PVNS: experience and causes
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I recently got diagnosed with the fairly rare condition called Pigmented villonodular synovitis (PVNS) a disorder which affects joints. In my case, it was my knee joint, as is often the case.
I'm posting this to help others better identify and understand this condition, and also to explore any possible causes.
PVNS is very easily misdiagnosed by GP's. It was misdiagnosed twice in my case, by two different doctors.
Because it's more common in the 30's and 40's age group, and the symptoms are similar to arthritis, it can be misdiagnosed as the early onset of arthritis of the knee/joint in people who are in the upper end of this age bracket.
In the case of the PVNS affecting the knee joint which results in a tumour growth at the back of the knee (as in my own situation), because the condition often arises after a trauma to the knee joint, the condition can be misdiagnosed as a simple lingering knee injury, leaking joint fluid, giving rise to a Bakers Cyst.
The symptoms of PVNS are both sporadic and very similar to both an ordinary knee injury and arthritis as the condition progresses. The joint becomes stiff and movement restricted. It's usually painless in the early stages but as it progresses it causes mild to moderate discomfort with a persistent burning pain around the joint area.
If left untreated, PVNS in its advanced stages, can render the joint completely unusable, requiring a complete joint replacement.
Here's my own experience of PVNS:
I was taking Tramadol (a painkiller) for back pain and was heavily into exercise and was also carrying a heavy bicycle every day up and down stairs. I injured my knee. This was due to the Tramadol I believe. My pain tolerance threshold was at a much higher level, so the injury didn't fully register and I continued exercising and carrying the bicycle, further straining the already injured knee.
Two years later, the knee joint gradually became stiffer and a lump appeared at the back of the knee. It became so stiff I could no longer crouch or bend down to tie my shoe laces. I went to the doctor and was misdiagnosed as mentioned. The second GP ruled out arthritis from an x-ray and to confirm his diagnosis of a leaking joint and Bakers Cyst, he requested an ultrasound scan of the joint. The scan showed an overgrowth on the lining of the knee joint and a tumour growth, resulting in a PVNS diagnosis by an orthopedic consultant.
A proof-positive diagnosis is carried out from sample by examining cells under the microscope from the joint which have the typical PVNS-like abnormal characteristic.
There's two forms of PVNS, localised and diffused. The localised version is what I have. It is a lot easier to treat using key-hole surgery with a better prognosis for recovery. Diffused PVNS affects the entire joint lining, requiring open surgery to remove all of the knee lining and it has a much higher risk (almost 50%) of returning, and requiring extensive physiotherapy.
PVNS is quite a rare condition as I mentioned. Therefore it's not encountered very much by GP's and there hasn't been much research done into the causes of the condition or why it returns in many sufferers. It's not thought to be hereditary, and as I mentioned, trauma to the affected joint is a common feature.
This leads me to wonder if certain medicines, or activities, may cause the condition. As I mentioned, in my own case I was taking Tramadol (at a normal dose of 50mg once daily) for several years, both prior to, and after my knee injury.
I'd be interested to hear from anyone else out there who suffers with PVNS and their backgrounds, in particular:
Anyone who has developed PVNS while being on Tramadol or similar drugs?
Anyone who has developed PVNS after a sports or work related injury, which they ignored?
How much time elapsed from any initial injury to PVNS symptoms and diagnosis?
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tasha93362 morphix
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the problem I have at the minute is my orth doctor won't do surgey and has passed me onto rheumatology doctor which I have been waiting nearly 4 months for an appointment and still nothing. I have recently been we're I struggle to walk cause my knee was swollen and I couldn't bend it without been in pain but having to go through it and walk throughout the day because I'm at uni on my final year and can't afford to miss anything so I went to a&he where the doctor sent me for an X-ray cause she thought I'd broken my knee cap which I hadn't it was just the selling pvns causes I was then sent to a doctor who drained the fluid and pumped in some steroid which has made my knee feel normal again and pain free for a month but now I can already feel the pain gradually coming back.
what is worrying me though and wondered if anyone else has been told this when I was diagnosed with pvns in my right knee my doctor said there's a high possibility that I also have it in my left knee but it's not as progressed.the
Jackie011228 morphix
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Worringly I have something behind my kneww now so will be investigating that with the Doctor this week and if it does turn out to be PVNS I will request Radiotherapy again. Just thought it was worth mentioning to people to investigate.
Oldfatguy1 Jackie011228
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ruth60925 morphix
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I reckon I have had this knee problem stretching back quite a few years but the swelling (quite spectacular sometimes extending half way up my thigh with my leg in a half-bent spasm when it bleeds 3-4 times a year. At the moment it is not bad and I can fully straighten but not bend fully. My knee never locks, is always hot to the touch but not particularly painful.
Today I saw my MRI and was told it was the diffused type of PVNS. The tumour is in the middle, at the back and extending at the front of my knee and above. My affected knee is less swollen at the moment but 6cm larger in circumference than the other.
Tonight, I thought that it would be better to have the surgery afterall I don't want my joint damaged by this and although there is a 50% chance of it coming back there is obviously a 50% chance of it not.....
I had not anticipated the pain and rehabilitation from the surgery option. I have made a strong commitment to a medical project that I have agreed to for the next 18 months so I am guessing I need to hold off with surgery? Do you think that this is wise? Thanks
Oldfatguy1 ruth60925
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barbara79687 ruth60925
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missy122385 morphix
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jane05932 missy122385
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Having cortisone/steroid injection soon to reduce the swelling and discomfort. My consultant is dithering about how to treat this. Wasted 3 months waiting to see rheumatology who then advised they couldn't / Wouldn't treat me as they believed it was a surgical procedure.
In constant pain and the more activity (everyday walking) I have to do due to having to work etc the more I seem to suffer. I feel better when resting but obviously can't sit on my bum all day!!
Do you find this or have you any advice on how to control the symptoms?
I keep having episodes where I really struggle to even weight-bear.
your advice would be greatly appreciated.
Oldfatguy1 jane05932
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12 yrs later I still have a little of the tumor in me growing as it is to dangerous to remove. This is not a simple repair with a one time cure, in most cases. I certainly hope you are one of the lucky ones that can get it resolved with one treatment.
barbara79687 jane05932
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jane05932 barbara79687
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I think that surgery is the only option then.
what meds are you on if you don't mind me asking?
TBH I think I'm gonna have to consider the TKR.. I have the partial knee replacement and still have this awful PVNS in the same joint.
just wanna get it sorted and get back to normal.
jane05932 Oldfatguy1
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Oldfatguy1 jane05932
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mattiemouse morphix
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It has only been 8 weeks since the op but I am already feeling the benefits.and for the first time in years am walking pain free.
I found Tramadol just made me hallucinate and didn't help at all. It has been recommended that I take a long term daily dose of ibuprofen
Oldfatguy1 mattiemouse
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mattiemouse Oldfatguy1
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I had never heard of this condition and was expecting to be right back on track after my TKR. Hey ho! I remain optomistic (or is that the drugs speaking?)
Oldfatguy1 mattiemouse
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