PIP - Broken me
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I am an absolute wreck!
My pip assessment 2 weeks ago was cancelled 30 minutes before my appointment which was an absolute ordeal as I had spent the whole day in such high anxiety preparing and the days leading up gearing myself up to leave the house(I dont leave the house very often).
My rescheduled appointment was today and I was really anxious I felt like I was going to puke. I was kept waiting 45 minutes despite my partner saying it was causing me great distress I had picked my skin a lot to the point of bleeding.
I finally got in the room and the firat thing I was told was that my questionnaire abd my meds packets had been recieved but the supporting info noted on my questionnaire had not been received. I immediately went into melt down mode my eyes filled up and I just wanted to burst into tears. All the documents were sent together in the same envelope so WHY have they not received them and WHY has no one told me!? I had so much supporting info from drs, hopsital specialists, support workers, cbt therapists. I feel like now all those has been taken away from me and it put of my control. I checked so many times that the documents were all there before I sealed the envelope my partner even checked for me as I doubt myself due to my ocd. This has totally broken me. I'm sat on my kitchen floor with a bottle of wine thinking how much better of my partner would be if I just killed myself. I am nothing but a complete burden.
The worst thing is I actually tried. I really pushed myself to get all the documents together and now they are conveniently lost. I have no fight left.
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andrea60957 RachRoux
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RachRoux andrea60957
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It's good to hear that someone believes me that input the documents in...not that it matters anymore but thank you. I feel like I'm losing my mind most of the time and then they do that. Are they wanting suicide rates to increase?! I've heard that tribunals are a lot better and it is actual medical professionals doing the assessment which actually makes sense! I wish you the best of luck with it. Xx
Diamond14 RachRoux
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Hi
i have an assessor coming Monday to review my claim, it is due to expire may 2017. I am so worried as I sent the renewal form in & didn't expect a home visit. Nothing as changed in my condition & I sent all supporting information to support my claim so was shocked to receive a home assessment & im so worried as I have read so many bad things about them. On my first assessment on applying I attended a centre & they didn't listen to anything I said & I had to have a mr considered as I disagreed with what they had said & had changed loads of my answers etc. I. Only youngish & because you cannot see any physical problems they think you lie, I have ongoing back problems. Slipped compressing discs, I am on extremely high doses of morphine, my partner & son do almost everything for me & I am very depressed due to all this. I have a lot of support from my mum, partner & son. What am I to expect for them on Monday? Thanks
anthony97723 Diamond14
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Hi Ice queen
Firstly there is nothing sinister in a home visit indeed they have saved you a visit to the assessment centre.
The assessor will ask questions and make notes on their laptop computer. They will ask about your medical history.
BIG TIP HERE explain thoroughly your medical history including what's wrong, date of diagnosis and who you saw and where. This is important because it is highly unlikely they have read through the hospital reports you have supplied, they tend only to read the PIP2/ESA50 forms.
They will then ask you questions based on what is written in your claim form. If you receive personal care it is vitally important that you have included the information. This is because the form has a declaration at the end that you have supplied information which is the truth. If you haven’t put the care received on the form then you are declaring you don’t receive any even if you tell them at the assessment that you do. This is because of the balance of probabilities test where a statement with a signed declaration would carry more weight than simple word of mouth.
On the assumption that you have provided the information the assessor will ask you how your condition affects you so you should go into great detail and refer to the medical/care evidence if you need to. If this is a PIP application then personal care/mobility needs are vital and you should ensure the assessor understands fully your needs.
They may want to do some physical tests such as your grip, ask you to walk or bend down. They will only do this if it is appropriate to do so. An assessment can take up to 45mins to an hour so keep clam and consistent and the best of luck.
Rmanuni RachRoux
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Anthony do you realise now patronising you come across as.
As you agreed this is a forum.
I guess that belived in place of safety I belived that's w place I can vocalised my opinion.. One with everything everyone else.
But in all honesty you come across as though hour forming peoples opinions.. Which is why you were asked (and rudely Ignored) if you worked for dwp.. You act like you know how to deal with stuff...mote than everyone else and thats rather arrogant, truth is people lie... And my friend won her tribunal on a.lie
..so.i hope this lies help every other person that you don't put off fighting.. Because your words could put people off... For no genuine reason.
