PMR in Hands and Wrists

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I am interested in hearing from others about PMR traveling into the hands and wrists.  Mine migrated from my thighs to my shoulders and now into my hands.  Mostly my right hand.  My doctor concluded that instead of PMR i might have late onset rheumatoid arthritis (LORA).  Numerous tests within nuclear medicine (I now glow at night) seemed to prove otherwise even though PMR is not "known" to affect the hands.

So...I'd be intersted in hearing from others about whether your experiencing swelling in your hands.  One hand?  Both? And someone out there commented on calcium as being a culprit...meaning too much calcium being consumed to offset bone density issues.  Any thoughts?

Much appreciated.

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  • Posted

    PMR can be in the hands . I had that but it did go away after upping my Pred slightly. Also tested for RA which was negative.
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    My PMR started in my hands to the point i would wake up with them in fists and in pain, easing off during the day. Dr first thought osteoarthritis until it started moving to hips, legs shoulders and toe.

    When finally diagnosed and on prednisone it is better but are swollen if i over use or repetitive actions.

    I hope this helps

    Mariane Canada

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    I had a period of several weeks where my hands and wrists were hit with a vengeance.  They eventually settled down, but during that time the pain was excruciating.  I wasn't taking any calcium at the time. 

    I continue to have some mild swelling in both hands, especially between my first knuckles near the palms of my hands...slightly worse in my right.   I only notice wrist pain if I "over bend" or lift something heavier than I should.  Hand/wrist pain is worse in the AM and gets better as the day progresses. 

    My rheumy also suspects LORA, though tests were sero negative for RA.

    I'm presently on 2.5 mg of pred with 200 mg Plaquenil.  The RX was for 400mg Plaquenil but that dosage made my ears ring so badly that I couldn't sleep, so I reduced to 200 and seem to be managing.  

    I was diagnosed w/PMR in March 2015

     

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      Maggie - I was also prescribed Paquenil.  Why did your doctor do so? Cncern over LORA?
    • Posted

      Plaquenil (for some) apparently  works as a steroid sparing sgent and in addition to helping with mild RA, is supposed to lessen withdrawal symptoms when reducing prednisone.  
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    Yes, mine definitely traveled to my writsts.  My legs almost never bother me anymore.  My shoulders, arms, and wrists were the worst.  I started splitting my dose of prednisone last week and have been pain free.  Every morning, my writsts were so bad that I thought maybe I had developed carpal tunnel syndrome from too much time here at my computer.  I do need to begin reducing my prednisone in a week.  I am still on 20 mg a day, ten with breakfast and ten with dinner.  When I begin the reduction, I will reduce the dinner dose and hope for the best.  My rheumatologist wants me to go down five at a time, I am in the U.S.  I am thinking of splitting a five and make it 2.5 utnil I see him.  I was interested in what you said about the calcium.  I take extra calcium.  I have not had bone problems, but my calcium levels used to be a bit low.  My last blood test showed they were slightly elevated.  I would be very curious about that.  Oh, I have not really had much swelling in my hands.  At first when they were so sore, I took a ring off of my right hand as I was afraid that it would get stuck.  I need to try that ring again.  I think all is well.
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    I have problems with my wrists too. I'm down to 3 mg of prednisone after 16 months. I can't lean on them when getting up. My rheumy told me to soak them in Epsom salts and warm water in the morning. It seems to help.

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      I am wondering if my pain will come right back once I start going down on the prednisone.  I sure hope not, but from what I am reading here, I am expecting it.  I will know next week when I start reducing it.  I am so new to this, I started with the pain in April.  I was so lucky to get immediately to a rheumatologist who knew from the the beginning.  He has been great.  I am hoping that if I am not on all of this for a long time that it might help.  I am trying to be optimistic, but know that anything can happen.  I was using warm water in the morning too.  Once I started splitting my dose, morning and evening,  I have awakened pain free.  Not sure how all of this will work when I start going down, but plan to continue to split the dose.  That is great that you are now down to 3 mg.  I hope you can get it all the way.  Good luck.  Donna
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      You should not go down by as much as five.  There is a way to go down by five in the same amount of time.  Say you are given a month to reduce from 20 to 15.  Try dropping by 2.5 for a week or two.  If that works, you can try a further drop of the same, although I'd be tempted to reduce by only 1 mg per week.  Do you have 1 mg tablets?  The standard is never to reduce by more than 10% at a time, and to make sure you are stable with the pain under control at each level before reducing further.  

