Perimenopause or Anxiety or ???

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Hi everyone,

I recently joined this, my first ever forum, in the hope of gaining knowledge and sharing experiences on the strange symptoms I have been experiencing the last few weeks.

My first post focused on Anxiety and the possibility of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. It has recently been brought to my attention, there is a possibility my symptoms could be hormone related. Something I never actually considered.

Brief list of symptoms...

Fatigue (groggy and heavy type tiredness)

Brain Fog

Feeling detached and 'spaced out'

Weak and Shaky

Jelly Legs

Weak Fingers and Toes

Sensitive to light and sound

Sometimes feels like I have flu or a bad virus (even though I know I don't)

Light Headed

Light Dizziness

Easily tired out

Occasional Palpitations

Frequent urination (occasionally)

Anxious (more so than usual)

Brief History...

I have had anxiety issues, on and off, for many years and also hormone induced migraines. This year the migraines are definitely worse and so too is the anxiety. I had an 8 day brutal migraine early/mid September, followed by 8 days of severe brain fog/dull fuzzy head. I haven't been the same since. I'm also wondering if my symptoms are migraine related? I've had 2 full blood tests done and 2 urine samples taken. All came back normal/clear and healthy. I've also been to see an ENT consultant who ruled out an inner ear virus. He also checked my throat and balance. I had a full eye examination last week and my eyes are in great shape. I have an MRI booked next week and also an appointment to get an ECG recorder fitted for 48 hours.

My symptoms are so broad and general, it could be a number of things... I have even considered CFS. Now I'm thinking it could be hormone related? I feel more anxious not knowing what this is!

Is anybody experiencing anything similar?

Any replies/advice would be greatly appreciated x

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    Camper, I have three boys too, and I too am trying to raise them to be compassionate, understanding and evolved young men. smile I did say "trying," an awful lot of burping, farting and potty jokes seem to sneak in there regardless! :p

    I too get the lightheadedness. It feels very, very hormone-related as it is just like the lightheadedness I have always gotten starting about two days before my period. The difference is that now it just comes on, even if a period doesn't result. So yes, I think this is a very common thing. I have heard an awful lot of peri women mention it.

  • Posted

    And by the way, here's something weird, crazy and perhaps something none of you ever wanted to know, LOL...

    But here goes...

    I CAN NOT STAND my smell any more. I don't smell "bad", but...I just can't explain it. I smell...different. Yeaughhhhh. I am clean, very clean. It's just almost a foreign or new smell to me. I had something very similar when I was pregnant. I could "smell" myself when nobody else could. I'm talking about my skin, etc., I'm not getting gross here or anything.

    For me, I definitely know that's related to hormones, due to my pregnancy experience of it. I know for sure I am not pregnant, by the way. wink

    So just another weirdness...I feel like with peri, I'm having to introduce myself to my body all over again. It's like a warped form of puberty. :p

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    Californiamel- i can relate to the pregnancy issues, i have been feeling so ill since dec 13 had so many tests ecg, bloods, ct scan all showing nothing except b12 a little low,but everytime i finish my period which was always on time but now 4/5 days late, i feel sick cant eat anything and smells of certain foods just make me heave ! Just like when i was pregnant, my doc has only done one blood test for menopause which came back " normal" but after researching perimenopause i notice you need several tests at different times, i am back at docs fri i will be asking to be seen by a specialist, i cannot go on not knowing whats wrong, the anxiety attacks that i have suffered for many years have become uncontrollable striking at any time to the point i do not go out of the house alone or much in company for fear of having one
  • Posted

    Countrylass, good luck with your doctor's appointment on Friday! Please let us know how it goes. I hope you get some answers.
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    Hello everyone, how comforting to find a site like this to read what others are also experiencing and to know that we are not alone. I am nearly 51 and my weird feelings or worries started Nov 12, when a friend of mine was diagnosed with throat cancer(same age as me) I scanned every website to find details about this

    when one day I started to have this feeling of a lumpy throat, well I then convinced myself that I had the same! so I went to the GP and he checked me over etc and said that it was acid reflux and anxiety. Then in the Jan I missed my period, it was due on the 17th but on the 25th I woke up feeling really low and that morning and when I passed stools I had a bleed. Well I was beside myself with fear that it was cancer, went to the GP and she checked me over and was happy and sent me away.

