am not really looking forward to that method, but it is either that or wait for months or years for COVID to get into a hospital.
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Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Jennifer_Guess soks
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Hmmm, I am not sure that it would. Is there information out there that IF causes cataracts?
Jennifer_Guess Sue.An2
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@Sue.An2,
Hi Sue Ann,
I stuck with what my surgeon recommended - the Symfony in my dominant eye and Synergy in the other one. So far so good.
I really like IF - basically, I drink my smoothie around 11 am to break my fast (I do have black coffee in the AM which does not break it) and then have my main meal at either 12 or 1PM (depending on schedule). I fast the rest of the time. It's quite freeing to my life as I am not constantly thinking about what's next for food. Having the same smoothie and then one meal simplifies my life. I actually also just feel better and sleep MUCH better. I did not realize what eating a 3rd meal around 6-7 pm was doing do my sleep until I stopped. This way of eating did affect my ability to process alcohol...like, really, one glass of wine max. I don't think that's a bad thing though.
Jennifer_Guess RonAKA
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Interesting. My nurse yesterday actually told me that I would be more aware this time of what's going on and that the Versed would not be as effective. So, I wonder if it was just as painful the first time, but I just don't remember it.
Good luck for your 2nd surgery. I am definitely glad it's over 😃
rwbil Jennifer_Guess
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First how are you doing. Hope all is going well.
20-22 IF, you are a trooper. I am a whimp in comparison. I pretty much always do 12 hours, which is the bare IF minimum and easy to do. IMHO everyone should do 12 hours to give your digestive system time to rest and catch up. Normally I do between 14-16 hour IF.
Jennifer_Guess rwbil
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@rwbil - I am doing better as the day progresses. I posted an update which is on the next page.
It took me a couple of years to work up to this long to fast. I started with 12. I've only been able to do 36 hours once, but that is my next goal. It was nice to fast for the surgery and not be bothered about eating - even hours afterward. Now the coffee though...hmm, that one not so easy, ha ha! 14-16 is great! I do believe the science in terms of cell regeneration etc. There was a story on BBC a few years ago of a 100-year old who walks the marathon each year. He eats only half the normal calories and attributes his good health and longevity to that.
Jennifer_Guess
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Half the normal calories each day I meant to say.
rwbil Jennifer_Guess
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Calorie restriction has shown to work to lengthen life spans. I don't know if you are familiar with the mice studies and IF, but that is what kicked off the trend. The problem is a mouse's 16 hours is not the same as a human 16 hours. I have read that a mice 16 hours would be like days for a human, so your 36 hour fast is actually probably very good.
But if the IF helps one control body fat then that is critical as being obese leads to so many other health issues. I know we are way off topic, but I also do HIIT classes sorta like crossfit, but you can not use that name as it is trademarked.
There have been studies that the human body needs obstacles / stress, obviously not ones that might lead to injury or death, to grow stronger and live longer. If you are not familiar with David Sinclair and his book and work you might enjoy reading and following his podcast. But I would be very wary of using mice studies and thinking they relate to humans. He also did a really good interiew on the Joe Rogan Podcast which you can catch on spotify. This will give you something to do during your recovery stage.
Jennifer_Guess rwbil
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Hi @rwbil - thanks for the suggestion. I'll check him out. I searched on Amazon and his book looks very interesting. I'll order it as it looks to be an interesting read.
Ive heard of Joe Rogan - maybe I'll try him out on my weekly drives.
Thanks again 😃
Sue.An2 Jennifer_Guess
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Thanks for this. Doing a bit of reading up on IF. I see there are a few ways and schedules one can follow. Wine in the evenings on weekends will be hard. Also coffee wish I could drink it black - huge fan of cream.
For my surgeries they gave me Ativan 15 min ahead of when they called me in to surgical room. Poured a vial of numbing drops into the eye. Felt a bit of pressure each time but that was it. interesting the different processes depending where you live or place you go to. Not a lot of options in Canada - mine done at the hospital.
Sue.An2 rwbil
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This would be good for my grocery bill too. Rising costs that see no end right now.
Jennifer_Guess Sue.An2
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Also meant to say that I am doing a dry January and thinking about extending it as I am feeling so much better. I did not drink heavily - but even once a week I would feel pretty bad for a couple of days.
Jennifer_Guess Sue.An2
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Hi @Sue.An2,
I responded but something in my message got it sent to the moderation queue. I noted that Dr. Fung says that a little bit of creamer in coffee is okay. I sometimes have a splash of Almond milk in mine and when not fasting I will have a Coconut milk latte from Starbucks as a treat (yummy!).
Also, noted that it is very interesting with regard to the difference in surgeries between countries (I wonder what my experience would have been like in the UK), but also between surgeries with the same surgeon! My 2nd eye was not a good experience like the first one. There was a different surgical staff and maybe this was the reason. I remember the placement of the thing on my eye before he did the surgery was rougher and the placement of the eye drops/water during the surgery a bit haphazard and not pleasant at all. Today, my eye is bruised as well! Good thing I put my classes online this week as going in with this shiner would need explaining! Of course it will still be there next week, but can at least put some make up on it by then.
The good news is that I can see VERY well and that is most important. In fact, the Synergy lens (the one implanted two days ago) is seeing better for me than the Symfony (two weeks ago). The Symfony eye just is not as clear! So, definitely the Synergy seems to be better and I guess that makes sense as it's newer in the J&J family.
Sue.An2 Jennifer_Guess
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Yes Synergy newer - when I got Symfony it was brand new. Always better IOLs being developed.
Sounds like your 2nd surgery indeed rough! The surgical team consisted of 2 for me. Nurse had me stand and tilt my head back while she poured numbing vial into the eye. after s minute she had me lay down and I did not know or feel anything after that. Pressure minimal. Stared straight up at 3 lights - reddish. Took less than 10 min.
Jennifer_Guess Sue.An2
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My 1st one was like this - very smooth. Glad it's over 😃
soks Jennifer_Guess
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is your distance vision and vision quality better with synergy?
Jennifer_Guess soks
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Hi @soks - the distance and overall quality seem to be slightly better with the Synergy. Although I was told that the Synergy would give me better far off, my perception is that the Synergy is outperforming the Symfony on near, intermediate and far. So, I did not expect this. This Synergy lens seems to be having some slight issues - for example, it feels shaky in my eye like it's not quite settling. I am also still getting some infrequent peripheral flashes. So it seems to be taking its time settling into place. It may turn out to be better once it does - but it has been two weeks so who knows?
Jennifer_Guess
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I meant Symfony would give me better far off...
Jennifer_Guess
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Gosh - let me try this again! The Synergy seems to be outperforming the Symfony at all distances. The Symfony seems to be having some settling issues.
Sue.An2 Jennifer_Guess
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Hopefully your next visit with surgeon will provide answers. I didn't have any feeling Symfony was shaky or unsettled.Did have peripheral flashing of light that took several weeks to go away in one eye.
Jennifer_Guess Sue.An2
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Thanks @Sue.An2 - I don't think it's actually shaking - it just feels like that. The vision is great - so not sure why it 'feels' like it. It's not all the time either, so hopefully just settling in 😃