Quercetin + Bromelain and Flower Pollen for BPH ...
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Greetings to my Brothers in Suffering, I'm 65 years old and was diagnosed eight years ago with BPH. For the past eight years I've been prescribed Avodart and once-daily Cialis. Intermittently over the past eight years, I've tried to give up these pharmaceuticals and try supplements. Sadly, I had eventually had to go back on Avodart and Cialis. DISCLAIMER: I'VE TRIED EVERY KNOWN SUPPLEMENT UNDER THE SUN. Some seem to work better than others.
BREAKTHROUGH; While it's too soon to tell (14 days), Quercetin + Bromelain and Flower Pollen have made a noticeable difference. Nocturia is down to twice per night, as opposed to six or seven times in the past. If you're relatively new to the joys of BPH, and you're on the fence about maybe trying a supplement, then you may want to consider the above. It's my intent to follow up on this post three months from now on August 17. Final note, I'm so grateful to the guys on here for sharing what they know.
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ramblin alan1951
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Supplements are mostly very frustrating. You are correct about a 3 month evaluation period - that's about how long it takes to notice any difference. My mix is pumpkin seed oil, pygeum extract, and stinging nettle extract - the effect is minor, going from 5 per night to 4 per night.
alan1951 ramblin
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That's interesting, ramblin. Have tried those identical three supplements. The question begs - are they marginally effective, or would my symptoms have been much worse without them? What's the one phrase we always hear about supplements? "Results are inconclusive." Well that tells me that while said supplements don't necessarily work for me, they may be VERY efficacious for the next guy. Moreover, I just think Big Pharma is threatened by the supplement industry, and to be fair, the supplement industry itself probably needs to clean up its act and do a little self policing.
cartoonman alan1951
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Hey, Alan!
Have you considered CIC (cathing)? I'm sure you've seenthe many, many comments abou this.
I had a short-term (2-3months) effective Urolift 18 months back, and returned to CIC when it went form a torrent to a dribble, to nothing. When I watch my fluids intake in the evening, I cath at night, draining the bladder fully, and then don't get up until 7:00am. On those nights when I've been careless or have wine, I do have that middle-o-the-night pee session. Even that once-up experience affects my overall sleep experience...and it REALLY makes me appreciate the benefit of cathing, and sleeping through the night! I manage that 2/3 of the time, according to my "pee log." At 68, I consider this the upside of BPH! :-)
Your mileage may, of course, vary! :-D
alan1951 cartoonman
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Haven't tried CIC ... YET! But I do believe it's a worthwhile skill to know and have at your disposal. Coincidentally enough, I'm in paramedic training, but for guys with acute urinary retention, we just do a "load and go," and let the ER do the rest. Hey! If I can help somebody else out of a jam, then that's what I'll do.
cartoonman alan1951
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I would be interested to hea what they teach you re CIC; it might interest others as well. My experiences with my uro-doc's assistants were rather different from what I have learned on my own, and what I've learned from Jim James and others here...
Jezzaman alan1951
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I am very interested in researching supplements/natural products and have tried Saw Palmetto and Stinging Nettle root which I am sure make a difference.
Now keen to try the products you mention, I have heard good things about Quercetin also. Can you tell me where you buy them please? You may have to inbox me as this Forum tends to stop people passig on URLS for some reason.
THanks very much.
alan1951 Jezzaman
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hank1953 alan1951
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alan1951 hank1953
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dennis47445 alan1951
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My friend, says that he takes betasitosterol, that he buys from the "Vitamin Shop" It's really inexpensive, around $8,00 for 120 tablets. The direction, says to take one a day, but he takes 4 a day. From 6 to 8 times a night, I think he said that he has to go once or twice a night.
He used to try the supplements, that had all kinds of ingredients, but found that just the simple, betasitosterol, works best for him.
alan1951 dennis47445
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I would rank betasitosterol highly, but your friend is exactly right to take four per day. That's how I did it, and though the results were inconclusive with four pills, they were totally ineffective taking one to two pills per day.
uncklefester alan1951
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alan1951 uncklefester
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Not yet, my friend. I want to give these supplements a fighting chance. If they DON'T work, then I'm looking at the least invasive procedure - maybe a Urolift, probably this summer.
frank74205 alan1951
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If there is kindly tell me . I was taken avodart and flomax. Now iI do CIC, no more pills .
I would gladly go back to the medicine if i could get a natural void without surgery?
Frank,
alan1951 frank74205
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A supplement to take you out of retention? Probably not. Tamsulosin is an alpha blocker and if anything is going to relax the bladder neck muscles and the prostate itself, it's probably going to be tamsulosin. I can't be sure about the following, but I do believe there is one pill that combines avodart along WITH tamsulosin, but the name escapes me. The guys on here that have implemented CIC have nothing but praise for it. If that's what you're doing, and it works for you, stick with it..