PVNS: experience and causes

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I recently got diagnosed with the fairly rare condition called Pigmented villonodular synovitis (PVNS) a disorder which affects joints. In my case, it was my knee joint, as is often the case.

I'm posting this to help others better identify and understand this condition, and also to explore any possible causes.

PVNS is very easily misdiagnosed by GP's. It was misdiagnosed twice in my case, by two different doctors.

Because it's more common in the 30's and 40's age group, and the symptoms are similar to arthritis, it can be misdiagnosed as the early onset of arthritis of the knee/joint in people who are in the upper end of this age bracket.

In the case of the PVNS affecting the knee joint which results in a tumour growth at the back of the knee (as in my own situation), because the condition often arises after a trauma to the knee joint, the condition can be misdiagnosed as a simple lingering knee injury, leaking joint fluid, giving rise to a Bakers Cyst.

The symptoms of PVNS are both sporadic and very similar to both an ordinary knee injury and arthritis as the condition progresses. The joint becomes stiff and movement restricted. It's usually painless in the early stages but as it progresses it causes mild to moderate discomfort with a persistent burning pain around the joint area.

If left untreated, PVNS in its advanced stages, can render the joint completely unusable, requiring a complete joint replacement.

Here's my own experience of PVNS:

I was taking Tramadol (a painkiller) for back pain and was heavily into exercise and was also carrying a heavy bicycle every day up and down stairs. I injured my knee. This was due to the Tramadol I believe. My pain tolerance threshold was at a much higher level, so the injury didn't fully register and I continued exercising and carrying the bicycle, further straining the already injured knee.

Two years later, the knee joint gradually became stiffer and a lump appeared at the back of the knee. It became so stiff I could no longer crouch or bend down to tie my shoe laces. I went to the doctor and was misdiagnosed as mentioned. The second GP ruled out arthritis from an x-ray and to confirm his diagnosis of a leaking joint and Bakers Cyst, he requested an ultrasound scan of the joint. The scan showed an overgrowth on the lining of the knee joint and a tumour growth, resulting in a PVNS diagnosis by an orthopedic consultant.

A proof-positive diagnosis is carried out from sample by examining cells under the microscope from the joint which have the typical PVNS-like abnormal characteristic.

There's two forms of PVNS, localised and diffused. The localised version is what I have. It is a lot easier to treat using key-hole surgery with a better prognosis for recovery. Diffused PVNS affects the entire joint lining, requiring open surgery to remove all of the knee lining and it has a much higher risk (almost 50%) of returning, and requiring extensive physiotherapy.

PVNS is quite a rare condition as I mentioned. Therefore it's not encountered very much by GP's and there hasn't been much research done into the causes of the condition or why it returns in many sufferers. It's not thought to be hereditary, and as I mentioned, trauma to the affected joint is a common feature.

This leads me to wonder if certain medicines, or activities, may cause the condition. As I mentioned, in my own case I was taking Tramadol (at a normal dose of 50mg once daily) for several years, both prior to, and after my knee injury.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone else out there who suffers with PVNS and their backgrounds, in particular:

Anyone who has developed PVNS while being on Tramadol or similar drugs?

Anyone who has developed PVNS after a sports or work related injury, which they ignored?

How much time elapsed from any initial injury to PVNS symptoms and diagnosis?

