scared of ven!!!! need to get help!!!
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hi all i am a 30 year old happily married man who has suffered with deppresion most of his adult life. i have been on citalipram for the last 3 years but have now been changed to ven! . i have very dark periods of anger and social phobbia , it kills me that i get so nasty with my wife and my 3 kids who are soo loving andsupportive . i am scared , this time it feels worse , darker , harder its affecting everything . one minute im ok but the next im boiling with rage or hiding away in tears. is this how its going to be for the rest of my life . it brakes my heart to hear my 6 year old daughter tell my little boy that daddy didnt mean to shout its just because he hasnt taken his happy pill !!! am frightened of taking the ven , cant find that much positive as opposed to all the negative , citalipram side affect were ok eventually but this seems worse . i dont want to feel numb,lifeless,emotionless but then i cant carry on feeling as i do. my gp is very supportive and previously i have seen a counseller who was very helpfull . please can someone give me a ray of hope . one minute im up then im down , one minute im horny then i cant be bothered , instead of having 1 sociable drink i lock myself away and drink a bottle of vodka!!! i have no reson or explanation for the way i behave or for the things i do but i know that something has got to change for the sake of my marriage and my wonderfull family. please if anyone has any advice or help please get back to me . many thanks
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drove over 80 miles with teaqrs in my eyes , didnt know where i was going or wha i was gonna do!!! finally stopped at birchanger services on the m11 . parked up cried a lot decided i couldnt and didnt want to be a failure anymore and didnt wanna hurt my family .....so affter a while i walked from the services car park out onto the road and found myself looking over the m11 looking down on the motorway from the roundabout above then i stood on the crash barrier , gripped the side rails and decided it would be better if i just went.............
.....but i couldnt do it , everytime i closed my eyes all i saw was my wife and kids smilling at me i tried to climb over about 3 times but i just couldnt do it .
eventually i returned to the car park in fits of tears feeling even more of a failure than before.
after some period of time i started the long drive home , agin crying constantly.
upon returning home we argued again , i drank a large quantaty of vodka again and tried to sleep on the sofa ....again
my paranoia and jealousy and rage getting worse as each day goes on.
the next morning after another argument i finally broke down , i cried untill i cried no more and toldmy wife everything even about the stupid sellfish event the night before, my kids came in and saw me in pieces , they started to cry and this in turn made things 100 times worse.
finally for fear of what to do my wife rang my gp who advised her to take me to our local a and e and see the on call trickcyclist.
i am now uder the care of the local home crises tam from our mental health department they phone and do home visits etc to check on my state of health. they have increased my meddication and givin me sleeping. pills.they are treatingme and i finally feel i am being listend to . but do i feel any better................no
i shake , i cry , we still argue i fell dreadfull , im loosing weight i still cant sleep (even on pills) and my head is buzzing with 10000 paranoid thoughts a day. am back to the mental health center tomorow so we shall see what it brings
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The side effects of Ven are different for all. I was on prozac and must have had every side effect listed! It did my head in. Within those 8 weeks I lost almost everything, my partner my job. Ended up being arrested which was a good thing as the crisis team took over. They put me on Ven, luckily things got better.
I then had accident in car, had problems with my family and had dosage put up to 225. I do drink most days now, not too much though, 2 or 3 pints or half bottle of wine. However a bottle of vodka is going to counteract the good of ven completely!
I am on a 12 week course of counselling, which seems to help, but its one step at a time.
The 1st step is to talk to your family, then give the ven a chance to kick it. This can take upto 8 weeks, which can be hell. If you have bad thoughts tell someone, dont bottle it up. Once the ven kicks in you can start addressing your problems, which is the best time to get counsellling. Mine is helping me re-structure my life, get more exercise, do something new etc.
I was on ven 10 years ago, it worked then after I had a break down, and managed to come off it after about 8 months. Maybe your wife could got to counselling with you! There are also many useful books often at the local library dealing with this disease! There also plenty of websites.
Just remember you are not alone!
I have a beautiful daughter, whenever I feel crap or have dark feelings I try to think of happy times with her, of which I have many!
Keep your chin up
Stu
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Venlafaxine is a mood altering substance, an a stimulant, it can have the exact same effect on some people as crack cocaine and you can literally start to behave like a crack cocaine addict on these antidepressants. However you have to slowly stop taking venlafaxine to avoid serious withdrawal symptoms. Doctors love to use polypharmacy, ie. treatment with multiple drugs to counteract the side affects of some antidepressant, however, all these drugs seriously messes with your mind and you can literally end up being a complete stranger to yourself and everyone around you. Venlafaxine is really bad shit and it is a complete and utter lie by the medical profession and the pharmaceutical companies that antidepressants are \"safe\", they are not safe. They are labelled as being safe because nobody really understand or knows what they really do or how they work. As a result lots of people have very strange and bizarre experience when they take these antidepressants, but the medical profession and the drug companies are in complete denial about these effects that antidepressants can have on people.
Also the New NICE guidelines on the treatment of depression clearly states that people respond to antidepressant in the first 2 weeks. In other words the effect that an antidepressant has on you is immediate. However you become desenstitised to the effect and it is less dramatic the longer you take it. In other words you just get used to feeling like a completely crazed lunatic than you did in the begining. So if you had a bad reaction to venlafaxine in the first month you should not be taking it at all. IF you doctor simply increased your dosis instead of taking you off venlafaxine it is because your doctor is ignorant at recognising and realising when someone is having a bad reaction to venlafaxine.