REZUM--HAVE YOU HAD THIS DONE???????
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I had a nice conversation today with the President of the "Urology Times". He was telling me that there is a "New Procedure" that has been approved called the "REZUM SYSTEM". The company that makes the system is called "NXThera, Inc". You can google them up and lots of stuff comes up. I called them for a referral and they gave me a Doctor in Minnepolis that has done it over 50 times now. I called his nurse and she said he would call me back and answer my questions on monday. As you guys probably know Doctors are not very good at returning calls but we'll see what happens. Iam not very good at explaining how the procedure works but basically they take the device and put it up the uretha and vaporize the prostate cells which kills them. It works with high pressure "steam" that at a certain degree will kill the prostate tissue. My question for you guys is there anybody out there that has had it done to them and how are you getting along and are there "side effects", etc etc?????
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ross42399 ChuckP
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paul46026 ross42399
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ross42399 paul46026
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paul46026 ross42399
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I am noticing that my stream has really improved. I am not straining at all when I pee, and the flow is strong. I am still on one flomax per day down from two and will be getting off it, but I truly believe the rezum has made the difference.
I have noticed that I do not have a heaviness with the urethra since I am able to pee so much better. I just feel a lot better since the Rezum and it is easier to go out and use a public restroom when you are not taking a large amount of time to urinate.
alan32163 paul46026
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paul46026 alan32163
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johnguild alan32163
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Alan, recovery seems to be all over the map, Some lke Paul are quick. to recover others not so much. I'm into 5 weeks and making progress but I'm still not there yet. Dragging around a foley with the bag strapped to my leg for the better part of 5 weeks has been a pain. Good thing I'm retired and can lay aound the house like a lazy butt; I would have had a tough time going to work with a foley... eeerr!! I'm looking at self cath options now. Good luck and keep us posted on yur situation.
oldbuzzard ross42399
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oldbuzzard johnguild
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John - I think when you start self cathing and trying to go naturally that you'll improve quickly. I think the foley is holding you back at this point - please let us know who you do.
ross42399 oldbuzzard
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When you say "off label", do you mean that some doctors are pushing the envelope of the guidelines or that it's done without insurance on prostates bigger than 80?
oldbuzzard ross42399
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It all depends on the doc and insurance company - but I know that there a lots of big prostates being treated now and its likely that the FDA will approve bigger ones soon.
ross42399 oldbuzzard
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Thanks a lot for the info. I am off to my appointment. Let's see what the uro says.
alan32163 oldbuzzard
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johnguild oldbuzzard
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Oldbuzzard, I've got a feeling that you may be right. I'll push the
doc to OK a self cath for me when I see him this Thursday.
Of course, if he does not support it then I'll take his guidance. He has
been my urologist for the last 15 years and, based on past
perforance, I have a lot of confidence in him.
The thing that I'm now excited about are clear signs that my recovery is
happening.
oldbuzzard johnguild
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oldbuzzard alan32163
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No, it shouldn't. There are lots of guys on this forum who have self cathed for years without needing antibiotics. Wipe the tip, use disposable caths or wash them well after and you shouldn't have a problem - if you do it will be 10 days on antibiotics and then you're done.
But if your still needing some kind of cath after 8 weeks there is something that isn't right, unless you had known bladder issues going in. I was a slow recoverer and was better than when I went in at 6 weeks. I suggest that they look into it - my guess (and I'm not a doctor, but this is new enough that the docs don't always know either) is that either you have an obstruction in your urethra or your bladder was shocked into non response. Both are treatable.
steve53523 ross42399
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Ross,
I had this done 3 days ago.. Took cath out this morning.. Incredible the difference.. nice strong stream.. Discomfort really has just been from the catheter being placed. I haven't been on any pain meds at all. Obviously it is still early, so we will see what time will bring. I had forgot what it was like to have a strong stream and not stand at the toilet for 5 minutes. I see my urologist on Monday for followup.. Im wondering how soon after this before I can try to ejaculate..
BobFL steve53523
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Steve, when you say "this," I assume you are talking about a Rezum procedure. Glad it went well for you but a quick heads-up. I had mine done in Jume and peed like a 25-year-old for 11 days post-cath. Then the swelling started.... on top of the swelling I picked up a UTI. Stream started to decrease and 3 1/2 weeks after the Rezum I was at the ER to get a cath because I completely shut down. Hopefully that won't happen for you but I was told (after the fact) that the swelling comes along 3 weeks post procedure. So if you feel yourself losing your stream, see your uro doc! Good luck! PS - everything has been great since 5 to 6 weeks post-procedure and I love the results.
steve53523 BobFL
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Thanks for the heads up! I'll pay attention for sure. I was wondering if I might be jinxing myself saying something so soon. Being in my early 50s and dealing with this for along time it was just great to see some pressure come from the hose, lol. I'll be sure to question my doctor about post procedure swelling. I am on an antibiotic for 4 more days so I hope that wards of infection.
johnguild steve53523
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Steve, that is good news for you. Based on what I have read on this blog, recovery is all over the map and depends on several things including the size of your prostat and number of injections. It was not until week 39 that I was told I no longer needed a catheter. During the better part of 5 weeks I cycled between foley catheter and no foley catheter (5 times). What would happen is that after the foley cath was removed I would go strong for several days and then my urethra would swell (?) and I'd be back in the uro office to get the foley cath reinstalled. Don't be disspointed if you relapse. If that does happen then consider asking for a self catheter; wearing a cath with a bag strapped to your leg is a pain. - good luck !!
ross42399 steve53523
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Hey Steve, glad it worked out for you so far and thanks a lot for sharing your experience so far with us. I saw my uro on Monday who told me that my prostate was "huge"! I am somewhere between 120g and 140g. He said that Rezum therapy for such a large prostate would be a challenge, mostly because of the extra amount of "sticks" required, thus potentially leading to too much bleeding impairing his ability to see through the scope. That being said, both he and the company think that putting me on 5mg Finasteride for a few weeks prior to the procedure would mitigate such a heavy bleed and make the procedure possible. Does anyone have any experience or information on this procedure for larger prostates?
johnguild ross42399
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ross42399 johnguild
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Hey John, sounds like a conservative guy. I heard that there are Rezum trials underway for larger prostates which are enjoying great success. However, I don't qualify as I had PAE 3 years ago.
Does anyone have any experience of information regarding Rezum on prostates > 80g?
robert81316 BobFL
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Hey Bob. I'm so similar to you in situation. Although I got checked and they put me on Augmentin. Right now I'm on day 29 and I feel as bad as pre procedure. I'm on Augmentin for 6 more days. Doc gave me 14 altogether because mine got so bad. I like my doc but all he told me was that I would feel like I had a UTI for two weeks. That's why I waited over a week to get checked. I thought it was normal, even after the bleeding started, 8 DAYS POST OP.
Did you ever feel pressure in your back side or behind your testicles? Thats the most annoying thing for me. The urge to pee comes and goes. But I can't gauge where I'm supposed to be right now since I got delayed by the UTI