PIP ASSESSMENT

Hi Toni well i have heard so many things people are saying they put information on there computers about people doing things or saying things and it actually has not happened. When people have asked for a copy of there reports to appeal they see exactly what has been said and the amount of lies they tell is the reason why so many people are being not awarded what they should. Infact there are many people on this forum that have had this happen to them. Also as far as contacting your GP they don't bother that is up to the claimant to provide evidence and in a lot of cases they don't even look at it anyway ! I am under no illusions that my home assesment will be stress free but i will be fully prepared and i will not be sitting back if they try and lie and twist what i have told them. To many people are to stressed and traumatised to go through the appeal process however i will fight them tooth and nail if need be. Fingers crossed hopefully it will not come to that

Dont no were that came from as they contacted my doctor which is why i got awarded it and from personal experience home visit dont always go well i had one few years back for a different benefit and i got accused of lying. this time as i claimed for pip instead i opped to go to them and the lady i saw got to see for her self how much pain going anywhere puts me in think the facted when she asked me to stand up from a sitting position and my hip gave way on me kind of helped as she got see to whats it like every day for me. But anyways i hope yours goes well gl

Hi Toni. It's nothing to do with what vying doctor says. I had been diagnosed with MS and it effects me in various ways. The assessor lied and took it upon herself to say I could do things I can't. Reason for putting in MR and mum sent a letter saying the assessor lied as she was with me. They are doing it so the DWP can stop making payments.

Mark

Hello Michelle, I admire your tenacity. When I was reading the report from the assessor I thought that it must be about someone else. If the report did not have my name at the top I would of thought, who is this about.

Hi mary thank you it is not so much tenacity more anger and rage lol. All the things i have read over the last few days have made me so mad !! I myself was nervous about my upcoming home visit. However i am no longer worried not for me anyway but for the person who does my report. I would love for them to lie. As Clint Eastwood said GO AHEAD PUNK MAKE MY DAY

Michelle, You are the light at the end of the tunnel. x

Thanks Chris for confirming what i said. It is discusting that they can get away with this ! I hope you win your appeal and maybe you should consider pressing charges. I think it is time to take a stand and make an example out of someone. Hopefully this will make them think twice about the disgusting and slanderous things they write !!!

Even tho I'm going to appeal I've still contacted them again just to make them aware of my under active thyroid so they can increase my award or leave it as it is, or even remove , which they can not do, so what ever there out come I can then use it in tribunal, also I've just had Esa f2f and got full points in both mobility and care and put in support group, the doctor that assessed me was disgusted with atos and he has given me his report to use against atos in tribunal

That's great news Chris. Use it. I was put into ESA support group 3 years ago and mine will be up for review soon. Although i did not see the original report i must have scored highly to be put in it in the first place. I am worse health wise than i was 3 yrs ago so i should not have any problems but you just do not know with these clowns !

I'm just glad I can prove there lies, and I have two completely different reports for same conditions from two different benefits and assessor

 Let us know Chris how it goes. Make sure you tell them about the reports lets see them squirm and worm their way out lol . Just tell them the truth needs no explanation !!

I will broad cast it to all

Hi Chris,

Just so you know unless the condition was reported to them at the assessment you can not use this in the Tribunal hearing. Only the things you were assessed on can be used.

Hi this is why I'm telling them about new condition to give them the chance to reconsider new illness maybe they up my award, then if they don't I will mention it in tribunal as them being notified of new illness, as they state in form that we must inform them if conditions improve or deteriate so I have

Is this a new condition or a new diagnosis?  If the condition was possibly there and affecting you when you were assessed first time round but you weren't diagnosed at the time then you can use it.  If you're sure it wasn't there then you can't use it but as you say the new assessment could be useful in other areas.  The only problem I can see is if the tribunal give you higher PIP than your next assessment as I believe the tribunal will now only be considering the time from your first assessment to the second assessment instead of for a longer period.  Fingers crossed that won't be a problem though, hopefully both results will be accurate and fair.

