Possible ms? Or paranoia

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Hi I have some concerns over sensory changes that maybe someone with knowledge can give insight into. 8 weeks ago I had some numbness in feet that progressed to belly button level (including saddle and gentialia) within about days. It then progressed to armpit level on my chest within another couple of weeks. Finally, my left thumb and forefinger got it about 2/3 weeks ago. I know numbness is subjective so here is my description: I have full muscle control, no weakness or muscle fatigue (I still go running etc). I don't have any pain or electric sensations shooting etc, it's just annoying. I can sympathise with the description of having tights or socks on, as it's a sensory change on the skin by my best description. I can still feel normal pain and temperature changes, I can descriminate sharp objects from blunt, and I can feel the hair follicle stimulation on my legs too. Vibration sense tends to be a little decreased. This leads me to thinking of a problem of the posterior nerve tract, and therefore something to do with ms? Obvs I need an MRI, which I will hopefully get referral for soon, neurologist app is in 2 weeks. Nerve studies showed normal. Most doctors so far have said it's not 'normal' ms presentation, but what is? Just wondered if most relapses have other common symptoms such as ON, pains, weakness, or anything else really. I have had a bit of foggy head occasionally. My symptoms stay, and dont get worse or better, or affected my sunbathing or hot showers. They were fairly symmetrical (at least on legs up to waist), chest is worse on the right side. I am lost as are doctors, any thoughts or interesting info as to the normal/ general ms feelings vs what I feel? Hopefully someone can reply as I am pretty much paranoid!

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    I meant within 10 days....
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    hi, i have ms, diagnosd (which can be shortened to dx) 2004, in short, the wildly varied possibilities of ms presentation/progression frequently make dx difficult. there generally needs to be signs of progressioin over both time and space, using both medical examinations, by a doctor (preferably a neuro. dr) and MRI. typically, a lumbar puncture is done, to test cerebrospinal fluid for oligoclonic bands, as well. about the ,ost that any neuro dr would tell someone at this sort of stage is 'it MIGHT be ms'

    i would advise anyone with strange health concerns, to keep a written record of any symptoms and changes in symptoms. severity of each issue too and keep dates where poss.

    hopefully you will find that there is a simpler, less worrying cause for your problems, trapped nerves, perhaps. i found simple breathing exercises helped to make being dx a little less stressful. should it turn out to be ms, i'd recommend the uk ms society website for info

    best wishes x

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    Hi thanks for the reply. I thought as much that i won't get much in use way of a dx until MRI and further tests are done. Just thought I would try and find any other peoples experiences of relapses regarding numbness/tingling. My symptoms seem to be fairly constant, in the fact they don't really change from hour to hour or day to day. They have been progressively increasing in intensity over the whole experience since it started, but it is quite gradual. I presume most people get this kind of sensory numbness. Any chance of an explanation of how the numbness feels? Is it similar to what I described, does it flare up more during the course of a day, or by external stimulus, or is it just constantly there, all day long? Do you lose all types of feeling in the affected areas? Any kind of info will be great, just to empower myself with knowledge of what others have gone through really. Many thanks for the reply.
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    In 1989 I had optic neuritis but didn't see a doctor and the effects went away in about 7 days.  In 1990 a friend at work and I participated in the MS bike ride 'The Best Dam Bike Get Together' in AZ.  The ride was from Phoenix to California.  I went the following year also but died going up the last 3 miles of uphill to the Parker Dam. 

    Then I moved to Long Beach CA and in 1993 while working on the F-18E/F at Northrop my toes were tingling.  By Friday I could not feel anything below my waist.  After about 5 months the feelings returned to normal except the balls of my feet felt like they were swollen and hurt to walk on.  Naturally I still did what I loved doing playing basketball but now I stumbled and my legs felt like lead weight strapped to them.  They got heavier and heavier the more I played. Soon I realized that playing 8 or 9 games was out.  I would be lucky if I could stand after 4 games. 

    Finally in 2000 I got optic neuritis again and went to a doctor this time.  He sent me to a neurologist and the discovered I had MS.  Thank God I thought now I know what’s wrong with me.  But I was wrong, now I realize what a curse.  I am screwed.  No more basketball, I'm fortunate if I can even play one game and worst of all I now suck at it and I am from Indiana.  I can't work up a sweat in anything I do because I can't run and do it.  I hit a wall and I am spent. 

    That's how it started for me, although, I think it really started from never being sick in High School.

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      Hi thanks for your description...just a couple of questions if you don't mind. When you said you couldn't feel anything below your waist, what do you mean by anything? Like skin touch, or pain, temperature, pressure etc or was it just all sensations gone? Did you have any pain with your waist down numbness?