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      Donna, your rate reduction is much too fast, if you're not careful you will suffer the consequences. Lots of discussion on these threads about tapering very very slowly. Those of us who've tried to accelerate the process live to regret it

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      I keep hearing this.  The protocol in the U.S. seems to be 5 mg.  I had decided that on Monday, I will cut my ten mg tablet in quarters, thus giving me a 5 plus 2.5 to put together.  Then I was planning on taking 10 mg with breakfast and 7.5 mg with dinner.  I have enough prednisone to last me at 20 mg until I see my rheumatologist the 8th of August.  I have not done a reduction yet as I am new to this.  This will be my first reduction.  I would need some 1 mg tablets to reduce by that amount.  I could never cut a 10 down by tens.  :-)  So, Daniel, I really appreciate your help.  What do you think I should do??  What all happens besides the return of pain if a person goes down faster?  Thanks, Donna
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      If pain returns you have to up your dose again.  This sometimes makes the next attempt at reduction more difficult.  By all accounts the smaller the reduction each time the more successful.  As I pointed out above you can probably achieve this 5 mg drop in a month but in smaller steps.  If you are expected to drop 5 mg in a week and then another 5 mg in another week, then I don't think anyone can make suggestions that can help you.  I live in Canada and from my starting dose of 15 mg I was advised to drop by only 1 mg increments, weekly.  At 10 mg I had to start the dead slow nearly stop taper, with my doctor's blessing, and have so far successfully reduced to 3.5, now tapering to 3.  This has been since my start thirteen months ago. I may be nearing my lowest possible dose, but so far so good.  

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      If pain returns you have to up your dose again.  This sometimes makes the next attempt at reduction more difficult.  By all accounts the smaller the reduction each time the more successful.  As I pointed out above you can probably achieve this 5 mg drop in a month but in smaller steps.  If you are expected to drop 5 mg in a week and then another 5 mg in another week, then I don't think anyone can make suggestions that can help you.  I live in Canada and from my starting dose of 15 mg I was advised to drop by only 1 mg increments, weekly.  At 10 mg I had to start the dead slow nearly stop taper, with my doctor's blessing, and have so far successfully reduced to 3.5, now tapering to 3.  This has been since my start thirteen months ago. I may be nearing my lowest possible dose, but so far so good.  

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      I do not think there is a "protocol" in the US as you say. It is just that doctors here are less informed than in the UK since there are more people in the UK with this disease.  My doc knows the slower the better chance of succes.

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      I am glad to hear that.  I will talk to my rheumatologist about this.  I found out this past week that my primary care doctor's nurse has PMR.  I am sure she was tempted to talk to me when I first went in with all of my pain in my legs, upper arms, and shoulders, but of course she did not.  Anyway, when I saw her last week and told her that I had been diagnosed in early June, she told me that she has had it for two years.  She is down 6mg.  Her doctors is from an eastern European country and was trained in the UK.  She has been reduding her by 1 mg a month.  I would love to do it that way and will discuss it with my doctor.  I have been on 20 mg for about five weeks, so not sure what be the usual time to begin reducing.  Do you know?  The doctor wanted me to be at 15 by the time I see him again in early August.  I have been pain free for one week, only because I started splitting my dose, breakfast and dinner.  By doing that I wake up pain free.  What do you thing?  I love that I get so much help on here.  Thanks, Marian  I apprecite anything you can tell me.  Donna

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      If your pain has been 70-100% reduced and not increasing at all in the five weeks you may be safe to start reducing now.  I was on 15 mg for five weeks and started my reductiuon then, initially at the rate of 1 mg per week, then at 10 (pain started to return at 9) I began the dead slow plan.  We are all different, however, so listen to your body.
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      Thank you so much, I have been feeling so good.  I don't want to be overyly optimistic, but still want to be hopeful.  I agree that a person should listen to their own body.  I know that we are all different.  I appreciate your help.

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