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REZUM--HAVE YOU HAD THIS DONE???????

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ChuckP
ChuckP

I had a nice conversation today with the President of the "Urology Times". He was telling me that there is a "New Procedure" that has been approved called the "REZUM SYSTEM".  The company that makes the system is called "NXThera, Inc".  You can google them up and lots of stuff comes up.  I called them for a referral and they gave me a Doctor in Minnepolis that has done it over 50 times now.  I called his nurse and she said he would call me back and answer my questions on monday.  As you guys probably know Doctors are not very good at returning calls but we'll see what happens.  Iam not very good at explaining how the procedure works but basically they take the device and put it up the uretha and vaporize the prostate cells which kills them.  It works with high pressure "steam" that at a certain degree will kill the prostate tissue.  My question for you guys is there anybody out there that has had it done to them and how are you getting along and are there "side effects", etc etc?????

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  • peter88813
    peter88813 ChuckP

    Posted

    I 56 years old and in otherwise good health,

    I had it done on January 15th, 2018.

    They had 'forgotten' to get me a prescription for pain meds so I did this without any pain relief.

    Excruciating pain from the Rezum Therapy Probe - Not so much when the Doc made the 4 incisions and released the steam.  I recommend if you try this you have either strong meds or be put under general anesthetic.

    Asked me to void after and there was no way that was going to happen - Put a Foley in and told me to come back  in three days for a trial void.

    Foley was a pain, mostly stayed immobile as it cause a small tear in the tip and bled.

    Did the trial void with no success.

    Taught me how to self cath and set an appoint for follow up in 4 weeks.

    Learned how to self cath - Not bad once you get over the weirdness of putting something up your penis.

    It has been almost 4 weeks now since I did the procedure and I still must rely entirely on the cath to void.

    Other weird things:

    When I feel the urge to go to the bathroom all that comes out is a few drops of deep red blood.  

    When I self cath I can feel the catheter hit a semi solid wall of resistance (my swollen prostrate?) which I gently push through before hitting the bladder.

    I have called the Doc a few times and he says that I should give it time.  He said he had a patient with similar problems that resolved in week 4.

    I have read some scary stuff on these boards and wonder if I'm in for a longer, worse path or if I should expect to come out of this thing OK?

    When I pressed him on the number he'd done he said 10-15 - So by no means a veteran at this.

    So the results after 4 weeks is unable to pee without a catheter with no feeling of progress.

    Anyone with a similar story?

  • peter88813
    peter88813 ChuckP

    Posted

    I 56 years old and in otherwise good health,

    I had it done on January 15th, 2018.

    They had 'forgotten' to get me a prescription for pain meds so I did this without any pain relief.

    Excruciating pain from the Rezum Therapy Probe - Not so much when the Doc made the 4 incisions and released the steam.  I recommend if you try this you have either strong meds or be put under general anesthetic.

    Asked me to void after and there was no way that was going to happen - Put a Foley in and told me to come back  in three days for a trial void.

    Foley was a pain, mostly stayed immobile as it cause a small tear in the tip and bled.

    Did the trial void with no success.

    Taught me how to self cath and set an appoint for follow up in 4 weeks.

    Learned how to self cath - Not bad once you get over the weirdness of putting something up your penis.

    It has been almost 4 weeks now since I did the procedure and I still must rely entirely on the cath to void.

    Other weird things:

    When I feel the urge to go to the bathroom all that comes out is a few drops of deep red blood.  

    When I self cath I can feel the catheter hit a semi solid wall of resistance (my swollen prostrate?) which I gently push through before hitting the bladder.

    I have called the Doc a few times and he says that I should give it time.  He said he had a patient with similar problems that resolved in week 4.

    I have read some scary stuff on these boards and wonder if I'm in for a longer, worse path or if I should expect to come out of this thing OK?

    When I pressed him on the number he'd done he said 10-15 - So by no means a veteran at this.

    So the results after 4 weeks is unable to pee without a catheter with no feeling of progress.

    Anyone with a similar story?