    For the next two weeks I loss my appetite and didn't want to see anyone during this time so I just sat and worried myself sick that there was something more sinister going on so I booked myself a complete health check at a Bupa hospital which covers comprehensive bloods and heart and lungs etc. I was told that all was ok, so started to feel more at ease. My period came on the 7th Feb and my mood lifted and I began to feel back to my normal bubbly confident self. My periods there after came each month and I didn't experience any PMS at any time, until June 10th when I started to feel really low again and the worrying kicked in again, I had this really weird feeling that something inside didn't feel right, and again couldn't see anyone and sat and worried myself, kept crying for feeling this way.

    Again once my period finally arrived, I felt my happy self again. Within two weeks this brewed up again. A friend told me about serenity cream that you could buy from wellsprings and it is a natural Progestrone cream which you rub in on fatty and thinned areas morning and bedtime. This has now given me more regular periods and I was fine until Nov when my cycle went slightly out of balance as I came on at 21 days. Since all of the above began my worrying has gone on overdrive and when I feel out of source I seem to fear the worst ie cancer again! I never used to sit and worry about things to this degree prior to Nov 12. I had a mammogram and had my hormone levels checked and even had a blood test re ovarian cancer, all came back as normal.

    Why is it that some of us experience such worrying issues and others just do not sit and panic about things but just get on with their lives and believe it will pass? Since last year I some times wake up feeling sick and also my sinus do flare up in the mornings and what with feeling of catarrh in my throat this also makes me feel sick. Recently I do not seem to be able to eat Pork or have things like fish and chips because of thegreasiness (things which I have always enjoyed before) I do not fry any foods and either bake or grill, eatvegetables but not fruit, enjoy a glass of wine and nibbles.

    But on the whole I think I eat well, balance between fish and meat. This week I went to the GP because of this feeling of wanting or being sick with pork etc and also mentioned the sinus issue aswell. She said to me that the hormone changes and anxiety and the sinus could cause the nausea feeling and said brought on by acid reflux they were all connected so prescribed me with omeprazole.

    I was prescribed with HRT back in Jan which I have bought but not started yet but am seriously thinking of starting them when my period arrives (due today onwards). The GP said that this will balance my hormones and in turn hopefully bring things back to some sort of normality.

    On looking back my anxiety blips only seem to occur when either I have missed a period or they become shorter ie 15 days or even 21 day cycles. I have also tried acupuncture to relax me, also reflexology and have even had reiki. I think this particular cycle may even be out of balance as I have started worrying myselfagain about my health. I have always been such a positive and confident person so am really struggling tounderstand these worrying thoughts. How can someone change so much? Thank you for listening to me and most importantly for understanding these strange feelings of worry etc. Have any of you experience these things? I brought a Ladycare magnet to see this would help, not so sure though, but I have started usingcoconut oil for cooking to see if this will help with my tummy issues. I take starflower, Vit B complex, Menapol plus to see if any things will help. I have a lovely hubby who is being supportive and also a lovely friend is going through the peri but not suffering like we all seem to be, but she is really lovely at putting my mind at rest. Joy xxx

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    Hi snatchpiece, sorry to hear that you to are suffering, i can relate to so many of your issues, every month i dread my period because i know the week after i am going to be so emotional have no appetite and have hightened anxiety,my doctor is now coming round to the idea that my anxiety issues are hormone related but still her only answer is antidepressants which is a route i do not want to take,i hope you are feeling better very soon and remember you are not alone there are lots of us suffering the same symptoms.
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    Hi ladies , such a lovely supportive positive group! Thank you CaliforniaMel for your advice I have been doing lots of reading about me problems which I explained earlier and every time I put the symptoms in it comes up with fibroids and cervical cancer I never said that I had recently had to be given more pain relief for severe lower back pain because I didn't think it relevant until I started researching my symptoms . I am concerned but am staying calm and waiting for a scan appointment . I'm already disabled with 2 other long term illnesses so I need to get sorted ASAP . I believe in positive thought and healing prayer , just reading about you all and feeling we are all there for one another is so uplifting good luck to you all keep smiling through x
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    Rattler, please don't go thinking the 'C word'! The majority of fibroids AREN'T cancer. Googling symptoms is terrifying, LOL. I've Googled myself into all-night insomnia staring at the ceiling and planning who will raise my children after the dirt has been thrown over my coffin based on Google health searches.

    And even given how few fibroids turn out to be cancer, it may not even be fibroids.

    I am thinking of you! I am happy to send a little prayer your way.

