prinzmetals angina
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I have had prinzmetal's angina for over 7 years. Information about prinzmetal's says that pain occurs at night while in bed. Well not in my case. I get angina pain in the day time as well at night. Does anyone out there get pain in the day as I do ? I get pain at anytime, when it is cold or when I feel stressed and sometimes activity brings it on. I am taking a lot of medication for it , can't be without the nitro spray. Am having a lot of bad days lately hope to have a few good days soon.
Because prinzmetals is rare I feel a bit lonely having it , even though there are people who have the usual angina. It would be good to talk to somebody who prinzmetals.
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andy_27696 Guest
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Man who has suddenly had what was originally thought to be a heart attack. This happened at 4:00 am in the morning some 3 months ago. Ambulance into hospital and straight in for angiogram. But no sign of damage and only mild heart desease. ECG elevated and then 12 hours after admission the Troponin @ 2600. Since had echocardiogram and MRI. Both showin no signs of heart attack. So doctors tell me I've had a cardiac artery spasm but no real understanding of why or what caused it. I think it fits Prinzmetal to a T but the continuing heart ache episodes seem to occur mostly in the afternoon along with overwhelming tiredness. My chest seems normal during sleep hours. Now on Asprin, amlodipine, Statins and Ramipril. ??
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andrew22534 Guest
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good luck!!
cathymcphee Guest
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martininindiana Guest
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Has anyone had their blood levels checked for calcium/magnesium/potassium? When I got frustrated with my doctor, I ordered my medical records and found that while I had decreased amounts of potassium and calcium (but still within normal), my magnesium levels were completely depleted.
Does anyone have other or full-body muscle spasms/tightness? I have been struggling with muscle stiffness, spasms, and twitches for about 10 years now.
I hope to find some answers soon, but the doctors (American) seem to only be searching for high cholesterol (mines extremely low - good and bad) and blockage, which I have none. When they could not find any easy answers, they wrote me off and would not look any further into my condition.
j90889 martininindiana
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samuels martininindiana
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I've had Prinzmetal Angina for years , I've "supposedly" had 2 mild heart attacks and a TIA , I have a 50-60% occlusion in my RCA which is non flow limiting ....to suggest that I don't have "normal angina" however the diagnosis of Prinzmetal was made due to it's frequency , the tomes of day they occured and weren't bought on by exertion.
I noticed your comment of your clusters occuring out of the "normal times" in the research they have found that Prinzmetal usually occurs after 8pm through to the very early hours of the morning some around to 8am , other triggers are cold weather, a puff of wind to the face, just sitting or lying down and stress. Before I was put on Nicorandil I was in emergency late at night up to twice a week, since taking the Nicorandil it has stopped the night time spasms but I get the around middayish spasms which are relieved with GTN (Nitro Lingual Spray) but sometimes it doesn't respond to GTN after awhile I take up to 20 sprays before calling for an ambulance, I don't get your other symptoms....full body muscle spasms/tightness. What I experience is just chest pain(heaviness) and it's usually the shoulders and left arm radiation pain (heaviness), breathlessness and nausea, over the last couple of months I have had the pain radiate into the jaw, broken out into sweats ( at rest) , 2 years ago I had a mild heart attack even though I was going through a cluster of Vasospasms with chest pain and shoulder pain I also had indigestion so I just put it down to that but when I started to feel like I had been hit by a truck and feeling really ill and lethargic I called the Paramedics, nothing was found on their ECG (EKG for you Americans
) Another one done in emergency as theirs is different to the paramedics...once again nothing found, I had blood taken and was sent out to the waiting room feeling like...well...blah and yukky, about an hour later a nurse came and got me from the waiting room and a doctor was waiting for me and that's when I was informed I have had a heart attack (mild) the blood work showed rising troponins that started to dip back down during the early hours of the morning.
I noticed you said you was released with the diagnosis of a heart attack, how did they dicover your coronary artery spasm ? They are hard to catch, the only way they can catch them is when you are having one right at the time of an ECG (EKG) or during an angiogram, they can test for Prinzmetal Angina with a drug ,if you have Prinzmetal this drug will provoke the arteries to spasm whilst performing an angiogram but my cardio said it's not a test that they perform here due to risks "supposed risks" A troponin rise can also be caused by dicky kidneys and I'm led to believe the above blood levels that you are asking about are kidney related, well not just kidney related but it's something I would be thinking about or discussing with a doctor, there are many things that could cause what you have described above and the first thing that came to my mind when I read your post was Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, others include myasthenia gravis, panic /anxiety dis-order, maybe multiple scelorosis (bit harsh I know but just thinking of the big picture )
When you went to emergency they usually order a full blood work up so obviously your troponins were elevated to of been diagnosed with a heart attack...were there discrepencies with your calcium/magnesium and potassium levels ? Another thought is Diabetes but I'm sure you would of known about that by now.
