Post OP Experiences (Heller w/toupet)
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Is it strange that I never really feel hungry anymore? I will eat just to eat but I never really ever feel a point where I'm hungry. If anything I mostly feel like I had just eaten a light meal and that feeling stays throughout the day. Why is my stomach feeling this way? Also I have the feeling of something in the throat like a lump. Only post op though.
Also it is 3 months post op, according to my surgeon things were only suppose to get better from surgery to the 3 month mark and then whatever results after the 3 month mark I have is where I will be at. In my experience it really was getting a lot better until maybe like a month or so of eating solids I noticed things slow down a lot. Now things aren't any better, I'd say slightly worse at times. Can anyone else relate to this post op experience? Also does anyone have any suggestions as to why I never feel hunger anymore?
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JoyAsh kayla19404
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I had the HM back in 2012 and I wasn't hungry for a long time. My appetite didn't really return until a couple of years later actually. I ate because I knew I had to, not because I was truly hungry. Maybe your appetite will return soon. Give everything time to heal and rest. Best of luck!
kayla19404 JoyAsh
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donna15310 JoyAsh
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Thank you for sharing, Joy. I appreciate knowing that it took you 2 years post-op to get to the point where you have some sort of appetite. I have no appetite at all. I mean what is there to get excited about, when most of the things one loved to eat, are taken out of the diet! I eat to stay alive, and I am careful about the 'nutritional' value of what goes into my mouth. It is good to know, that I am not the only one going through these things. Thanks again, for sharing. Haven't seen you posting in awhile.
Cowgirluc JoyAsh
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Wow I'm going in June for surgery. And hearing about hunger makes me worry cause I have no hunger now I will wait and wait but it my try to growel but food does not sound good cause I know what can happen .I hope it returns unless that nerve has been affected already. I spaz out with out eating. I just have to move wrong. It also could be the herring rods in my back from shattering my L1 very be and fracture of T 8-9 who knows!
donna15310 kayla19404
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Hi Kayla! It is a strange thing, but I too, seldom feel hungry. I graze, and I eat , because I have to stay alive. I was told the same thing 3 months post-op - that there would be no further improvement, and there would be no miraculous thing happen. At 6 months post-op, I am in the 'management' phase of Achalasia. I eat very small portions of food, with large portions of water, to 'wash' everything down. The variety of solid foods is limited. Sucking on bitter, dark, chocolate discs are my go-to, when I feel that stuff is simply 'sitting.' I was told the flavenoids help that darn sphincter muscle to relax somewhat. And again, I don't feel hungry most of the time. I don't 'feel' food move into the stomach. So, I wonder if we have lost somewhat the 'sensing' of things...perhaps has to do with the nerves. Sometimes I forget about the Ach., and go to put something in my mouth, and then realize that I don't have something at hand to 'wash' the food down, and so just leave the food. I've felt pills stick. I can't swallow capsules, and so they have to be taken apart and mixed with applesauce. The surgery itself is not a cure nor a fix, but as my surgeon said to me, it is to give us a better quality of eating [than we had pre-surgery]. And for myself, this is true. Pre-surgery, I was on a liquid diet, now I can handle small amounts of solid food with water. By the way, my GP put me on Rabeprazole, as I was getting acid coming up. The Rabeprazole has taken care of the acid, which is great.
AlanJM kayla19404
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Would you say that you might be feeling a little bit bloated? If so, it would be worth checking with your doctor.
kayla19404 AlanJM
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DJ-RN kayla19404
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I hope it helps you! I'm sure it probably will! Stay positive!
DJRN
AlanJM kayla19404
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OK. That is indeed a complication, and the specialists are best at dealing with it. Eating little and often may possibly help your system. I suspect that you may not be able to gain much weight unless you revert to a more liquid diet, and you will have to keep up your nutrution levels regardless of anything else. Perhaps your system might get 'trained' into acting more normally in due course? With food not going through your system properly it is not surprising that you do not feel hungry. Having said that, I am not medically qualified and you will need to act under guidance from the specialists.
