Perimenopause or Anxiety or ???

OMG stressed2themax i was just thinking the same today. I've felt really good these last three days better than i've felt in the last two years but this afternoon the dizziness is back which like you brings on the sickness feeling.  I had planned on going to yoga and again i couldn't go cos i was feeling this way it spoils everything dosent it, i usually dont plan anything. I'm so sorry your dizziness is back its just not fair . I'm now telling myself tomorrow will be another day and i'll feel better and i hope you do too.  Try and relax, have a nice warm bubble bath and a good nights sleep, sending you a comforting enormous hug x

stressedtothemax

oh bless you hun, the dizzy spells are so awful, propranolol maybe wont help with dizzy feeling at all I am sorry to say, its a beta blocker so will help with aniety and panic but dizzyness i dont think it will help that, I could be wrong...

i know how you feel as had all this, infact I had a strange day myself, I went out and thought why is everything blur, I was thinking maybe the AC in car had dried my contact lenses, or my peri dry eyes was bad today, then hours later I realised I had put wrong lenses in, i have two different strengths and put the highest in both eyes by mistake, made me feel dizzy and i thought oh no back to this... give B6 a try see if it helps you, its worked wonders for me... 😀... Jay xx

hi anxiousface...

oh hun, you been bad too today, its so hard isnt it, when you feel like this, your just zapped of normal enthusiasm and energy... hows your anxious feelings, any better ? 

I hope you feel brighter tomorrow...

I am not too bad, ( apart from putting wrong lenses in eyes and forcing dizziness on myself) 😮

take care hun.... big hugs Jayxx

 

hi jayneejay, lovely to hear from you, i thought i was dizzy but you top it by putting the wrong lenses in making yourself feel dizzy (durrrr). Yes i agree with you i get on a high when i feel ok then the sightest twing and i'm back down agin zapped of normal enthusiasm as you say.  My anxiety is not too bad but i stay away from anything that makes me anxious.  I do having one think that will test me to see how my anxiety has changed as in July i have to attend Court as a witness as all i did was burn off a CCTV  CD at work for the police and now i have to appear so i'm really worried about that cos i have to go and believe me i've tried to get out of it without sucess so thats hanging over me. As you know i've started taking vitimin B12 and B6 last Thursday, I read somewhere you should only be taking 50mg a day of the B6 as it can cause tingling in long term use so i take it every other day as my other multi vits have 10mg in.  What do you think jay? As i said in my post a few mins ago i'v felt better these last few days than i have done for 2yrs except for this afternoon when i'v gone dizzy. Do you think the vits B12 & B6 are working already?  I'm so glad your feeling better in yourself obviously when you put your right lenses in, its been such a long road for you and you've been through so much but what would we do without your experiences and knowledge, your so much better than my GP's they just havent a clue about perimenopause and just dont want to know. sending you a lovely hug x take care too.

Hi Anxious Face..

dont worry about the court sweetie, its not you on trial... your the witness so to speak, all the same I expect it will be on your mind, but after you will say to yourself, why did I worry about it.. ( honest) 

B6 .... I dont know where you read the info you have..

but for peri menopause or menopause a lady needs from 100mg to 300mg daily depending on severity..

I have taken 150mg then 300mg daily and I am still standing 😃 more so than ever.. I think you need at least 100mg for it to benefit you during peri, and abit more in last part and full meno.. ...

B12 is good too these are the two B's peri ladies need the most for making energy etc etc etc.. 

two other ladies on here have said the B6 has improved them even after 4 days, so a good week to two will be the tester.. but i would take at least 100mg of B6.. take early in morning too, so your energy is for the day and not while your sleeping.. so to speak..

I found that the B6 150mg that i took for first month seemed to work really quick and I have lost half a stone too... 😀 

it helps no end, you may still get the blip day but its nothing compared to everyday ... I am a different person, I get in car and off I go, and go out twice a week at night and chatter to people, before i didnt want to see anyone, I was becoming a recluse... ( not good) but now I feel great...

let me know how you get on with the b6 as I have been researching this for a while and love to know how you get on...

Jay xxx 

 

hi again..

just a reminder snippet.. I have gone on this info and it works for me 😃

During menopause, mood swings are inevitable with estrogen fluctuations as the body ends its reproductive years. Vitamin B6 may be one answer to alleviating increased agitation, depression and anger. B vitamins are responsible for mood stabilization by controlling hormone production in the brain and regulating hormone levels.

*B6 declines as menopause sets in and mood swings become evident. Increasing this vitamin may give women the added boost they need to enjoy the golden years with a better mindset.

Supplementation

Supplementing with vitamin B6 is also a good option during menopause and can provide more rapid relief than diet alone. To avoid an imbalance that can result when one vitamin becomes deficient,  Doses of 50 to 100 milligrams per day help promote general health and wellness. However, during the stress of menopause, your requirements for B6 may increase to as much as 300 milligrams per day, says Lieberman.

