PMR or Something Else?

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I have been impressed by the level of knowledge and willingness to share advice on this forum.  I have been battling an undiagnosed illness over the past 19 months. PMR is now being considered.  I will try to keep this concise, but I can see that many of you have also experienced  prolonged diagnosis stories. 

Here is my background and relevant medical history. I’m 54 and have been very active my whole life. Had C3-7 spinal fusion in 2008 - herniated discs and bone spurs from an accident.  Raynauds for the past 10 years.  Diagnosed with late stage Lyme disease in 2009.  Contracted Lyme in 2008, very ill for 7 days with 104 fever, even photographed the rash. Lyme has been treated several times over the years with 6 weeks of antibiotics and once with 3 weeks of IV antibiotics.  Since 2009, Lyme type of illness knocked me down once every 3-6 months for 1-2 weeks. 

Current illness started February 10, 2014.  It had felt like I was starting a round of Lyme symptoms, due to increased muscle pain and fatigue.  I then awoke in the middle of the night with stabbing pain under my shoulder blade and could not move the right side of my body.   This was unlike anything I had ever experienced.  I couldn’t even take a breath without the stabbing pain.  All of my muscles were painful, twitching and in spasms.  I thought that my spinal fusion failed. Saw my spine doctor.  He ordered MRI.  Then new symptoms of night sweats, migraine, fever, dizziness, eye disturbances and GI problems started.  The pain under my shoulder blade migrated to the other shoulder blade.  The new symptoms now seemed to point to Lyme. 

I tried to see my Infectious Disease doc, we refer to as Dr. House.  He couldn’t see me for 3 weeks.  I then found a “Lyme specialist” who could see me.  She had me go on an anti-inflammatory diet, immune system supplements and Chinese herbal antibiotics.  I finally got in to see Dr. House.  He felt that my Lyme disease had triggered PMR and GCA, the treatment is long term steroids and I should see a Rheumatologist.  The Lyme specialist reminded me that steroids are terrible for Lyme.  Back to Dr. House.  Let him know that I was feeling somewhat better with the supplements and diet.  Decided to continue treatment with Lyme doc but keep PMR and GCA in mind. 

The fevers and night sweats finally subsided after 4 months, due to Lyme doc treatment or just the course of the illness.  By November, my symptoms shifted to be primarily severe muscle pain in my quadriceps, shoulders, arms and trapezius.  I also had nerve pain in my hands and some dizziness and fatigue. My muscles had atrophied significantly.  Back to spine doctor.  He ordered MRI’s of neck, back and brain.  Nothing significant on findings.  Referred to Rheumatology and then Neurology. Spinal tap, autonomic testing and multiple EMG’s.  Neurology now feels that I should go back to Rheumatology.

Here are the results of this medical saga.  Blood work – initial sed rate of 48, C reactive protein of 4.8, slightly anemic, elevated liver enzymes, low insulin 1.6 – some blood sugar issues.

EMG showed bilateral carpal tunnel and ulnar nerve entrapments.  This 2 hour EMG from hell really flared my symptoms.  I ended up in urgent care and requested a steroid burst.  The burst reduced symptoms by day 3. 

I’m not a fan of the young Rheumatologist I was assigned.  He was immediately offended that the Infectious Disease doctor would suggest PMR when it’s outside his specialty.  That’s the way it always works when I watch Dr. House.  A good Infectious Disease doctor has to know a lot about every type of condition.  He also feels that at age 54, I’m too young for PMR.  My sed rate and C reactive Protein were initially elevated, but were normal when last tested in December.  Didn’t agree with my research that PMR patients very often have Carpal Tunnel.  I asked him to give me his opinion or even a short list of what this could be.  Not one suggestion.  He is tapering me off steroids and then will run repeat blood work.  I have never been so frustrated and miserable.  I just want this saga to end.    

       

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  • Posted

    Where do you live?

    How about asking to see a Vascular Consultant if we do not know a good Rheumatologist in your area.

    You are not too young for either PMR and/or GCA and the new Guidelines which will be issued by the BSR either later this year or earlier this year have been updated to include 50 onwards.

    • Posted

      I live in Wisconsin, US.  I also read that 50+ is the guideline.  He commented that you could find all kinds of guidelines and associated symptoms of any disorder on the internet.  I definitely do not feel confident with this guy.  
    • Posted

      Holly send me a PM with your email address in it and telephone number, I can then send it to the ladies in the States.  In the meantime go to the Mayo Clinic website and read and download the Guidelines provided by the Mayo, they use the international guidelines as they are contributing to major research into PMR and GCA through American College of Rheumatologists and the European League Against Rheumatism and those two organisation are co-ooperating with other Countries. 

      Hit him with the Mayo stuff then find another Consultant.

    • Posted

      I will check out the Mayo guidelines and be sure to share with "Skippy", my young Rheumatologist.  He is definitely the smartest guy he knows.  He even told me to get a second opinion so he would have another doctor to agree with him. rolleyes
  • Posted

    Hi there,

    I too was frustrated in the beginning, but I got a great specilaist, who is very open about things. It sounds like you should be looking for a new rheumatologist to me. Most doctors, including specialists don't know much about PMR which is frustrating especially if they don't have an open mind and let their ego get in the way.

    Keep following this blog and you will learn a lot as their are many people who have much experience and knowledge to share. 

    I have shared many of the ideas from this blog with my doctor who responded positively to them. 

    Good luck,

    Shawn

     

    • Posted

      Thanks Shawn.  Yes, I've learned more about the disease from this site than any other source.  When it was brought up 19 months ago, the description I saw didn't seem to match my symptoms.  Now that I read other accounts on this site, it seems much more likely.
  • Posted

    The frustration is what many have gone through because not to many doctors know PMR.  I went through it and found, going through this web site, that I learned more about the condition then most of the doctors I saw.  The key, for me, was when I started on the prednasone.  It took a few days for the pains to disappear which, after countless tests, reluctantly told the doctors what I had.  We started at 20mg of pred, reduced it quite rapidly and every pain came back to me.  Finally I started a slow reduction plan at 20mg and it is getting better.  I've had PMR for almost 2 years and within the last month, I am feeling better.. Eye blurs better, a little more energy and stamina; able to taste things and better concentration.  I got to the point where I thought this would never going to improve but with these minor improvements I am almost feeling euphoric at 17mg.  Good luck and keep on the site, you will probably learn more here than through any doctor(s).

    Tony

    • Posted

      It's so good to hear that you are having success with treatment.  Gives all of us hope for a better life in the future.  I'm hoping that maybe I have the type of PMR that runs around a 2 year course.  I may have white-knuckled it through the first 19 months, with some help from meds.  
  • Posted

    Holly,

    My wife was hit with Lyme several years ago, but was not diagnosed until it had advanced and did a lot of damage.  Even more, she has been diagnosed with a related condition called "Bartonella," which is awful.  Are you familiar with Bartonella and have you been tested for it?

    • Posted

      Bob,

      Yes, I've been tested for all types of tick borne illness.  I'm sure you are aware of some of the testing controversy.  I still show 2-3 positive bands for Lyme with Mayo testing, which is under the CDC criteria for active Lyme.  Lab testing shows I still have very active Lyme.  No other tick borne illness.  My insurance did not cover the testing ($1,100!) so I know that there is an issue with their method of testing. 

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