      Have you only ever had 3 relapses or have there been more in between or additionally to the ones you have mentioned? At the moment my symptoms seem to be just sensory and not motor but I guess things can change slowly or quickly. Many thanks

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    h againi,

    i didn't give a description of my sensory loss in my earlier post,(and it's really difficult to describe, as you doubtless know, but here goes):

    to begin with it was an off and on issue for me, there's no 'standard' way for it to develop, some find it's continual. like you, from the onset of noticeable symptoms, i could feel sharp things, although much less so now, the same goes for a softer touch sensation. my sensory loss has slowly crept up on me, it feels as if there is something (like fabric?!) between my skin and whatever sensation there should be. however, i can still, mostly, feel hot/cold sensations. i find that anything that should feel like a gentle touch either is barely there, OR really horrible, it sort of makes me cringe or jump away from it. my reflexes are either as flat (barely there) as a pancake, or super sensitive and tingling and burning seems like an 'optional extra'. sorry i can't provide better descriptions. 

    hope this helps (?)

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    I have similar symptoms, just wondering if you found out if it is MS? I have a neruology appointment in two weeks. Genital numbness, can feel pain and temp. Lost my sense of taste twice. Some twictching at night before bed. burning sensations in my feet. 
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      Hi if you dont mind me asking, what did the neurologist say? I have the same issue with numbness loss of taste and smell. Ive had it for quite some time and trying to figure this out.
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    Hi..don't know if you ever got ur mri to find out what it is making you numb..but i also had numbness started in my feet and worked it's way up to my waist..but stopped there..there's a name for it..think it's called the 'ms hug'..something like that..i can't feel things..not total numbness, but pretty numb..my feet a lot of times feel like i'm walking in cold wet sand is the way i descibe the feeling..my feet get freezing a lot..i was diagnosed a few months back with ms..i'd had lyme disease last year, and bcuz of the numbness, my doc thought maybe it had spread to my central nervous system..so had a spinal tap, then two mri's, and it was determined that the lyme was gone, but that i have ms.i've been told there are no two people with the same symptons..everyoine is different, though the symptoms are all similar..look up the Stark Diet for anyone who has ms, and doesn't want to take the meds with all the awful side effects..diet is important..stay away from any and all processed foods..i stopped drinking milk and switched to almond milk..google milk and ms and read about it. I take something called low dose naltrexone..look it up again..andit works pretty good for me, with virtually no side effects..my doc wants me to take something called Aubaggio..but the side effects are about worse than the ms, so i don't want to..and remember..you don't have to take anything you don't want to..and if ur not happy with something you take..tell ur doc and try something else..if he won't do that..find a new doc..it's ur body..you have to live with what the effects of any drug are..so it's up to you only..read up on ms medications for an informed decision.hope this helped a bit..let me know what happens with your doc..
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      hi, you've really been in the wars haven't you, lymes disease as well as ms, yuck! i don't know if i've misread your post, but just in case i haven't,  the dreaded 'ms hug' is when the intercostal muscles go into a really tight spasm, several, or all at once, they then stay really tight, typically for an extended period of time. it extremelly painful. i found that, in the early days after diagnosis (dx), i was tortured with it. a combination of stretches, several times a day, and muscle relaxants, baclofen, i slowly got back to a more copeable level of spasm. ms, the gift that keeps on giving!
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      hi wendy..yeah, you know..it''s kinda been hell. but the 'ms hug' that i have isn't painful for me..it's just numb and very annoying..but I have that from my feet up to my waist..and my feet feel like blocks of ice most of the time..even in the summer..sometimes they get painful..sometimes it feels like i'm wearing sox even when i'm not..it's so weird..i used to get fatigued a lot before my medication..but for the most part, i';m not so bad with that anymore..except i guess sometimes when i have a small relapse..at least that's what i think it is..just found out, my neuro's group won't be taking my insurance after the first of the year anymore..so now, on top of all the other stress in my life that i'm trying to keep to a minimum..i have to find a new neurologist..i'll try and get a referral from my current one..but don't know how that will go yet..time will tell..lol  yes..it IS the gift that keeps on giving..and it won't let me give it back...lol..hope you're feeling better...  neutral
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    Hi the trouble with ms and Dr's is they never agree. I had numbness my leg dragged, the ortho said orthopaedic the neuro said ms, it took me years to gety ms diagnosis after weird symptoms and severe fatigue periods. I didn't like my neuro but at least he was constant after first being dusmissive, he always said its MS. I developed a Dr phobia later and now when I am deteriorating I have a new neuro who says its Arthritis and a Dr who says its MS ....so I'm heading towards closing my marbles!!! When you have ms only other people with it know the frustration of not being believed etc good luck you need to fight for your dx.

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