Rmanuni
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I realise previoues was badly typed, I am sorry I'm dyslexic and very tired.
But pls stop influencing peoples opinions.
anthony97723 Rmanuni
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So what do you want me to do just agree with you so I don't seem patronising and avoid accusations of working for the DWP?
Of course I'm trying to influence people because I have experience in making benefit appeals and I have been successful on many occasions using the advice I have put in this thread.
Your friend did-not win her Tribunal because of a 'lie' she won because the Tribunal thought that on the balance of probabilities the assessor and DWP Decision Maker's opinion was wrong. That's how ALL Tribunals work and to state otherwise is giving misinformation and is not helpful to anyone.
So my OPINION which you are trying desperately to censor is that ‘bitching’ about ‘lies’ brings no benefit whatsoever in the theatre of benefits appeals.
Finally I didn’t rudely ‘ignore’ the accusation that I work for the DWP I confronted that malicious rumor several times and eventually that person backed down because he knew what he was doing was disgusting and I don’t expect you to reignite that sickening behavior in a pathetic attempt to enhance your personal attack on my personal opinion.
RachRoux Rmanuni
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Hey Rmanuni, Anthony doesn't have to be the dwp bad guy because he knows all this info. There are so many people who will know this kind of info and they will be on our side! Citizens advice, legal professionals specialising in benefits, welfare rights, charities, support workers, social workers the list goes on. It did take me a few times of reading through his replies to get n understanding of what he wad saying but what he is saying makes a lot of sense. He is trying to help, based on his knowledge and experience. It may come across as quite intimidating all this info especially if you are partial to the bitching session as I am but really he is just saying here is what you don't want to get hung up on (they lied) and focus on it being an opinion.
Xx
mike09523 RachRoux
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I must admit I thought you were a bit condescending in some of your replies, but I can see that you do have knowledge of the system a nd as the saying goes ,knowledge is power.
Therefore, ignore our bitching sessions and keep advising us, if you have experience on something relevant to this site I for one want to know about it.
Mike.
anthony97723 mike09523
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Thanks Mike
TBH if I came over as condescending then that's a price I'm willing to pay. I'm glad that at last some posters are starting to get the idea.
My heart sinks every time I see someone post the words 'the assessor has lied so I'm going to appeal' because I know from that point on the burden of proof has moved from the ‘balance of probabilities’ to one of beyond reasonable doubt as the Claimant is accusing the assessor of using malicious intent to defraud the Claimant of benefit. It would be almost impossible to prove that as the assessor has always got the defense that it was their ‘opinion’ not a statement of fact.
I know some people find bitching therapeutical I just find it a waste of time. My motivation is not slagging someone off its being successful at challenging poor opinions and decisions by the assessors and decision makers at the DWP.
Unfortunately getting people to understand how the system works is harder than I expected and some of the name calling has been disgusting. If you challenge a view some people have to respond with calling you names and branding you as an employee of the DWP in an attempt to discredit you and water down your statements.
That said I stand by my record and I have helped tens of people on this site alone. For every Rmanuni there is at least one other who is now better off because they listened to what I had to say rather than going off in a rage and falling flat on their face.
RachRoux anthony97723
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I appreciate your knowledge of this subject albeit rather wordy however I think I have got the point 😊
I can see that you are trying to help, others may take a while to see that also. Xx
RachRoux
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Omg everyone I actually can't believe it but I received an outcome for my pip already! Enhanced daily living and standard mobility with a big back payment that came yesterday I am absolutely over the moon! I can't believe it didn't go to a appeal like everyone was saying to me (my partner, support worker etc) it would I was in so much panic.
Thank you for all.you help at the time it was very much needed everyone. I hope you manage to get the outcomes you need. Xx
anthony97723 RachRoux
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Well done RR! You have every right to be proud of yourself you took on the PIP system and you rightly WON!!
Now spend some of that back pay on a treat for you and your partner
sukes RachRoux
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