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    I was diagnosed with PVNS of my ankle. I never had an injury that I could remember. I waited about a year before seeking medical attention. I kept hoping it would resolve on its own. It got so bad that any uneven ground was painful to walk on. I could no longer even walk on a beach or wear heels. I had surgery (synovectomy) and the surgeon stated afterwards that my ankle would never be normal again. Six months later I summitted Mt. Kilimanjaro! My ankle has been perfect ever since and I just passed the 10 year anniversary of my surgery. I am now in my 50's and I wear high heels and still participate in all my favorite sports including tennis and skiing. Never give up hope!
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      Hello guys. I'm 23yrs old male an I'm actually waiting to see what's going on with both of my knees. At the age of 20 I hurt both of my knees working out in the gym. After 6 months they actually healed on there own. They always hurt a little from time to time but overall I was good. Playing sports lifting weights the whole nine yards. As of June 2014 I was in a car accident where I hit my knees on the dash board. My knees become so swollen I could barley walk. I finally went to the doctor where he drained my knees and told me I was going to be okay. A week later both of my knees blew up with 110ccs of fluid in each knee. The doctor was shocked as he told me he never seen so much fluid. For the next few weeks I was getting my knees drained every week then actually got cortisone shots. They order me to do mris where there where no tears but they saw synovtisis. I was later disganoised with peudogout In my knees where they found a lot of calcium in my knees that which was causing the irrational an inflammation. He told me it will go away on its on but a year later I was still in a lot of pain. Lost all muscle in my legs and barley had mobility in my knees. I just actually had a arthroscopic surgery on both knees an he removed a large amount of synovial tissue from both knees. It has been 3 weeks after operation and I'm doing a little better but seem to still be having that same pain in my knee. Doctor told me is normal an I should be better in about 3 months. Now I'm waiting on test results from the biopsy to see if it is pvns. I'm so freaking nervous bc I think I do have it an he told me if I do I have to do a open surgery. It's just a horrible thing to have especially bc I'm so young an have a whole life to live. I can't even go out with my girlfriend bc after a hour of walking my knees start killing me and lock up sad
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      Sorry, I didn't see this post when I replied to your other one. I was diagnosed with pvns 13 years ago this coming Sept. You can go ba k on some of my posts and you will get a bit of my history. I had 30 rounds of radiation and 8 months later the synovectomy (scope not open). Finally a tkr and then a long history of problems. Pvns generally hits teen years to 40's. I was 65 and now 78. This isn't to scare you but I would demand an orthopedic oncologist or an orthopod who has seen multiple cases. Through no one's fault I still have a small piece in there that they can't touch for fear that lying where it does, further severe damage can happen. It's in the middle of a bundle of nerves. Others on here have talked of many surgeries, etc. All I can tell you, we are in the category of rare birds. I go to a teaching hospital (medical school) and am in the US. I may have more options the do you but learned early on, this isn't a condition that most medical practitioners are famerial with let alone know how to approach. Try and relax as much as possible and don't get caught up with trying to make outsiders pvns specialists or caring what they think about your pain levels. Try to get as comfotable as possible with pain meds and wait for your next move waiting for Dr's in formation. Best of luck
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      Once again thank you very much. Yea when I tell people about pvns they have never heard of it. But luckily I think my op has seen pvns before so that's why he wants to rule it out as quick as possible. I'm just worried bc I have all the signs for it. He thinks it may also just be a very bad case of synovtisis from the trauma of my car accident but he doesn't understand why it lasted so long. But I will see him in 4 weeks to find out an he said if it is pvns I will need to do a open surgery but that worrys me bc I'm so young especially since is 50 percent reaccurance. Thank you for your positive feed back tho
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    I am now coming up to 20 weeks since my synovectomy and knee replacement and have only just managed to bend my knee to 90 degrees. I am still 15 degrees off straight. My consultant says it could be a year before the swelling subsides. I have abandoned the hope of any return to tennis in the near future. It would seem that there are no people with the same profile as me, so I have no idea of when I will be back to normal. I am still taking painkillers to get me through the day and more so the night. in the same timeframe my wife had both knees replaced and was back on the tennis court - no PVNS! I keep hoping for a relevant comment on my situation.
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    Hello I'm Harvey, 33 yo from Australia. Was diagnosed with PVNS in my left ankle 2.5 months ago. Had significant swelling for 18 months but no pain or discomfort. Went to GP to get it checked out, was diagnosed by an orthopedic specialist via MRI. Since then have had moderate pain and discomfort which is kept under control by anti-inflammitories. I had a minor sprain a few months before the swelling started.

    It is 'diffuse', surgeon has described as 'gone berserk', and is in the sub-talar joint as well as around both sids and under the ankle.

    They are proposing open synovectomy with 2 or 3 incisions. I have been told I must have this surgery soon as there will be less risk of recurrence and a smaller operation now than later (presuming it keeps growing at the same rate). But I have also been told by others that I should wait until my ankle is so painful I cant walk, reason being that ankle surgery is fraught with danger and most likely there will be irreversible damage from the operation.

    Be glad of any experience from others that have had a similar op - what is the recovery process like?

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    Giving an update on my condition. Just over 7 weeks have passed since my operation and I'm healing rather well. At the 3 week mark I was able to make a circa. 1km sustained walk without crutches although said walk took about 40 minutes to complete with a couple of rest stops in between. Unsurprisingly the knee that night was quite uncomfortable and tight although thankfully it wasn't outright painful.

    4 weeks mark I was able to shrug off the crutches altogether throughout the day. At times walking around the city was unpleasant and slow going especially when encountering steps. Regardless you have to keep pushing less the joint becomes too stiff. This seemed to be the case going through the next week and a half. By constantly moving the joint it not only exercised the muscles, the constant bending of the joint seemed to have the effect of pumping the excess synovial fluids out of the joint and into the surrounding tissue. Once you rest the leg again, gravity slowly pulls the fluid back into the joint and once again it becomes stiff.