Hi scally it's a new diagnotice it's under active thyroid so it was probally already there but did not know about it, now because I've informed them of it they sent me another form to fill in

As they've sent you another form to fill in this could well interfere with your Tribunal. Reporting changes a claimant will always recieve a new form to fill in and the process will start all over again.

Don't say that Denise , this is going to be the death of me

I wouldn't say it if it wasn't true, let me see if i can find out some info for you. When i do i'll report back.

Have you already got a PIP award that your challenging?

Ok as I'm only reporting new diagnosis, and new medication, my other illnesses are still the same , I don't know how long this thyroudbhas been brewing but only just been told

Yes I was in high mobility and middle care dla, I had pip f2f and was only awarded standard mobility so I've had mr and now awaiting tribunal

I'm only doing what pip say we must do, by law and that's yo notify them if any conditions that are new or better

Yes i realise that but you're already challenging the original decision and are awaiting an Appeal Tribunal, this is completely different. DWP may very well send you for another assessment because you reported those changes. In all honesty i really wouldn't have done that but it's done now and there's nothing you can do but fill in that form and return it. As i said earlier though it may well interfere with the Tribunal. I did read something about this some time ago but now i can't find it.

No matter what I don't think they can take standard mobility away from me as they give it me for 10 years, so hypothyroidism added to copd and emphysema must make it worse, so this way they have chance to redeem them selves or again go back to tribunal, in up the wall because everyone says different

You're wrong on that one i'm afraid. Just because they awarded it to you for 10 years doesn't mean they can't take it away from you. You reported those changes so now they can either increase, award you the same or even stop it completely. As i said before reporting those changes will mean you've now got to start the whole process again. It may actually be worth ringing the Tribunal to tell them you've reported the changes and see what they say.

I'll let my welfare right know as they representing me in tribunal, but yes I will ring tribunal and see what they have to say, maybe I will have to start again but can I not still go to trybunal for arrears

No, i'm fairly certain that reporting those changes you "shot yourself in the foot" so to speak. I don't know of anyone that would do that when they're already waiting for a tribunal. If the Tribunal hadn't of awarded you in your favour then you could have reported changes to start the process again

Yes I understand but if I went to tribunal and win then reported new illness pip would ask when you had it from, then why you not report it in January when you contacted it, so either way then bar stewards always win

No they wouldn't have. You are waiting for a Tribunal so reporting any changes doesn't make any sense to me when you could have gone to this Tribunal and been awarded Enhanced in both. When i had my PIP review last August i put on the form that my mobility had got worse 8 months previously. I went for another assessment, then i got a call from the decision maker 4 days after assessment asking me to confirm when my condition got worse. I said "8 months ago" he said ok thank you. I was awarded Enhanced mobility and nothing at all was said about not reporting those changes. Don't beleive anything DWP tell you because when reporting wosening of condition it's always risky because you could lose everything you already have.

Well it's done now , a learning process for everyone I'll keep you all informed of our cone

Goodluck!

Hi Denise15811, I went to tribunal last year and won enhanced on both. DWP wanted me to fill in form after I had heart attack the charity helping me advised me not to fill form as I was going to tribunal and you can tell the judge and take more evidence.. That's what I did. Good luck and don't give up

It wasn't me that reported any changes while waiting for Tribunal it's Chris. He actually reported the changes so he has to fill in that form and return it.

Hi Micheal I'm waiting for appeal but I've just been diagnosed hyperthyroidism and just notified pip of additional medication, and they send me a new pip form to fill in, do you advise me to ignore it

Hi chris251254 I hope you're ok? I can't advise you but u should try lesiusx its a benefit charity phone and ask for advice. Hope this helps I do have telephone number , would have to P/M you. Michael

Yes please forward number

Do not ignore that form because you reported a change in condition so you have to fill it in and return it. If you don't then you risk your current PIP award stopping.

I've already sent in my doctors note confirming new illness, I could just ignor and say I've not received form, or say I've sent it, a little lie might put things right, as they win when they lie

Lie? why would you do that and risk losing your PIP? Lying doesn't get you anywhere, it only makes the situation 100 times worse! I can't advice you any further than to fill that form in and return it because you really do risk losing your PIP award...