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    Hello everyone i've only just found this site and am glad i have , i understand how you are feeling i've been

    feeling the same now for about 3 years with really bad anxiety aswel as all the other symptoms been back

    and forth to the doctors and have been told lots of different things, but am convinced its my hormones

    making me feel so unwell daily. i had my hormone levels checked and was told they up and down.

    could it be that i'm perimenopausal or just anxiety.

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    Thank you I've been reading the comments past few days and stopped me thinking about my problems it just makes us feel we aren't alone doesn't it, Tammy I'm sure you will get lots of help off everyone just a thought if the doctors read these comments now and again maybe they could diagnose the menopause etc a little better . I try to remind my daughters a GP , no matter how supportive usually know a little about a lot of illnesses and that's why we have the specialists , I know I'm guilty of forgetting that myself sometimes when I go to my GP and hope he can tell me why something is happening . Hope that makes sense x
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    Snatch - I'm afraid you may have to cut out fatty foods, I'm the same. It'll do you good anyway - just look at it as adjusting your diet to suit you better. Peppermint tea helps settle tums.

    After 2 family members died within months of each other, both from cancer, every single family member, one after the other, became convinced that they had cancer too. I call it hysterical hypochondria - you're more acutely aware of how dangerous and fragile life is, we all get frightened. It will pass. You can focus instead on the remarkable resilience and beauty of life, from every dewdrop filled lupin leaf to the smell of apple blossom in May. Sometimes you face the worst thing you could imagine and find strength.

    Bad news finds you quick enough, why waste time worrying?

    Stand outside in the rain, close your eyes and feel the sun on your skin, swim in the sea.

    Write all your thoughts down, set fire to the paper or throw it away on a wave.

    Read.

    You've been busy, living your life, and nature is now rudely asserting itself and you're frightened at what's happening to you, and that's complicated by what's happening to your friend. You're going to be ok again one day and throat cancer is survivable - we lost 2 family members to cancer but the one with aggressive throat cancer survived.

    I'm really sorry you're in a bad place now but have faith, it will pass.

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    Thank you to each and everyone of you for your lovely replies especially the one from Gilly who passed onsuch honest and positive advice on how the key to all our issues is live life to the full and don't sit and worry what if but probably won't happen! I am sat here thinking what great advice as you are right that bad

    News will find us soon enough!.

    I have just come back from visiting a really lovely friend who I haven't seen in a long while, she asked if I had started taking the HRT and I replied not yet, the reason she asked this was because I looked more like myNormal bubbly self, and in return I said to her it was because of her!! She is a very dear friend in which we both helped each other through our divorces 16 years ago and were each other's rock! What I am trying to say that your friends are the ones who don't judge you and always want you to be really happy and will always be there for you in good and bad times! Tonight I walked into her home and she gave me a lovely big hug and I suddenly felt all of worries lift away.

    So my goal to myself is to make more time for my lovely friends, mine was a real tonic to me tonight!! And truly didn't realise how much I had missed seeing her! Thank you once again for all of your support and together we shall beat this and when we believe that we are not a lone fighting this difficult time of lives andthere will be a massive big light at the end of the tunnel for us allXxx

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    Tammy hello, I would truly believe it's got to do with your hormones, I have never experience anxiety until Nov 2012 and only now really experience these doom and gloom feelings when my periods are either late orirregular. All the other times I truly feel like my old self. I have recently found two lovely female GPs who have listened to me and not offered to send me to an anxiety counsellor or put me on anti dispersants but prescribed the lowest HRT to help balance my hormones out. I will keep you in formed on how i feel once Istart taking them and if they will really balance things out for me! My fingers and my toes are already crossed! Xx
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      Dear snarchpiece, I've been following these menopause forums now for a few months and they have really helped stop me from losing the plot. When I read your first post with all your symptoms it was like reading my own profile. I'm 53 next week and a few months back I had a blood test that confirmed I had no estrogene so I take it I'm in full blown menopause. I've been coping quiet well and have a very understanding husband who has been really patient with me. The last few month have definitely been the worst so far. The anxiety and migraines have stoped me in my tracks and some days I just can't function. I was so ill last weeks I've made an appointment to see my GP The thing I can think to say to her is HELP. She is a really nice GP and never ever has she tried to give me anything I don't want, the decision has always been mine about taking any medication, wether it be hrt or antidepressants. So when I read you had been prescribed a really low dose of HRT i was really interested. I've got an appointment tomorrow and I really wound like to know how you are getting on with your HRT. I hope you don't mind me asking. I would really like your advice. I do feel like there is light at the end of this really long and horible tunnel. I look forward to hearing from you. X
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      Hi Nanadotty..

      hope you get sorted ... i am in year nine of Peri, i am aged 49..

      last period was Aug 13 this is the longest time I have been since last period, i feel okay, I dont have HRT as cannot have it due to family history etc.. I do take natural remedies and B6 has helped no end... 