  • michael07777
    michael07777 ChuckP

    Posted

    Hello all i had the Rezum done on Jan.15. went 3 days later had stent put in instead of leaving the cath in since it was filling up everynight to fast for . Anyway i had blood for a week or so but now the blood is coming back but only in the morning on my first pee. i am waiting now for a return call from my dr, i still have pain when i pee sometime it feels like a knife other times like a pin . my prostate was the size of a orange is how the doc said so a could understand how big it was i wish they could just in out and get over with all the tubs has anyone else had probmles like this please  me if i made a mistake and how imporant is the prosdtae anyway     thank you mike
  • michael07777
    michael07777 ChuckP

    Posted

    Hello all i had the Rezum done on Jan.15. went 3 days later had stent put in instead of leaving the cath in since it was filling up everynight to fast for . Anyway i had blood for a week or so but now the blood is coming back but only in the morning on my first pee. i am waiting now for a return call from my dr, i still have pain when i pee sometime it feels like a knife other times like a pin . my prostate was the size of a orange is how the doc said so a could understand how big it was i wish they could just in out and get over with all the tubs has anyone else had probmles like this please  me if i made a mistake and how imporant is the prosdtae anyway     thank you mike
  • michael07777
    michael07777 ChuckP

    Posted

    Hello all i had the Rezum done on Jan.15. went 3 days later had stent put in instead of leaving the cath in since it was filling up everynight to fast for . Anyway i had blood for a week or so but now the blood is coming back but only in the morning on my first pee. i am waiting now for a return call from my dr, i still have pain when i pee sometime it feels like a knife other times like a pin . my prostate was the size of a orange is how the doc said so a could understand how big it was i wish they could just in out and get over with all the tubs has anyone else had probmles like this please  me if i made a mistake and how imporant is the prosdtae anyway     thank you mike
    • D_Gee_322
      D_Gee_322 michael07777

      Posted

       Do you know what size  your porstate was?  What's the burning worse than being scoped .😡 Dave

  • joel16281
    joel16281 ChuckP

    Posted

    I am writing this for my husband, 79.  He walked in with assistance (stroke 2016) last Monday for the Rezume procedure, and 30 minutes later he was wheeled out.  He's been in ER and the hospital until Sunday with irregular heartbeat, urinary track infection, and dementia!  What I've come to conclusion as to what happened in 30 minutes to make such a change is the 2 pills he was instructed to take an hour before the procedure - Valium and Vicoprofen, or perhaps the procedure could have been a shock to the system.  I know he wasn't put out, and there was pain.  I never got a straight answer, except that the urologist kept insisting that my husband did not have a urinary track infection!  On Wednesday he was supposed to go back to the urologist to have a stent put into the prostate, and have the catheter removed.  Well, considering the condition my husband was in, that was put on hold for now, and the catheter kept in for at least a couple of weeks.  So, I have no idea if Rezume worked or not, but reading up on the stent procedure, I think we'll nix that!  The hospital transferred my husband to a rehab facility.  He'll stay there until he can walk again.  At least the dementia is gone, and he has gotten a little strength back.  This has been a total nightmare. My advice would be, especially for an elderly man, to not take these strong pain meds, and insist that it be done under anesthesia.  Hope this has been helpful.

    • jimjames
      jimjames joel16281

      Posted

      Sorry about what happened. Procedure trauma very likely caused the irregular heart beat. Because of the potential pain, many doctors put their patients out for Rezum. Of course, anesthesia has its own risks as well. If you want to know if your husband had a UTI, simply ask for the urinalysis and culture report. If it came out negative and you're still concerned then you could ask to have it repeated.

      Jim

    • joel16281
      joel16281 jimjames

      Posted

      Thanks so much for replying, Jim.  My husband had a UTI done in the ER and also in the hospital where he was admitted, and the urologist still said that it was impossible, because my husband started Cipro before the procedure.  He claimed that it was normal to find blood and elevated white count in the urine after the procedure.  My husband is doing pretty good now, but is in rehab going to work on getting his strength back.  He has an appointment with the urologist in a week to remove the catheter, and will probably still want to go ahead with the stent procedure.  I've read about the possible side effects, and discussed this with my husband.  He doesn't want the stent procedure, and I don't want him to have a replay of the Resume procedure.  It might be different if he could be put to sleep, but this doctor won't do it, so I just don't know.

    • jimjames
      jimjames joel16281

      Posted

      Are you talking about the Spanner Stent or another type of stent. The Spanner stent is just a temporary urethral stent that substitutes for a Foley catheter post op. Like a Foley, it anchors itself in the bladder with a small baloon. Nothing to do with the prostate per say. Alternatives to the Spanner are to keep the Foley in longer or to do self catherization. It will not effect the outcome of the Rezum at all. The Rezum was done fairly recently so hopefully things will get better when he heals.