    It was only around the end of week 6 where it seemed the amount of excess fluid and swelling had subsided to a level that didn't necessitate constant knee pumps to maintain a modicum of looseness in the joint. At this time flexibility also increased dramatically, where I could pull the leg up to a 40* acute angle. Still not quite able to sit on my haunches comfortably but its getting there.

    Currently I am able to manage a slow jog for brief distances although I'll admit my current gait leaves much to be desired :P. On the visible side of things the swelling has resided to the point where one side of my kneecap is slowly becoming distinguishable. My quadriceps just now starting to retake some definition although its still early days.

    One point of concern however is the rheumatologist's recommendation for a yttrium-90 injection to ablate the rest of the synovium. Truth be told I am rather hesitant to proceed with this advice as while it essentially removes the possibility of a regrowth in the knee, the line of thought is that the full destruction of the synovium will deprive nutrients in the synovial fluids feeding the joint cartilage thus increasing the likelihood of developing arthritis later in life. I will have to get a second opinion on this as the injection and all its consequences is for keeps.

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    Hello there, I've been suffering with PVNS of the left knee for over 12 years and have had 7 operations which have all been open front and back surgery - painful but better than before! The PVNS consistently comes back but less and slower each time. It’s good to know I'm not alone on the PVNS journey!...has anyone had a PVNS related knee operation and managed to recover enough to do simple fitness jobs/runs if so can you recommend any knee supports?

    many thanks in advance.

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      hi W - my god poor you, that is nearly one surgery a year - I just got diagnosed with diffuse PVNS in knee, also outside knee - I need to do same surgery as you - open back and arthro front - how was your pain after surgery? Has it massively helped or did PVNS just come back quickly and aggressively? I only have mild pain but when i am active it can get bad and knee blows up (with sport) - thanks for your details on how it all was and whether you would go for such a big op (I was told that in my case risk of coming back is large and it is very likely) - thanks a lot, Barbara
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      How long after your surgery until you were able to walk without crutches.

       

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      I used crutches the first couple of weeks then used a cane the remains time. It's been two months since my surgery and I'm no longer using either. I hope you have a speedy recovery Katie.

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    I live in California and am now 75 years of age. about 15 years ago I badly sprained my ankle and it remained sore for maybe a year, then started to swell at the top, front, about the size of a goose egg. My podiatrist drained it (yellow fluid) but it filled up again in a couple of weeks. It was decided to remove the 'bump' but turned out to be a spongy growth which I was told was PVNS. The surgery was out-patient with little pain, on crutches for about 2 weeks leaving a 3-4 inch scar. It healed OK but the ankle has been sore ever since.A year later, had an MRI which showed joint damage in the ankle and my Dr. said it would not get better and gradually get worse, which is what has happened. The PVNS has not come back and I can walk OK but no jogging or other strenuous activity. My ankle swells after I've been on it all day but it works and for that I am thankful.
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    Hi. My 17 year old son has just been diagnosed yesterday with pvns. So was surprised to find that this condition tends to be more common in the 30 to 40 age bracket. To be honest the consultant was quite vague as to any dos and donts with this condition, so here I am looking for any info and help I can get.

    He had said he wants to see my son again in 3 months to see how he is getting on, and that at some stage he would probably be taking a look inside his knee!!!!

    There hadnt been an injury to speak of but he had done lots of football and cycling through the summer last year the swellung started around a month after he stopped!

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    Hi everyone! I've posted before but just to bring everyone up to speed. I am 21 years old from New Jersey. I have extra articular PVNS (combination of both) in my left knee. I have had two open/arthroscopic procedures, my first was a partial synovectimy on 12.22.2010. My second open surgery was 1.8.2013, so just over a year ago. The first three months was rough, I was in a brace that locked at 80 degrees (if I'm remembering correctly) couldn't do much because of the brace. Four months after surgery my pain returned. Just found out in December that my PVNS was back, and it came back only four months after surgery. I have not gotten another surgery because it has only been a year since my last and I do not want to put my body through another procedure. It makes my life hard because I can not do too much as some days walking is difficult. I have some good days and some bad. Has anyone been able to find a pain reliever that works? I have not been able to.
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    hello i am shakir, 29 years old from pakistan and i have been suffering from PVNS for the lass 10years, however it took about 8 years to diagnose through MRI. i have swelling in my right knee and occasionally i m having pain but with pain killed i m very comfortable in joging and playing cricket or any other sport except soccer. could any one advise me to continue with the same routine or should i go for open surgery

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