Recently diagnosed with HFS...completely confused...
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I have recently been diagnosed with hemifacial spasms. My neurologist actually got to see them first hand recently, and until then he thought what I described to him were likely to be another form of epileptic seizures (I have simple partial seizures). The spasms started with twitches by my left eye every few weeks or so, but they have progressed over the past few months to happening every day and ranging from a small twitch by my eye to taking over the entire left side of my face from the eye to my chin – at times I can’t open my eye due to the spasms. It is really distressing. I had an MRI done which my neurologist said showed nothing. However, I was in hospital in late 2012 for a migraine and an MRI done then found that I had a torturous artery – I can’t remember the name, but it is the same artery that can press on the nerve that triggers hemifacial spasms. I’ve started having botox injections, which I hate as my face is a bit droopy (not very visibly, but I can feel it and my smile is lopsided now) and I’m waking up choking at night (but I don’t know if this is coincidence or actually caused by botox), and I’m still getting spasms (it’s almost a week since the injections). I’ve also read that botox stops the spasms, but not long term and they will progressively get worse. So, my questions…does an MRI always pick up arteries pressing on nerves? Does anyone else find they wake up choking after having botox injections? And what do I do now – continue with botox, talk to my doctor about surgery, put a bag over my face, take up a career doing Elvis impersonations? Sorry to sound flippant, but seriously if I don’t laugh sometimes I’ll cry and/or scream. Thanks everyone...
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clare04574 katebet1974
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I was diagnosed early this year with right sided hemifacial spasms and since then they have become progressively worse affecting the whole side of my face and like you my eye closed fully. My neurologist referred me for
Botox which I had in June and they were awful for me, they think I must be sensitive to them as the doses given were very small. Like you I experienced droopiness in my face especially my top lip I couldn't pout or even smile. (I've got a bag on standby :-) ) although never experienced the choking that you explain.
In my opinion Botox will only lessen the spasm not totally stop them all the time you continue with the injections. I wasn't prepared to have these done for the rest of my life as I was worried I'd end up with a totally frozen face eventually. Didn't know what would be worse.
I went back to the consultant and asked about surgery which I was referred to a neurosurgeon in Southampton General Hospital and I had this appointment last week. I have been lucky in that the surgery is an option for me.
My MRI does show some blood vessels but not enough to show how they are lying on the nerve. My surgeon has told me that he will only know more once I'm opened up, however if it looks like their position is awkward he will just stitch me back up.
I think you should talk to the dr who gave you Botox to ask about the choking. Read through the discussions in hi
clare04574
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Read through the discussions on this site they are very helpful and provide lots of information and opinions..it's helpful to know you are not alone.
Maybe ask your neurologist to explain the operation MVD and all the risks associated with the operations and then make a decision based on what's right for you. They are several on here that have had the operation and are totally spasm free now.
Good luck with your journey and all the best.
katebet1974 clare04574
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WindHurt clare04574
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I've had this horrible condition for quite a few years. The constriction of the eye and pulling of the face on the affected side is the most unbearable for quite a few years now.
I feel that an MRI is an unnecessary call for this condition as HFS has been well documented; it is the fix that we are after. An MRI cost S$800, and reveal next to nothing except "tortuosity" of vessels!
I have given up Botox as it weakens the muscles giving rise to a palsied face. While Botox block the nerve signals to the contracting muscles, it does nothing to relieve the pulsation inside the ear, which worsen with anxiety and angulation of the head. In my case, in which the left side is the spasmodic side, turning towards the left make things worse and turning to towards the right relieves it.
The smile becomes lopsided in time; one side is like Cheshire cat. One brow is higher than the other.
Acupuncture and Cupping has not helped. I find temporary relief by hanging with straight arms to a bar set on door frames and turning the head (something I mentioned in a reply to another sufferer here.
I have also written to a South Korean clinic which recorded a cure for this but did not receive any reply. They use moxibustion, but I have not made contact with them again.
Old as I am, 64, I have come to accept life without botox ( S$200 every 4 months ) . Fewer social activities, and lots of golf games is good enough to carry on for me. I think its better not to continue with botox for the limited symptomatic relief it provides.
Until such time Osteopathy finds a cure, good luck to your MVD intentions.
In UK there are so many qualified Osteopaths. I feel that someone will get a breakthrough one day.
Hoping to read more from others in this community. Do share your good fortune here please.
clare04574 WindHurt
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Thank you for your reply. Everything you describe is exactly the same for me.
We are very lucky here with the NHS although waiting times are increased :-) I am now on the waiting list for MVD surgery and hopefully planned for about 3 months. Feeling rather anxious now but trying to put it to the back of my mind until I know a date. Let's just hope they can sort it. I so desperately want to old me back. I have socially withdrawn avoid photos at all times and I can't even look at the person talking face to face with me. This isn't me, I used to be so outgoing. Willing to try anything now.
I'll be sure to keep updating the forum in my journey and good luck with yours
Williamsmummy4 katebet1974
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not an option (not 100% sure if I have been told correctly but it seems plausible that you cant operate on something not seen) so evetually once my mri results are known I too
will be offered botox which I will try but I it doesnt agree with everyone and the effectiveness does eventually fade. I think surgery will eventually have to happen but does it all depend on finding that compression on an mri? The
problem is I have 2 young children to care for so resting
after surgery would be a problem for me. I go to the hemi
facial international support group on facebook, you get great support from everyone in the group, join up!
caroline
katebet1974 Williamsmummy4
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clare04574 Williamsmummy4
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ed_92085 katebet1974
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You don't say how long the time period has been between you first noticing the twitch and your diagnosis, but from your post, it doesn't sound a long time, so well done for not letting the grass grow and letting this distressing malady stun you into inertia. Apart from Elvis impersonating (a crowded market!) you sound like you are well into the process of considering your options-one of which is surgery. My own opinion would be that once you find out that you definitely have HFS, finding out as much as you can about surgery is the way to go. Once you gain the necessary knowledge about MVD, it's likely you'll start asking questions like "How do I go about having this?" and " Who are the best surgeons in the field?" As you will note from the other helpful posts on this forum and other international/ facebook ones, this is the one proven way of consigning HFS to history. Botox is a sticking plaster which can work for some. It rather depends on whether you are content with continuing temporary fixes or feel that you want to get right to the root of the problem. This can only be decided by you. The decision to have surgery, whilst never an easy one, is not something I've regretted for an instant. I wish you all the very best. Please draw comfort from the many folks with an intuitive understanding of how you're feeling who are regular visitors to this and other internet sites. Your sense of humour will also help you, but its clear thinking and evidence based decision making that are key.
P.S re your question about botox and choking
Prior to surgery, I had botox injections every three months for eight years ( very minimal amounts as I had the problems with lopsidedness to which you allude), but I dont recall any night choking being associated wth these treatments.
Take care
Ed
katebet1974 ed_92085
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ed_92085 katebet1974
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Best
Ed