      I seem to find that each month instead of a cycle i get anxious and abit emotional and achey just for 5 days then its gone..

      BUT ... these last two days, during the day I have been excessively hot, i mean wet through, during the day, its very warm in Spain, so didnt think too much about it, but this evening I went out with my son, and said I was boiling and he wasnt, and i can feel my face heating up and becoming sweaty sticky to the point of blotting it with kitchen roll, the heat gets my whole body, legs, arms like waves, its so odd, its happening again now... good grief, anyone else had severe day sweats, my bra and tee shirt is stuck to me and its so awful, i am clammy and sticking to leather sofa 

      Jay 😪

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      Hello Nanadotty, I am on my second packet and to be honest even though I had a funny start because my period lasted for 15 days which was really unusual for me I must say this is the best I have felt since Nov 12. My GP has been really lovely who suggested HRT over anything else as she believed me in thinking my anxiety was hormonal related and not once did she suggest antidepressants.  I had all my health checks last year and a  Mammogram , but one thing that gave me the confidence to start using HRT was knowing that you will be continually monitored. I am On my 2nd packet and I have had a period which only lasted for 4 days and didn't bring any heaviness or clots or headaches or even backache. The worst I felt was a day or so before feeling more tired. I have been really lucky in as much I really haven't had any side effects and if things continue this way then I can honestly say it's the best decision I have made. So many of my close friends have said how well I look and they say that the old Joy is back!! I still take my B vitamins and starflower tablets every day and multivitamins. I also know another lady who took them for at least 7 years and also said it was the best thing that she had chosen to do to give her life back! Good luck with your decision as it took me a few visits to get a GP who would be supportive and emphasise with what I was feeling and believing that this wasn't the real Joy. If you need any other help then please do not hesitate to get back in touch. Massive hugs to you Nanadotty and I am you will make the right decision for you. Xxxx
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      Hi again, my visit to the doctor went well, when I arrived the waiting room was very full so i thought my visit would fast but she really listened to every thing I had to say. I have kept a migraine diary for two month and she took the time to look over it and agreed I shouldn't have to deal with the amount of migraine I had been having. Because I'm not have hot flushes anymore ( that wonderful phase of menopause was last year ) HRT was not going to help with my migraine. So she has given me a beta blocker 'atenolol' to try for a month she also said it will help with my anxiety and tention which is a bonus. She also noticed how dry my skin is, it's really flaky on my arms and my shins are really sore right now, I think I must scratch them in my sleep, so I've now got some shower gel and cream for my skin. I'm going back to see her in a months time just to see how I'm getting on. I felt she really listened and did care how I was. Just knowing she took the time to listened and she was the one who made my next appointment makes me feel like she's there if I need to ask her anything. She's 46 and is more than likely going through all this malarkey herself.

      I'll keep you updated to let you know how it's going if that's ok. Take care. X

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      Hi. Glad to hear you are getting some support. I have had the dry shins too. So itchy and in the past I have scratched them so much I've made them bleed. I also get awful headaches and have done for a while now. This and nerve pain in my face head. Let us know how you get on with the beta blockers as it is something my dr mentioned to me. I am currently coming off my amitriptyline - what joy !so will see in a month what the true state of my symptoms are.what sort of cream do you have for your legs?
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      Hi, I came off amytriptyline last year because it wasn't working for my headaches, it is a great little pill and I had been taking it for about three years. It took about three or four weeks to come off it and the worsted thing was the dizzyness but I took travel sickness tablets to deal with that, they seemed to work. The amytriptyline also had helped me with IBS which looking back now was probable just another symptom of the menopause. I was working full time back then and really, just got on with my life. Now I have a lot of time because I'm not working I think a lot of my problems are I over think everything and I'm always dwelling on my problems. The cream I got was called Diprobase and the shower cream is dermol 200. I've taken my second beta blocker today and there doesn't seem to be any side effects (yet). I'm not sure how soon it will take to make a difference. 

      I really need to stop looking for problems, I'm my own worst nightmare.

      ill keep you informed to how it's going. X

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