POEM or Heller Myotomy? What are the pros and cons?
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Hi all,
I decided to have the Heller Myotomy and got sheduled to have it on Wednesday. The reason I chose this over POEM was due to the fact the POEM is a new procedure, and there are no long term studies on it.
I talked to the POEM surgeon on the phone yesterday, and what I heard him say (note - I might heard wrong) is that POEM is more effective in reducing my esophageal spasms than Heller Myotomy.
I am confused on what I should do. I am collecting pros and cons for each procedure to determine which one would be the best choice for me.
Any input is greatly appreciated! Please note, I have type 2 Achalasia, and I am looking for a treatment for my esophageal spasms.
Thank you,
Sonia
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cory2257 s091a
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My 17-year-old son was recently diagnosed with type two achalasia. We are trying to weigh the pros and cons between hellers and POEM. Of course we are concerned with the acid reflux issues if there is no fundoplication with the poem. Can anyone who's had the POEM please advise about their reflux issues?
Can't decide and need help!!!
LisaMod cory2257
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Hi Cory.
POEM pros:
Less invasive/shorter recovery
Can make a longer incision that goes higher in E if needed
Better outcomes with Type 3
Easier to re-do on other side if necessary
POEM Cons:
No long-term results/outcomes
Insurance often won't pay for it
May have more reflux withought fundo
May have to travel to find surgeon with adequate experience
HM Pros:
Gold-standard, long-term outcomes available
Can do fundo, which may lessen reflux
More available than POEM
Insurance will likely pay
HM Cons:
More invasive/longer recovery
More possibility for complication
Fundo can be too tight and restrict swallowing or cause other complications
There is no right answer. Your son can have good/bad results with either as every person reacts differently. The surgeon's experience with HM or POEM is probaly the most important factor. It is essentially the same myotomy.
For the record, I had POEM about a month and a half ago. I had a good experience although developed bronchitis after surgery probably due to leftover food in my E being pushed into my lungs during incubation. My swallowing is at least 90% improved and it is wonderfult to be able to swallow food without having to think about it or be in pain. I am on a pretty strong dose of PPIs for three months and then will go off them and have acid testing. I am experienceing lots of burping, flatulance and nausea, which hopefully will settle down on it's own or due to altering my diet. I will sleep 25-40 degrees elevated for life. I had to pay for POEM since my insurance denied it and would only pay for HM.
There are wonderful achalasia Facebook groups with lots of discussions on POEM and HM if you want more info.
Good luck; I hope your son has a successful srugery.
Lisa
melanie10524 cory2257
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My 16 year old was diagnosed in March after have very sudden onset of Achalasia in January. I was never told anything about "stages" but I will say that his symptoms were bad enough to do surgery right away. (Thank goodness we don't live in Canada and don't have Kaiser, evidentially)
?We were told that only 2 hospitals in the USA did the POEM for children, one being in Washington, DC only 30 minutes from us. We met with and really liked the Chief of Thorasic Surgery at Children's Hospital in DC. He breifly talked us throught the differences in the myotomy and the POEM but really felt the POEM was the way to go.
?He had the POEM in April. It was great for about 4 weeks, symptoms mostly gone. Then the symptoms started to come back slowly and by July he was miserable and unable to eat.
?We scheduled a balloon dialation two weeks ago. NOTHING changed. He is going back in in 2 days for another balloon dialation.
?I was told that there was a great deal of inflamation from the GERD but the primary problem was the tightening of the muscles.
?Not sure if this helps you at all. I'm hoping for more answers after Friday. But thought I should reply since we are both dealing with teenage sons!
cory2257 LisaMod
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Cory
cory2257 melanie10524
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So sorry to hear it is not working out for your son Melanie. I would be interested to hear what you find out after Friday. My son is supposed to have his POEM at University of WI Hospital on Friday but we still dont know as of Wed. night if insurance will cover it. Did you have any insurance issues? My son's doctor had never done it on a child so he referred us to a surgeon who has done about 20 of them, all on adults. He claims that so far, they have had very good success. The GERD is something we worry about and dont want to have him on acid reducers all his life. I truly hope they can figure out what is going on with your son.
We were told that if the acid problem persisted, they could later go in and do the fundiplication, not sure if that is something you have looked at?
Stay in touch, prayers to your son.
Cory
thor_1313 s091a
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I found this today researching what procedure I want to so I have not completed it yet but great info so far.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/310424368_POEM_vs_Laparoscopic_Heller_Myotomy_and_Fundoplication_Which_Is_Now_the_Gold_Standard_for_Treatment_of_Achalasia
mayank01573 s091a
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Dear madam , my case is very similar. The early Heller Myotomy surgery done 8 yrs back had failed. Now am confused. Which had u undergone finally & from which doc ? Pls share your contact number or text ur number at 9887005219, so that I can receive help. Thanks
jessica92773 s091a
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hi, how has your life improved since your surgery?
i have had symptoms for 7yrs - i have medi-cal in ca.