pip decision

I'm appalled and saddened by all of this, as you say the assessor seems to be from another planet.  I can't remember if anyone has mentioned it already (sorry if they have) but it may be helpful to make contact with your MP.   

Thanks for your comment, I've been and seen my GP today, who's very surprised and has given me extra medication because my blood pressure has gone way up he's very supportive, I've contacted my MP and explain the situation, awaiting a reply (she's a tory). i've also contacted Adult Social Services, my wife holds an emergency carers card. I've told them that in the postion I'm in now my wife will not be caring for me anymore and they will have to supply carers to cover everything she has to do. They've been in contact and I have to ring them tomorrow so I can have further discussions with them. Hey if the government want to pay £15/ hr for my carers instead of reinstating my correct benefits, bring it on.

Hi Zorro, do you not have to pay for care, my mother in law is 88 and has been told that she will have to pay for care, ie help getting in shower etc, I would help her if I could but being unable to walk would see us both on floor LOL I also cannot claim care because my partner is a pensioners, if he wasn't he could get care for me, how does that work, I hope you get it sorted

My wife is a pensioner as well and because of the pip decision means she will leave her pension credit, never understood that as one day she gets £55/week carers allowance, the next day she's older and no longer gets that instead she gets £16. Still doing the same caring job. I've got to ring Adult social services today as they are panicing now that they miht be burdened with finding the money to do the same job as my wife does. Not sure about paying as I will probably find out later today. I could afford to pay for some care but now I'm losing £108/week I won't have any money to pay for care.

Have you checked out a benefit call, Direct. Payment? That is a payment to help with your care. Go on line and check it out. Social workers should know about this as you have to be assessed by them. All the best

Spoken to Adult Social Services today as my wife has an emergency card for them, they couldn't get over the fact that they have taken it away. She has kindly emailed me a copy of my wife's assessment saying what she has to do to look after me and are now coming out to update the information, so that's a nice point to send towards my appeal. My wife and I have both written 2 page letters explaining about the assessor and how he has ignored 80% of what we persented to him and a great big wad of paperwork. i think they class someone who sweeps up in the hospital as a medical professional cause I've no idea what was going throught his head when he was here.

Hi,

I think you should ignore the lies and what was ignored at the assessment and concentrate on the descriptors and which ones apply to you, this will you give you the best chance of over turning the decision with the MR. The DM won't be interested in long letters about any assessment and what happened etc. Great that the Social Services are sending you that evidence. Good luck.

Firstly I don't count 2 pages as a long letter. So if I tell them what we gave the assessor all the paperwork and what we verbally told him and he's ignored it I should not point out his failings or his mistakes?. You must be joking? he got the emergency carers card from adult social services and never mention that is his mistake. Plus if everybody did that they would think there was no problem with the people doing the assessment. Remember the nurse that balntantly lied about a disabled person needs? she got prosecuted. I for one will not take this persecution of people in need lying down I will fight for what is my entitilement. I not sure but someone said they heard something on the news that the way PIP is being done is breaking the law and Parliament will have to alter the law in the near future, probably when the thieves have got an even bigger majority.

Firstly, you were the one that stated that you had written 2 page letters, to me that's a long letter. No i wasn't joking. I wouldn't give advice if i thought i was wrong. It's very easy to get angry and upset by all the lies that's been told. I can only advice you, if you choose not to take my advice then that's your choice. I won't advice you anymore but i'll wish you good luck and move on.

Hi Zorro.

I must admit Denise is right. I went through this a while go. My assessor who was a nurse lied. So I put in my MR. sent documents from my GP , consultant and Specialist nurse. DWP informed me they were awaiti for not evidence from the medical team. Then hey presto used the assessors report again and nothing changed. Hence my appeal. I have we t all medical evidence with the appeal documents. Which were accepted and I am now awaiting a date for the tribunal. Which they have kindly agreed to do in my home City, due to my illness. I do hope all goes wrll8for you. But as Denise said they take no notice of letters sent to them and do not usually read medical reports or ask for them. And decisions remain the same.

Mark

Thanks for that Mark. Like i said i geniunely wouldn't give advice to anyone if i thought i was wrong in any way, I'm not here for that. The reason i stayed last year after my PIP award was because i know what's it's like to go through all this and decided i wanted to help others as much as i can.

Well I'm sorry but I though the decision was based on your needs and if the assessor makes a decison without even looking at the medical proof it's wrong and you should be able to challenge it. After all I though we lived in a country that protect free speech and human rights? Do you know of anyone who has had a home visit and asked to see the assessors qualifications?

Your advice is important and you express your experience well but to me it comes across as an attitude of don't rock the boat cower down and be careful what you do. while I respect your opinion and your right to express that, I'm not that kind of person, if someone is attacking me without the proper infomation and the decision is based on their perspective I will challenge it. I have quite a lot of background in this area and I will not go quitely and I will fight for my rights. the only thing that I wish is other people who are scared and do not know how to take them on or do not have the capability to do it is criminal. There was a program on BBC the other day that stated that 300 people a week were appealing and it was costing the government a million a week. that's the way to save money.

Hi Zorro.

We should be able to challenge their decision. But unfortunately we have to follow their protocol. Have to get the MR in first then if decision comes back the same in which most cases it does. Have to ask if you an out an appeal in. You have to fill out the appeal form and state why you think the decision is wrong. If your appeal us accepted. They write inform you. They also write to DWP Asking them why they made their decision. They have 28 days to send their response. Or they can say they have changed the origional decision. If that happens there is no need for a tribunal. But whatever happens it takes time. It's stressful and makes you even more Ill. But there's nothing you can do until you receive the letter from the court.

Mark

My attitude as you put it isn't exactly an "attitude" more of an oppinion than anything else. Yes the advice i give to people that are thinking of reporting changes could infact backfire on them. The reason i say this is because it's true, the amount of stories i've actually read that people have reported those changes and their award has been taken off them is insane. The thought of people losing what they already have just cuts right through me. That's the reaosn why i didn't report my changes well over 1 year ago because i didn't want to risk losing what i already had. My be careful what you do "advice" is because i care, whether or not that's the impression i give i don't know. Like i said before text is a very strange thing and sometimes someone can come accross as aggressive in what they type but that's certainly not my meaning when advicing people. Yes sometimes i agree when someone treads on my toes i can be aggressive but i'm sure that's the case with most people. When i advice people about reporting changes i usually advice them what the outcome could be " stay the same, lose everything or increase"

Having said all that...thanks i value your oppinion

My decision arrived it include the assessor’s report, I rang them and was told that I had 28 days to send as much reports and pertinent correspondence. I told the lady that my wife is the one who knows me best as she is my full time carer, she said get her to send a letter explaining what she does day to day. So thats what I’m doing and including her Adult Social Services Report which is from 8/15 and I wrote on it that they were reviewing this in the near future. So that’s how it’s gone for me, so now I’ll wait and see what happens.