teresa_08485 kayla19404
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donna15310 teresa_08485
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You are spot on....that is exactly how I feel. I have, to use the words from one of the tests they did on me recently, 'poor clearance' from the esophagus into the stomach. The gastric emptying happens, when the sphincter muscle feels like working. I also, could happily eat once a day, and my preferred meal would be soup...that will not keep a person in good form, so I force myself to graze, and to eat small meals. Like you, if I each a little too much, the Achalasia lets me know it. This morning, I have had some nausea. Teresa, can you tell me what kind of food works for you, and what doesn't? I realize that we can happily eat something one day and it works, and then the next time, with the same food, it doesn't work.
teresa_08485 donna15310
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I also like liquids. I think it stems from when I was deathly ill and needed urgent surgery as I was misdiagnosed for years. I used to sip on broth. It's a comfort food when I'm feeling like food is my enemy. I can do salad, its strange, but it goes down easy. No bread or muffins, no rice and for some reason, no egg rolls. I often have herbalife shakes for a meal. Everyday is different. I often wash my food down with water as it still sticks. I have been dialated 3 times since my myotomy but it sends me into spasams so bad that I don't want it again. I have tried botox with some help, for the spasams. String cheese helps my spasams stop, but recently, it gets stuck on the way down too. I find I really have too chew good and many days the food goes down easy. But the meals need to be small. Yogurt is good too with some berries, but that's close to liquid too. I think salad is my easiest to eat.
AlanJM donna15310
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I realise that people are different from each other and that things can be inconsistent, but you may find the rough and ready survey of food experiences helpful as set out in A Patient's Guide to Achalasia that you can download from the website of the Oesophageal Patients Association under The Oesophagus and Achalasia. It will at least be a start.
donna15310 AlanJM
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neil32387 donna15310
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donna15310 neil32387
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I wish we had something like that in Canada, but as far as I know, we don't. There has only been one other Canadian on this Forum, since I joined last Fall.
donna15310 teresa_08485
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Warm soup is very comforting. I puree vegetable soup, add some Basil and a little bit of shredded cheese. Like you, food still sticks in the esophagus, even post-surgery and dilation. My esophagus is finished, paralyzed, and there will be no positive change...no miraculous improvement, as my surgeon said to me, 4 months post-op. I'm lactose intolerant so yogurt is out for me. I do make a protein shake, using unsweetened almond milk, a frozen non-dairy product [its like ice-cream, but not ice-cream!], pureed prunes, peaches, protein powder and spinach. That's my afternoon meal per se. Salads are out for me, as is bread and things like muffins, as you said, as they will congeal in the esophagus and lead to a spasm. But we learn, post-op, how to 'manage' our Achalasia, and each of us is different, but yet we share so many of the same things...its odd.
neil32387 donna15310
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Warmest Regards,
N.
donna15310 neil32387
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JoyAsh donna15310
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I like what you said about everyone being different and how we all have to learn how to manage OUR achalasia. That's very true! Soup is comforting to me as well, but too much liquid tends to hurt. I think it's just a life long struggle that we all have to learn to deal with and find what works best for each of us. Best of luck!!!
Cowgirluc teresa_08485
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donna15310 JoyAsh
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Thank you, JoyAsh. My problem is that everything that goes in the mouth, has to be washed down, so there is more water in my stomach than food, for the actual 'meals.' Sometimes, I go to pick up something to put in my mouth, like when I'm out somewhere, and then realize I have nothing to wash it down with, so that 'treat' stays on the plate! et. It would be so nice to have a piece of pizza, or a piece of toast....but I know they are out for me. And, what works for me one day, might not work for me the next. Our dear travelling companion, Achalasia, is very fickle and tempermental. Just when you think you are improving, bam, Ach. rears its head to remind us that it is still journeying with us. I like to hear what works for others....I might try the different ideas, if they work- great, if not, well, so be it. Best of luck for you also.
donna15310 Cowgirluc
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I no longer can drink tea [never drank coffee], and I used to love a very strong cup of black tea [leaves] with milk. As I said before, soup is my favourite thing now. Its funny, soup was never something that I ate much of, in my life. Now, its my number one go-to. I seem to have the spasms under control, for now, and now that I've said this, expect one to happen tonight! lol I guess this is all part of the 'managing' of Achalasia.
DJ-RN JoyAsh
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It's very helpful pre and post op. I have most trouble with anything dry. Warm is best for me.
DJ-RN AlanJM
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DJRN