PMR without prednisone
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Has anyone out there been diagnosed with PMR and found relief without prednisone (or similar steroid)?
2 likes, 15 replies
Posted , 17 users are following.
Has anyone out there been diagnosed with PMR and found relief without prednisone (or similar steroid)?
2 likes, 15 replies
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tina-uk_cwall pam41628
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linda81950 pam41628
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I am not suggesting that you use it but it is something that I have read about and at times considered.
Are there others out there that have views on this? I may be opening a can of worms!!!!
tina-uk_cwall linda81950
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And again even with cannabis and or marijuana, it is not a 1 drug fits all pain relief. There are some pains that the drug proves ineffective at controlling and both the substances contain no anti inflammatory components. However, having said all that wouldn't it just be so great if another medication was developed that caused fewer side effects than preds, not just for PMR/GCA sufferers but for all people prescribed preds. Regards, christina
EileenH linda81950
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I don't know if cannabis would necessarily work - it would possibly work in fibro since that is a form of nerve pain and it is nerve pain that responds to cannabis according to some research. You certainly won't get to use it in the UK!
linda81950 EileenH
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I guess I felt the signs of the PMR coming back but thought it was just a matter of time before it would go into remission completely. I was ignorant of the facts and, having now learned so much from you and the others, I realize that fighting the mild pain is ignoring the bigger picture. There is obviously low lying inflamation and with the recent flare up in my wrists, I now know that I must go back on prednisone (particularly if I want to avoid major problems like blindness). I was only giving thought to cannabis to help with the joint pain I was experiencing but knowing more now that really isn't a viable consideration.
I am happy to say that I was successful in getting an appointment tomorrow with my opthamologist due to a cancellation and I hope that he will assure me that everything is okay for now...until I can get on prednisone again.
I may have to wait for an appointment with my rheumy again and, as you say Eileen, I do not have a lot of confidence in her but this time I am prepared to challenge her (nicely, mind you, because she like some others is egotistical). I am hoping that I can start on a lower dose than I did originally but we shall see.
My fear is that I not only have I PMR but that it might now be GCA as well. The day following the flare up with both thumbs, I could feel the "sore spot" and see it between two veins (or possibly between two branches of the same vein).
We have yet to determine what is causing the weird feeling in my head but I strongly suspect that it is caused as well by PMR and/or GCA. It is the uncertainty of the disease, the lack of knowledge in the medical profession and the unwillingness of the professionals to listen and realize their limitations due to lack of first-hand experience, that frustrates me! I am still waiting for a call from the neurologist's office but maybe with the tests that she orders, we can get to the bottom of this.
Eileen, you raised a number of valid points in your previous response and I want to go back and re-read them. My hip which is becoming excruciatingly more painful (getting into and out of the car) will probably need to be addressed soon as well. I know that I need to strengthen my legs first though (with exercises) in order to support myself after surgery. I was fearful of having more pain due to PMR but, as you say, surgery appeared to help the lady you knew.
I would be grateful to hear from anyone out there that has had surgery or knows of someone who has during their journey with PMR. It could be reassuring or otherwise to hear of your experiences with respect to pain tolerance.
Although fearful of what lies ahead, I am determined to take my health into my own hands. Thanks to everyone in this forum for their personal advice and shared experiences!
Gussie1 linda81950
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Hope you will reply.
I've been told that, yes, one must discontinue prednisone prior to surgery as it increases risk of infection. And yes, it is likely that it will be harder to manage pain post surgery due to the abnormal increase in inflammation which accompanies all surgery. With luck the side effects will be minimal.
If you're having surgery on legs -- try to do isometrics and hand weights to strengthen your upper body. You'll want to be stronger if you have been bedbound for awhile as I have. Working on your core (abdomen) may not be so difficult and will pay dividends.
EileenH Gussie1
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There are a few ladies on the forums who HAVE had their hip replacements done while still on various doses of pred - anything up to 10mg that I know of - and who have had successful surgery and good recoveries. They also found they were able to reduce their pred post-op - as of the hip pain was feeding the PMR.
If you are being told you must stop pred for surgery - you need to shop around for another surgeon.
nellie14381 pam41628
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EileenH pam41628
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EileenH
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I also was able to use the alternative approaches for the first 5 years because the PMR wasn't too bad once I got up and got going. But then it hit me like a ton of bricks and those approaches were impossible. There comes a point where where there is a switch between "can I manage with this pain" and "I can't manage any more". And if it progresses to full blown GCA then you have a rather stark choice anyway: take pred or risk losing your sight, irreversibly, permanently. If the vision in one eye goes, the other usually follows within a few weeks, sometimes even despite very high dose steroids.
bob73443 pam41628
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Almost immediately, upon taking the prednisone, I was better. Not 100% in retrospect, But at the time it felt like it! I could sleep without pain. I can get into and out of cars. I can get up from the couch without standing there for a few minutes before moving. I'd say I'm at 75% of "perfect" for my age.
I walk. I even do some slow jogging. Amazing.
andrea93419 bob73443
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nellie14381 pam41628
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I had seen rheumatologist yesterday, and after all these prednisone trying and dropping, he told me yesterday I may have PMR or may not? He suggested trying for 2 weeks Tramadol for pain and physical therapy and letting him know after two weeks how I'm doing? Now I'm totally confused and not sure what I should do? At least I had name for disease! And physical therapy for what if my whole body hurts?! And I think he came to this conclusion because my pain is not 100% symmetrical and my SED rate almost normal! And first time I had a break from pain 8 month ago when I had cortisone injection in hip joint. And later when I tried 15 mg Prednisone. I wish I could take Prednisone to get over with this disease and be back normal person I was. Kind disapointed with rheumatologist...
EileenH nellie14381
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inna1964 pam41628
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I keep everyone updated on the progress. My mom is 74 she also has high blood pressure and chills and afever of 101f once a day.