andrew22534 Guest
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i hope this helps, again questions on how i cope i am happy to answer in the forum publicly so "we" can all help each other. Good luck with research and presenting your findings and therefore your ongoing health!!
cathymcphee Guest
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Definitely do use the web to search for medical articles on Prinzmetal so that you can educate yourself, improve your quality of life with that info, and have good conversations with your physicians about it. Like Andrew said, take copies of the articles to your appointments, and if there is something that describes very accurately what you are experiencing, highlight it. Finding a physician that will listen to you is frequently a problem. Because it isn't common, it isn't the first diagnosis they think of when someone has chest pain. And then to have their patient come up with the diagnosis that they missed can cause some bruising to their ego. We frequently have to be our own advocate. This often requires playing politics. Tell them you respect their opinion and knowledge base, but that something changed in your body however long ago it was that you first started feeling symptoms and it doesn't feel right. Then bring up Prinzmetal and discuss the articles that you brought. You may have to do this several times, with several different physicians before you are heard. It can definitely be frustrating, keeping moving forward with your own research into it and continue to bring it up to your physician. Most of the people on here went through a long time of trying to get a physician to listen to them, so your struggle is well understood here.
I would encourage you to talk to your wife about this. She should be your best friend, and as all of here can testify to, you need a friend to lean on when you have this. I understand that you don't want her to worry, and that is noble that you want to protect her. That tells me you are a good husband. But if the tables were switched, would you want her going through this alone? As a married woman, I want to know about anything that is troubling my husband so doesn't go through it alone, stumbling as he goes, but instead he is with me, arms around each other, holding each other up when the other needs it. I can't imagine going through this with without him.
samuels cathymcphee
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It's been awhile, how are you doing ?
I had a very interesting talk with a cardiologist a few weeks back as I was admitted with another troponin rise and when on his rounds it came my turn and we had a discussion about what was going on with me, I had asked him , Does he agree with the ER's diagnosis of Prinzmetal Angina and he said he does and then I shot him a lot of questions mainly about high cholestrol, I had asked him if high cholestrol would cause chest pain and his reply was yes hence why he agrees with the Prinzmetal Angina diagnosis, He explained to me what the cholestrol does, it actually stops the production/eats the nitric oxide in the arteries/small blood vessels in the heart and the endothelium/myocardium....He went on to tell me that Cardiologists are eagerly awaiting a release of a new drug, it comes in injection form and doesn't come with the side effects of statins and this should also stop artery/ small blood vessel spasming, he did tell me the name of it, it name sounded like something named in the canine ranks in the Police
All I can remember is something to this effect CHK9 *******, so on my follow up with my regular Cardio I shall grab the actual name of this new drug they are awaiting for
cathymcphee samuels
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cathymcphee hope4cure
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Now we come to the third and much more rare type, Prinzmetal's angina. This is what most of the people posting on this site have. Similar to the other two types, there is a decrease in blood flow through the arteries of the heart, causing lack of sufficient oxygen for the heart muscle and resulting in the same symptoms (chest pain, sweating, difficulty breathing, etc). The difference here is that the inside of those arteries can be in perfect condition, but for some reason, those arteries get a mind of their own, and just like a muscle can spasm, the coronary arteries can do the same thing. Depending on how bad it spasms, there may be a small, medium, large, or complete stoppable of blood going through that artery. This can last for a few minutes to an hour, but rarely goes beyond that, although it is possible. Because most spasms don't cause a complete closure (which can cause a heart attack), it is a pain to live with (literally and figuratively), but most people who have it are able to live a near normal life. However, many of the people on this site, because it has had such an impact on their life, are worse than average.
Statistically speaking, it is more likely that you have stable or unstable angina, just because so few people have Prinzmetal's, compared to the other two. However, the vast majority of Prinzmetal's pain is during the night, believed to be due to hormonal changes that occur during that period. The only completely definitely way to diagnosis Prinzmetal's is to have an angiogram showing one of two things. The arteries look OK, they inject something to irritate them, and they spasm (most people's won't respond like that), or they do the angiogram and see a very narrow artery, inject nitroglycerin directly into it, and the artery immediately opens up. The ladder is what happened to me. It is extremely rare to catch it like that as you can't plan weeks in advance the exact day and time you are going to have a spasm so it can be caught on angiogram. It can be frequently diagnosed using EKG and lab work during a period of pain, but there are times when even both of those look OK and there is spasm of the artery (aka vasospasm) occuring.
Talk to your cardiologist to find out what kind you have. Other than us all using nitro when we have pain (because regardless of the cause, it makes everybody's coronary arteries dilate), the different types of angina have different treatments.
I honestly tried to keep this one short, but in order to explain the differences, it took a little more time than I had planned. In any case, I hope this was helpful and I answered you questions.
hope4cure cathymcphee
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(( hugs))