Partial Seizure symptoms and seeing the same image in both eyes

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Hello, my is Kameron, currently I'm a law enforcement major and as a hobby I like to do gaming streams. Earlier today I was streaming extremely late, the past two weeks or so my sleeping habits were really bad so I told myself I would end stream early but I ended up going on until 4am. When it came time to get to bed, I shut everything down and tried to go to sleep. I really don't know how to say this without it coming off as weird but I couldn't go to sleep.because I recalled this video a few months back about schyzophrenia and while I was thinking about it I could hear my mothers voice kind of internally just like i hear mine. I never have had any history of schyzophrenia so I wrote it off as me over exaggerating or some sort of anxiety and went to sleep. When I came to things we're extremely  weird, I felt like i was being controlled or something and I kept feeling these waves of vibration go through my head. Something to also note was that I was in a state of sleep paralysis and couldn't move anything, my body felt extremely out of energy. Anyways the vibrations in my head came in waves and they progressively got stronger to the point where I couldn't see and could only hear a sound I could only describe as one similar to the sound planets make (if you look for videos of planet sound s on youtube that she what it reminded me of). I kept feeling like I was going to pass out and eventually everything faded to black, but I didn't  pass out. When my vision returned it was mirrored, I could tell it was information from my right eye that was copied to my left eye, because of my location in my room. The wavy feeling and sound kept going on for a few more seconds and then eventually I hear a 'clap' and then everything went back to normal. I thought I may have just exaggerated or imagined some of this stuff so i took a but of time to think about what happened, and during this time  noticed that my right eye was hurting, I sat up and realized that it repositioned a bit and suddenly felt better. Lastly one of my ears was popped, normally that wouldn't be weird but my ears don't normally pop unless I'm on a plane or taking a shower or swimming. I know it sounds kind of far fetched but I can't explain the unnervingness and fear I feel right now, I know for a fact I won't be able to sleep until morning when I feel like I'm not alone. Also while I was writing this I  couldn't help but cry, my facial expression was normal. But I had tears going down the sides of my face.  Can someone please explain this to me so I can sleep without feeling dread looming.

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    Hi Kameron,

    You've very accurately described many of the symptoms of sleep paralysis (SP). I'm a former neuro nur se and have had SP for 50 years now, so I know a thing about it from both ends!

    First of all, this is not schizophrenia or any other kind of mental illness. It's a minor sleep disorder that happens to everyone once or twice in their lives, and to about 5% of the population on a regular basis. About half of these hallucinate during episodes. It may well be that yours was just a one-off attack.

    We're all paralysed during the dream phases of our sleep. And everyone dreams - it's just that most people don't remember their dreams when they wake. The brain secretes a hormone that paralyses our voluntary muscles during these periods (about three times a night) to stop us jumping up and acting out our dreams. But only our voluntary muscles are paralysed. The muscles of the autonomous system, that do things like breathing, keeping our heart going etc., are not affected by the paralysis. Sometimes things get out of sync and the brain continues secreting this hormone for a minute or two after we wake or, less commonly, it kicks in before we're completely asleep.

    Some people just have the paralysis. However, about half of those who get SP regularly have a whole range of hallucinations. Some of these occur during the period of waking paralysis, but some can happen before going to sleep or after waking fully, in a non-paralysed state. I'm in the latter category. I've probably experienced all possible combinations of SP hallucinations over the past 50 years.

    It's quite unusual to hit the jackpot in one's first episode of SP, but you seem to have done just that! You experienced most of the possible hallucinations your first time out. No wonder you were feeling so scared.

    I'll cover them in chronological order. First there was the hypnagogic hallucination. That's the one that occurs when you're still awake but settling to sleep. These are comparatively rare. I used to have them all the time when I was young - though less often these days. They usually consist of voices heard "in the mind's ear" as it were. I mainly hear what sounds like my own voice, but sometimes my mother's. They never say anything very significant, but usually enough to wake me fully, e.g.: "There's a spider in the bed", or "The house is on fire". That kind of thing. Sometimes, however, I hear beautiful music, which is much less worrying. I also sometimes see things in the mind's eye during this state - usually unpleasant. In my case these hypnagogic hallucinations are always a sign that I'm going to wake into SP at least once later in the night. However, they don't happen before all SP attacks.

    Then came the actual SP attack. You would have been asleep long enough to get into the REM (rapid eye movement) phase of sleep by then. (This is the phase in which we dream.) SP often starts with loud buzzing sounds, or even the sound of an explosion in your head. There can also be a sensation of extreme vibration, affecting the whole body. This can be accompanied or followed by hallucinations affecting any one of the senses - including even smell, though this is rare. I never had an olfactory hallucination but some people get them all the time. My father did. And yes - this condition tends to be hereditary, though it has to start somewhere, of course. These are often referred to as hypnopompic hallucinations, though some use the term for another type of hallucination on waking (which you didn't have but which I'll cover later, just in case).

    It's not uncommon to fall into a lucid (or waking) dream during SP. These can take many forms, but usually involve the room you're sleeping in. I was interested to hear that everything was reversed in your lucid dream. That's a known, but quite rare, feature of SP. Again, it's one I used to have all the time when I was young but I don't think I've had it happen for at least 20 years. Another common phenomenon is seeing your room the right way round but with something wrong with it, e.g. it's broad daylight when in fact you've woken in the night, or vice versa, or you can see snow out of the window in midsummer etc. Finally, there's the "false awakening" phenomenon, which is also a lucid dream. That's the rather annoying one where you really think you got out of bed, got washed, dressed, all kinds of stuff, then wake up to find yourself still in your bed. You were clearly having a lucid dream.