      Jim

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 joel16281

      Posted

      Hello sorry about your husband.  What Jim is telling you is right.  There have been a few men that have had the Rezum procedure that instead of a catheter they have the spanner put in.  It is just like have a catheter put in.  They will put a numbing gel in so there will not be much pain.  Good luck to your husband  Ken  
    • joel16281
      joel16281 kenneth1955

      Posted

      Thanks Ken for replying.  Actually on Feb 5 after the Rezume procedure, a very specialized (so the nurse at the rehab facility tells me) catheter was placed.  It was supposed to come out on the 7th (his birthday!) for the stent to be placed in the prostate, but because of all the side effects, that procedure has been put on hold.  Today (Feb. 12) an appointment was made with the urologist to come in and have the catheter removed.  I wanted to remove it now, because it's giving him so much pain.  I read many of the comments here, and tomorrow will try the peroxide solution and the Neosporin ointment or vaseline.  I sure appreciate all your comments and your caring.

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 joel16281

      Posted

      Some of us have been through some of the thing that your husband is going through.  We are all here to help each other.  That is the way it should me.  Being you said that your husband did not want it.  Ask if they can hold off on the Spanner Stent.  After they remove the catheter.  Let him see if he can pee on his own.  Let's try to give that area a rest  Take care and God Bless.  Tell you husband a belated Happy Birthday  Ken

    • petermurphy555
      petermurphy555 joel16281

      Posted

      Hi Joel,

      I had the procedure Jan 23 since then I have had catheter #1 for 4 days experiencing severe spasms. Second day out I had to go to ER due to not being able to urinate in went catheter #2 for 4 days. I went in for removal and that afternoon they did bladder scan, I failed the void test. In goes catheter #3 this time for one week and after a week it is removed and I passed the void test. That afternoon I have severe pain in my right lower abdomen and off to urgent care I go, a bladder scan confirms my bladder is empty and I tell the Dr it feels like a stone; a ctscan confirms a stone in the upper ureter of the right kidney. It’s been 3 days now at home waiting for the stone to pass most of the time pain free. 

      I must say though I have almost no reminders that I had a prostate procedure (6 treatments) was performed and I’m urinating without issues. The initial stream will be darker with clot or tissue but clear there after without any feeling of irritation.

      So there is hope sometimes it just takes a little longer than the norm(?).

    • joel16281
      joel16281 petermurphy555

      Posted

      Hi Pete,

      So sorry you had to go to such misery.  This is Joanna the wife talking.  Today when I visit Joel I will be prepared with peroxide solution, Neosporin ointment and vaseline.  All I need is the courage to look!  When he was in the hospital, Joel had the catheter strapped to his leg.  Here in rehab it's got a long tube, and the bag is attached to the bed.  Every time that tube moves he is in agony, so if I can elieviate the pain with lubrication, it will be thanks to you guys!

    • petermurphy555
      petermurphy555 joel16281

      Posted

      Hi Joanna and Joel,

      I used neosporin with pain relief but the real problem is you need to constantly clean the catheter and the meatus . The urethra will ooze a pinkish sticky mucous that sticks to the catheter and the meatus. The catheter becomes crusty, the meatus becomes dried inflamed and crusty. I was constantly cleaning the area with clean water, soap if it gets in the urethra will be painful and peroxide for me is horrible if it isn’t a very diluted solution.  The build up will breakdown easily with clean water and try to make sure there are not any rough spots on the catheter and the meatus is completely clean, the neosporin will provide lubrication and relief. I found in my case that in a very short time I was repeating the process but as the inflammation and dryness was reduced the catheter was more tolerable.

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 joel16281

      Posted

      Good morning Joanna.  Why do you need the courage.  That is your husband.  You can do anything you want.  If you want to clean him they can't stop you.  In the 80's I worked in a nursing home.  I use to help some of them if they needed anything.  Even if I new I took care of the patients.  If a family wanted to wash them I would get them the hot water soap and the towels.  The catheter is no different it just is connected to a longer Tube.  Take care  Ken  

    • joel16281
      joel16281 kenneth1955

      Posted

      I need courage because I'm squeamish!!  We've only been married 54 years!!

    • petermurphy555
      petermurphy555 kenneth1955

      Posted

      Hi Kenneth,

      It’s probably the apprehension she will cause more pain and discomfort. Once she gets the hang of it ...

      Regards

    • joel16281
      joel16281 petermurphy555

      Posted

      OK Pete, don't laugh.  I have a feeling I know, but what is the "meatus???"  I've never heard that word before.  I will skip the peroxide and just use warm water.  I'll report back later today!

    • petermurphy555
      petermurphy555 joel16281

      Posted

      Hi Joanna,

      It’s the opening at the tip of the penis; just a fancy name for an opening.

      Regards,

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 joel16281

      Posted

      Joanna  It's ok you will be fine.  It's not like you have not see it before.  But do tell him before you do it.  Take care  Ken

    • kenneth1955
      kenneth1955 petermurphy555

      Posted

      Yes that could be but not a lot of women will do that for them husband.  Most of the time you do it yourself if you can  Take care  Ken
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