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Can I ask anyone who have been diagnosed with aortic aneurysm did you have symptoms before the diagnosis

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    I was checked in the January 2011 and then it was 1cm.  I was already experiencing Periferal Arterial Disease which is narrowing of the arteries - I was told smoking was the most likely cause. The only symptom I had was bad circulation in my legs.   I took ill over a period of a week ultimately I collapsed.  I was diagnosed with salmonella sepsis food poisoning with blood poisoning - this was late July 2011.  After improving I told them about the ultra sound check for the aneurysm.  I was eventually taken one morning and had another ultrasound - I saw the figure of 5.3 being scribbled on a piece of scrap paper.   This was on a friday morning - on Monday I was visited by the surgical team - I collapsed in their presence.  The aortic had ruptured,  I was resussetated and taken to surgery-my family were told people in my condition post op do mot "usually survive".    I had no warnings at all and was sitting in a wheelchair when I collapsed.
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      Oh that is so scary. . I hope you are doing ok now . Did you smoke at the time .Its a good job you were in the hospital at the time  .
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    Sure was scary - I am a bit damaged - memory - mobility - speech - balance.   but I am alive - the experts opinion was the the week of vomiting considerably exsasibated the problem as usually it takes years to get to an operable stage.  I had given up smoking the year before but the damage to my vascular system PAD Periferal Arterial Disease - just like the advert with the gunge coming out of an "artery" - The nurse said without an intervention it takes about 4 minutes and there is no return to become terminal.   I think probably the 26 units of blood helped with the sepsis (blood poisoning) as transfusion isn't a treatment for it.  I try to live normally but at least I know passing in that way is painless and quick lol   
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      The drugs will be part of the reason for memory loss and unsteady on the pins, there is many things they do not inform you of which you will discover? There are a few better dedicated sites for sufferers like us search my work site to get my email at Harris building and maintenance in southampton as most are on FB bit a must to get info direct from those who have are going through what you are experiencing I will look out for it and fill the rest of the info in then as this site is moderated and would be deleted if I give it direct Jim.
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      I fully acknowledge the need for more sites like this and thank you for the information and reply for correction on my part due to the fact I had noted some comments being deleted and noted the main persons being Doctors whom predominantly may practice or have practiced within that frame work and the fact the site carries N.H.S England standard of practice award, in your own words, the editorial team are employed to create accurate and up-to-date content reflecting reliable research evidence, guidance and best clinical practice to which that standard would be awarded, though I acknowledge the site is not funded by Gov or acting direct under N.H.S policy’s but by private investments and company adverts. Hence in hindsight you are correct, I should have researched more accurately and not made comments as an assumption.

        My comments was said from my own personal experience including that of other suffers of aortic dissection and aneurisms when dealing with established authority’s, G.P’s and consultants as we do experience a ‘need to know’ base of information from these sorces or are talked down regarding the after effects of the these devastating attack’s which can come across as higher criticism which the impute is poor in support hence rely more from specialist forums out of desperation to cope with the dramatic change physically, mentally or financially needed help for without group support from experienced suffers whom are unmoderated with out this I and others would would be none the wiser of what, when, how or whom to go too, yet all whom have survived do have the uttermost respect for surgeons and emergency departments within the N.H.S or other outside of the Uk, but the aftercare, advise or guidance woefully falls far short of expectancy, which with respect, as consultants or G.P’s, I hope you feel should never be the case when the suffer has already so much to deal with out of the blue in most cases as signs where not picked up or connected together by their G.Ps prior to the attack but treated as separate issues in a high proportion of cases is a fact.  But I do offer my apologies for my misunderstanding in the hope you can see how the assumption or connection was wrongfully made.

      Lastly, As to establishment's logic or advise which any suffer would have experienced with total frustration adding to their stress in the fact we are all so different, no one answer will suit anthers position, hence I noted, you do moderate this according to your ‘terms and conditions’ rather than trust the reader to decide options ‘available’ to them, there lies the problem of suspicion perhaps when a doctor feels any extra information or choice is unhelpful or as you state ‘not In the best clinical practice’ yet that conclusion has not always been found to be the case as I can personally fully testify too, as with diagnosis, which G.Ps do get things wrong as noted, but ‘best practice’ was applied during that consultation period as to guide lines set, until too late for that individual and most do not survive.  

      Conclusion is: There is always two sides to a coin which needs to be joined but the medical profession is historicaly a closed position, humility would help to see the problem that suffers are drawing attention too which is my aim as a suffer and the end user of these services with a view to improve communication and options.

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    Dear Joyce, 

    I'm new to these forums and I latched onto YOUR "discussion" forum....

    Perhaps I should start my own because I would also like to know about others having a similar aortic aneurysm as myself. More specifically, I have a thoracic aortic arch aneurysm.   I'm grateful that I haven't had a rupture or the aortic dissection etc. that I've heard from your replies... Apparently, most aortic aneurysms are AAA ( Abdominal aortic aneurysms)...I erroneously said I had that had that... I thought AAA also stood for aortic arch aneurysm!!...oh well

     I'm from Cambridge, Ontario Canada...

    The Symptoms before my diagnosis, were without my knowing I had it of course.  As I already said, my aortic aneurysm had grown to 8 cm when it was discovered.  

    You asked if we had symptoms?  ( I was told of cases that had reached 10 cm in the same area ...and that the closer to the heart; the size considered for surgical readiness becomes a smaller number, unless of course one has acute, life threatening signs & symptoms, in which case it doesn't matter what size or location!!!)

    Well, though the location & size of my AA made me an immediate surgical candidate, my symptoms obviously weren't " life threatening" but they were still symptoms! Sooo I just wanted to share that with you and your followers....

    i had spasmodic coughing, hoarse voice and voice loss and a feeling of a lump in my throat when swallowing...etc.  all of which were becoming too frequent, such that I finally made an appointment for a medical check up in the fall of 2013.