    I wouldn't worry too much about your eye hurting. It's not uncommon to feel pain in the eyes, or in the forehead between the eyes, during SP. This is because most of us sleep with our eyes crossed - strange as that may seem! Sometimes during the struggle to break out of the paralysis of SP, they cross even further and this can cause pain. You won't do yourself any harm though. I don't know what the ear popping was, but I suspect you might have been sleeping with one ear turned into the pillow. Everyone's ears pop occasionally, especially when we move on first waking and break a vacuum that's formed between our ear and the pillow.

    I'll finally touch on the other kind of hallucination associated with SP. You don't seem to have had it, but since you hit the jackpot this time there's a small chance you could have it on another occasion. The word "hypnopompic" is often used to describe this one too, but it's quite different to the hallucinations of paralysis, and much less scary. This one is purely visual, and happens when you wake from a perfectly normal sleep - not necessarily involving SP. I get these when I wake most mornings, and they started when I was a child, before actual SP. My father reported them too. They often take the form of complex geometric patterns superimposed on the whole room. Another common one is seeing miniaturised versions of everyday objects - often furniture or household articles. Very occasionally, these can take the form of human figures - which can be very alarming till you figure out they stay in the same visual field. (Misinterpretation of this type of hallucination is thought to account for a lot of so-called ghost sightings.) Yet another common one is a small, black swirly thing that to me always looks like a blow-up of a human thumb-print. This type of hallucination can persist for several minutes after waking, even after getting out of bed and going into the bathroom.

    I hope this has reassured you. Statistically, this is most likely to be a one-off experience. However, if it does start happening regularly there's a lot you can do to reduce the frequency and severity of attacks. This mainly involves identifying your triggers. This is a very individual thing but I can spot what may have triggered your attack, as I'm sure you can - all this game streaming in the small hours! Cleaning up your sleep act will go a long way to preventing further attacks, as will trying not to get too anxious. The latter is easier said than done, I know. I still remember my first SP attack at age 23. However, bear in mind that this phenomenon will never harm you. I'm still perfectly healthy and have all my marbles (I think!) after 50 years.

    If you want to ask any more questions, don't hesitate to post here again or send me a private message. Click on the envelope icon next to my name. PMs via this site don't cary viruses or expose the email address of either party.

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    PS: I just spotted the word "seizure" in your heading. This isn't a seizure either - full or partial. It's just a minor sleep disorder.

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      Thank-you so much lily, I had no idea that sleep paralysis had so many different effects on your surroundings and even brain itself. I forgot to mention that I have had sleep paralysis before where I imagined someone running at me or something or the like but I eventually learned to just close my eyes and ignore it however, this was the first time I had any of these other effects so I was under the impression that something more potent or chronic was in the works. I'm glad to hear that it's sleep paralysis and something that I can reduce significantly by just not staying up so late in the mornings.  I also really love understanding things around me so I can help myself or others if the symptoms start appearing for them. Once again thank-you very much and I really appreciate it!

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      Dear Kameron,

      It's a pleasure to meet a young person who understands SP and isn't giving way to irrational fears. I'm pleased to see that this is becoming more and more the norm, presumably because of the greater on-line availability of reliable information on the subject.

      When I started trying to help people in your position in the mid-90s (when internet availability was opening up to the general public) the situation was very different. Until then, the SP phenomenon had often been seen as "supernatural" - understandably perhaps. This belief was orchestrated by all sorts of tales of goulies and ghosties appearing on line.

      Unfortunately, the 1987 novel Communion, written by a horror writer (WS), mention of whose full name would probably get my post blocked, generated a whole new wave of alien abduction fears. I read the book, which the author claims is autobiographical, soon after it came out. I was blocked in a European airport for 12 hours by the traditional summer strike of the French air traffic controllers and couldn't find anything else in the bookshop. As soon as I got to the end of the first page I realised he was describing an SP attack. It was made into a pretty mediocre movie shortly afterwards. I once watched the first half-hour on TV before I lost the will to live and switched channels.

      This fear persisted till around the turn of the 21st century, when for a short time it was replaced by thoughts of demonic possession, at least in the US. This seems to have been generated by the upsurge in Christian fundamentalist beliefs at that time. I even found myself talking to youngsters who'd been put through exorcisms.

      Fortunately, we've now returned to a more logical, brain-based perception of this fascinating phenomenon!

      I think it's a good idea to try and get your "sleep hygiene" in order. You might want to think about whether you have other triggers too. My own main trigger is getting too warm in bed. Second in line is sleeping too much - especially late in the morning or taking afternoon naps (the latter being an occasional old-lady habit!) Both these are fairly common. However, some people have more attacks when they're sleep-deprived. Certain foods eaten late in the day can trigger some people, as can too much alcohol. Smoking cannabis is another well-known trigger, which may set off the condition in people who previously didn't know they had it. Once you've identified your own triggers, you can usually reduce the frequency of attacks to some extent.

      One thing I didn't mention in my earlier post is that many people who have SP are lucid dreamers - outside of the slightly disturbing lucid dreams experienced during SP episodes, that is. SP usually declines with age, and lucid dreaming even more so, which is one of my greatest regrets. Nothing compares with the sudden, heart-piercing realisation that you're in the middle of a dream. The universe is your oyster. You can go anywhere, do anything you want. I've also had a number of transcendent dreams in this state. I really mourn the demise of my lucid dreams!

      Given your revelations about earlier episodes of SP, I suspect you're going to be one of the 5% who get them on a regular basis, and probably one of the 2-3% who hallucinate during episodes. Incidentally, even those of us who do hallucinate don't always do so in every single SP episode. I'd estimate that I hallucinate in about two-thirds of mine. In any case, I'm glad to hear that your mind is now at rest and you'll soon learn to manage this very interesting condition.

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