Jay xx  

thanks jay i'll try and locate where i read it and let you know. i'll take the B6 every day from now and see how i go. i want to be a different person too.  i cant remember going out in the evening that would scare me right now and socialising with people.  your an insperation to us all. lots of love x 

 

Hi anxiousface..

B6 i would deffo take daily or it wont kick in, it needs to be daily and in morning... give it a good try I think it will improve the way you feel..

try 100mg a day for starters... nothing to lose... i have taken 300mg daily and no tingles ... body needs it hun... like I say years ago maybe 9 years ago when I  first started peri, my doc gave me strong B6 on prescription.. so have a try and dont worry... we lack it big time... 😀  i have gone back to 150mg now I halve mine as they are Benerva 300mg and I felt good on just 150mg ... Jay xx

want you to feel better ... 😬

 

Hi ladies, I do follow your chats with great interest and have got some help from reading all your advice. I'm definitely getting myself some B6 but I also read about taking too much could cause tingling and numbness. Here is the link http://www.wholehealthchicago.com/757/vitamin-b6/ it's a really good read and it's good for everything. Take care ladies and keep chatting.

Hi nanadotty

how are you doing..

thanks for the link... very good..

have to smile... numbness if taking 2000mg... 😮 oh my lord...

dont think I will be taking that much... very good link.. thanks very much

Jayxx

Hey jay I hate to be a pain but do you take all your b 6at one time or do you space doses out thru day?I tried one in morning and one at night but then i cant sleep...any advice would b great... thank you very much.

Hi Laurie

I take 150mg in the morning of vit B6 in one go, ( my tabs are 300mg but I split them in half)    how much are you taking if your taking it morning and night ?

best to take when you get up so you feel the benefits during the day I would say... 

not heard they affect sleep, but peri can make you have sleepless nights ..

Jay xx

Hi Jay...I was taking 100mgs in morning and still feeling a little crappy so i thought i would try another pill before bed to see if it helped but just seems when i take it at night i cant sleep..maybe its just all in my head...i will try 150 in mornings and see if that helps...thinking about magnesium to..i have felt pretty good as far as brainf og but i still get that heavy muscle feeling and i know anxiety is alot better but it still sneaks up at times..not bad just know its there..and pressure in my head and a couple migraines..but let me tell ya i feel the dif since starting b6...thanks so much

Hi Laurie..

yes I would certainly just take B6 in the morning, not at night, see how that goes for you, I restarted magnesium as the only thing I was getting was day time hot flushes .. which had stopped for years... and its only a few days I have restarted magnesium but the day flushes are soooo much better now... 

I didnt even realise that changing from Magnesium and calcium mix to Calcium and D3 mix ( Natecal) would have any funny effects... but then I twigged after many weeks that the only thing I had changed was I was not taking magnesium, then after a google I see magnesium helps alot with flushes, so, hopefully that will be relieved abit now. couldnt believe they returned with such severity having 6 to 12 a day 😮..

I am in year nine of peri and had no period since Aug 2013, but as you mention headaches, I got some rotters in 2012 /2013  and always before a period came, that was a new type of headache for me, awful, migraine etc, lasting 4 days and nights solid pain, all hormonal related but thank goodness thats passed now,.. glad the B6 is helping and I know its changed my live and thoughts etc, I am 50 next week and so pleased I can enjoy life again.

good luck Laurie ... Jay xx

Thanks Jay...do you think magnesuim  will help me with headaches any or should i just up my b6 and see what that does first?sorry so many questions but you seem to have alot of this figured out...thank so much

Hi Laurie..

 I dont think magnesium will help hormonal headaches... they didnt for me.. 

and for the B6 i wouldnt take too much .. stick to 100mg - 150mg daily see how you get on... ( well thats what I would do) and take when you get up ..

I dont take HRT I do the Vits and natural route.. been taking Estroven Max for years but when I have finished these, as been on them for years, I shall have a change to Menapol Plus ( natural) .. I dont remember your age or how long you have been in peri for Laurie..

my experience with the blasting headaches is they seem to come just before a period came, and I  had two episodes in 2013 as well as feeling bery sick aswell, and only two periods, so maybe the heads get worse as you near menopause final.. thats what seems to happen to me.. but headaches I dont get now as dont have a period.. ( not for 10 months) ..... I get the odd vague headache as we all do but not these rotters I got before a period last year and year before.