    At this point,  I hadn't had a full check up since 1997.... 

    In retrospect, I actually had a few episodes of very painful to the point of unbearable epigastric distress that took hours to recover....I don't know if that was part of it ???  

    The reason that I had those symptoms and at times a strangulating feeling was because  I also had a congenital, "Aberrant Origin of the Right Subclavian Artery" which added to the complication of my situation, in that this artery was sitting on top of my aneurysm.  The left and right subclavian arteries are two major blood vessels that supply oxygenated blood to the upper limbs and chest of the body and brain.   My right subclavian artery was abnormally routed to my right arm having to wrap around the esophagus and trachea...pressing on the nerve innervating my vocal chords.... I have to keep referring to my medical reports which I kept copies...

    The left subclavian artery feeding my left arm was ALSO on top of this same saccular type aneurysm, which ballooned out from the aortic arch area closer to the descending aorta.  Horrific in my mind was that I was facing my mortality, once again, as this was over the same site that I had a surgical repair forty years ago for a "coarctation of the aorta", a narrowing on the aortic arch area on my 19th birthday.  The right subclavian artery was not re-implanted to it's proper origin on the arch because in 1974 it was risky enough dealing with one anomaly and it was an open surgery...

    For my present scenario, I had "elective" surgery in less than two months from the time of my diagnosis...I opted for the Stent/ an Endovascular Repair far less risky than the open surgery option from which they told me I had a 50% chance of survival because of the other anomalies...It was a rather awful & horrifying description of things that could happen and of things that would happen including being left with one functioning lung, because I have a portion of my Lung attached to the aortic arch, kind of like an internal adhesion from the previous surgery...

    If I survived, it would be a long hospital stay...a long painful time  recovering...

    I was told that I could have a major stroke, rupture,  become brain dead, lose a lung, become paralyzed etc...

    It wasn't a pretty picture....and yet there's no saying how long this stent is good for either!!

     ...but there's likely to be better techniques yet to come in the future....sooo I went with the a Stent option... 

    The open end surgery I had, dealt with reattaching my subclavian arm arteries to my carotid arteries at the neck level...

    I just remember that during those two months of knowing what I was dealing with, I was afraid to move, turn in bed  or cough or sneeze etc... 

    I wasn't allowed to carry more than ten pounds..

    I had thought...geez.....all this time, I was cycling up hills, shovelling snow...being a caregiver for my late husband in our own home, he had Parkinson's and was in a wheelchair and then looking after my now, 91 year " young" mum with her numerous past calamities!!!  

    I had just done a huge major task of decluttering my Toronto home ...selling, and then moving to my present home....where I have a lot of yard work and gardening that I got much involved with....???

    I didn't smoke nor drink much...ate healthy....I never had high blood pressure fortunately...

    Perhaps that helped?... I don't know??

    I'm back doing all the activities I did before and I'm off the beta blockers, though one of the cardiac physicians felt I should be on it always...BUT it made my BP too low even at the low dose etc. I felt too tired, had vertigo and would get cross-eyed vision!

    My thoracic cardiac surgeon told me this..." Your aneurysm is fixed, but until we have some long-term data, we don't know how the rest of your aorta will progress and reducing the shear forces on your aorta is helpful. I don't think you are at higher risk for aneurysm formation elsewhere, but the area of the repair may be vulnerable...." 

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    Hi joycemadine, i have thoracic aortic aneurysm,4.8 cm. Before I learned about it I easily feel exhausted,even a short walk and i have hypertension as well.
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    Anacetrapib is a cholesteryl ester transfer protein inhibitor that raises high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol and reduces low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol.  The below studies indicate that a higher HDL cholesterol level will not only prevent Aortic Aneurysm but actually induce programmed cell death in order to replace the walls of a failing Aorta.  Anacetrapib is only one example of this type of drug, evidence shows it may raise HDL cholesterol and induce these beneficial effects but it is important to note three other analogues proved ineffective.  In general raising HDL cholesterol is an appropriate strategy to fight heart disease.

    http://www.ahjonline.com/article/S0002-8703%2808%2900828-4/abstract?cc=y=

    Anacetrapib reduces progression of atherosclerosis, mainly by reducing non-HDL-cholesterol, improves lesion stability and adds to the beneficial effects of atorvastatin

    It's in phase 3 clinical trials right now.  They won't submit an application for FDA approval until at least 2018.  Basically it lowers your LDL cholesterol and raises your HDL cholesterol by inhibiting CETP.  We should consider getting it now instead.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130306084157.htm

    The study, led by researchers from St George's, University of London, found that elevating the amount of HDL cholesterol in the abdominal area of the aortic artery in mice both reduced the size of aneurysms that had already grown and prevented abdominal aortic aneurysms from forming at all.

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      Interesting article. How can we in the meantime indrease our HDL?
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      Hi Derek,

      The usual healthy foods are recommended and this is what comes up if you google it.

      Oatmeal. Fiber, especially soluble fiber, can help bump up your HDL while reducing LDL. Oatmeal is an excellent source of soluble fiber, as is rice, bran, barley, dried peas and beans, and certain fruits like prunes and apples. A couple servings a day of these heart-healthy foods can have a positive effect on your HDL.

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      I find that nowadays many of the fibres give me indigestion. I recently switched from my normal cereal to Shredded Wheat with that consequence and also stopped prunes to bring down my blood glucose level.

      At one time many years ago I used to take a lot of bran to help with diverticulitis. We once had a house that was built on the site of an old orchard and had some of the old original trees that I also added to until we had 26. Now I am amazed at the price of apples in the UK.

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