REAL CONFUSION OVER IF PIPS AND ESA ARE THE SAME DEPARTMENT

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I was awarded two years of PIPS back in May but due to a new circumstance of just having had shoulder surgery my ESA STOPPED the day of my operation due to an unfair assessment to do with a frozen shoulder that needed surgery as it had became a full tendon tear and Fibromyalgia for 8 years, done a month before.Does this affect PIPS? I have been told I have to.give more evidence post.op as I now have a new claim going through for Esa . Also updating the PIPS case. The DWP were.given.all these 30 pieces of documentary evidence for a.Mandatory Reconsideration . They are now saying they want all the papers again and these papers apparently cannot be photocopies!!!!!!!!! Why do they make life so difficult for us even when we have enough to deal. With already! !!!!!!!!

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    I am not sure if this iss infect yet, but ESA and PIP Assessments will all be done together. What this means to claimant is if they fail on either they lose both.

    It does not seem fair but thats the new Government for you. The idea was to clear the back log much quicker doing it this way. But as you can see there is other reasons behind it.

    All claims now are PIP only, no more DLA claims are being done. All current DLA Claimants will be changed over to PIP.

    The DWP are no longer doing PIP by Post Codes, either its all chosen at random.

    All DLA Claims which are currently "Indefinite" current DLA claims will be last to be done, all should be cleared by 2017.

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      I heard todaythat I gave won my case on both Pips and Esa. They both have different assessments
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      At the moment, this was in Benefits & Work letter, published last week.

      The whole lot will soon be Universal Credit apart from PIP, which sounds strange if you lose ESA and PIP at the same time.

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      Really? I thought UC was only covering Income Supp, JSA, ESA, HB, WTC and CTC.
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    Everyone is right to suspect the Governments agenda and I'm sure there is some truth in ESA/PIP being eventually assessed at the same time.

    However, the criteria will have to remain separate as one benefit assesses your for fitness for work and the other assesses your daily care/mobility needs.

    PIP is an in work benefit so unless the law is changed to huge up roar then you do-not necessarily need to be too 'sick' to work as is the case with ESA.

    That said you wouldn’t put anything past David Cameron and that complete  B****** Ian Duncan-Smith

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      Don't the two go together ability to work and daily care /mobility needs? In my case I was on permitted work before the. Operation on my shoulder as I could not lift anything heavy. They knew and had approved this. It was only when I got to the assessment that things changed. The assessment is an utter joke and totally irrelevant to people in my case who do not soil themselves as can happen with Fibromyalgia.I have the opposite problem under IBS. Also with a frozen shoulder the accessor could see I was in pain when asked to raise my right shoulder. I was not allowed to interject any relevant information they needed at the time related to my case. I was shocked at how cold hearted.these people are. It has opened my eyes.to the whole rottten process.It is the benefits cheats who have made it so hard for truly needy and deserving people. I was driven to unecessary stress and tears.At a time I that I am trying to convalesce from a serious shoulder operation. To be hauled into my local job centre after having my stitches removed.Was very painful for me.Who can we complain to independentally of the DWP??
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      Anthony, you are in my good books on this government, or dictatorship.

      The PIP/ESA waas mentioned in the latest copy of Benefits and Work email, which is a free subscription. It is not yet implemented, but IDS did mention it to close the gap and number of assessments, at the current rate, which we found was not being done fast enough, he wants assessments to increase to at least 200 per day.

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