I just took a paracetomal for headaches last year or a ibuprofen... 😕

I also take Maca, B6, Natecal ( Vit D3 & Calcium) B1 but I take B1 mainly to keep mozzys off me as it stops them biting you, and magnesium again.. and an iron tab every other day now.. also have B12 for energy ... 

think thats it ... Jay xx

Hi Jay

I got prescribed B6 from gp 100mg per day, will let you know how it goes.  I have had the day from hell, left doctors in tears and cried ever since!  Got up this morning flet so light headed, sweating and weak, vision was like when you bend over and get up too quick, I only started to feel better about 2 hours laterI after eating a banana and then somthing with little bit sugar in. I mentioned all this to him, saying I felt it was like either low blood pressure or blood sugar, his reply was 'well both fine'  I was like errrrm that was 6 months ago, anyway he took bp which was fine and booked me for a blood test  tomorrow to check for diabetes, I am sure this was just to shut me up.  I also said I felt the light headedness was worse since starting the mirtazapine, he agreed it could be that or it could be menopause.  He said so what do you want then, a change of antidepressants or HRT, something called premique (anyone taken this?)  I said what about B6, I have heard that's good, again he agreed I could have that, but not with the HRT.  Like you I would really rather try the natural route, I must admit my diet isn't the best, I have been bingeing on chocolate a lot lately and I wonder if that is making me worse, the mirtazapine not helping with that as it causes cravings!

Googled the type of HRT he wanted me to take, and side effects include anxiety and depression!  Oh and it's more for postmeno women.  Also the other antidpressants he wanted to prescribe were SSRI's which I am sensitive to!  I often wonder if they read our notes!  I also asked him what bio identical hormones were, as I suspected he didn't have a clue!

Sorry for waffling.  Hope you are well xxx

Sorry to hear you've been feeling so rubbish😞 I've not had the best week either. I really hope the b6 works for you. Let me know how you get on. I'd be interested to hear how it goes. Sending you lots of positive thoughts. Xxx

Hi Cheekygal

oh bless you... glad he gave you some B6 though, take in morning daily..

as for bio dentical hormones. personally I think they are more high risk than HRT ... 

are they safer ?

No, they aren't. The term "bioidentical" means the hormones in the product are chemically identical to those your body produces. In fact, they are — but so are the hormones used in many FDA-approved hormone replacement products.

According to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and several medical specialty groups, bioidentical hormones may be riskier than are hormones used in standard hormone therapy, and there's no evidence they're any more effective.

Marketers of bioidentical hormones say their products have these advantages over standard hormone therapy:

so the decision is down to the patient I suppose, but not a decison for me personally I wouldnt touch either..... I want no risk at all... natural way if possible.

as for your blood sugar, I too crave chocolate, but... I am still losing weight, but I am exercising daily now and never sit down and B6 can assist weight loss in some people...  in 2011 I had a fasting blood sugar blood test and it came back borderline type2 but I am fine now it was peri and all that going on, I am not overweight at all, but... you do need to think about your diet abit if its poor, you need to put some good things in your body to feel good back..

hope you get on okay today ... Jay xx

Hi Cheekygal,

So sorry to hear that you are still not feeling good. I am currently on Elleste Duet HRT and nearing finishing my 3rd packet (3 months) and have continued to take my Busy B vitamins which has an all rounder of B vits - 100mg  and have now added B6 only 100mg to bring up my daily allowance to 200mg and are feeling good. When I last spoke to my GP I did tell her what I was taking along side the HRT and she said it was fine. I have found an extract as you started to worry me when you said your GP didnt advise it when taking HRT. Take Care xxx

 Hormone replacement therapy helps lessen menopausal symptoms through prescription or natural means. Some women prefer a holistic approach to restoring estrogen while others take prescribed synthetic estrogen replacement pills. No matter what your preference, taking B6 and other B vitamins is safe when using HRT. Speak with your physician before starting any supplement. Keeping your doctor informed will help manage treatment effectively. B vitamins such as B6 may actually help HRT by assisting absorption through the bloodstream.

hello cheekgal so sorry to read your feeling so bad, i too have symptoms like yours. After going through every test known to man since started to feel ill in 2012 it was discovered im hypoglycemic ( low blood sugar) and already have low blood pressure that kept dipping which was the reason i was feeling faint daily.  I have to eat something every 3hrs and i can tell if im late eating i go tingly and get brain fog. I'm am trying to go through this perimenopause naturally and just take my vitimins. My GP has absolutey no interest and time for me so i'm having to go it alone accept for all the advice on this forum.  Try eat small and often and see how you feel.  I too have felt like crying all day today i'v had a really bad day at work today i don't know how i got through it and what tomorrow will bring, my brain fog is getting worse and i have a responsible job. I have meetings tomorrow with all men(grrrrrrrrr), i will most likely be staring into space not able to take in what their saying and wont remember anything.

Oh dear whats happening to us????? i didn't expect this and as i said my GP's useless.  I hope you get some answers from your bloodtest and feel better than you do soon. take care, sending you a comforting hug x