seized up back

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This is The 3rd time my back has seized up completely.i can hardly move, walk etc.the pain is intense and debdebilitating and I'm at my wits end . I've had an mri scan which showed wear and tear and a nerve being slightly touched causing pains down legs.i live with back ache daily but have adapted life around it, but this time it seized up,2 days ago, it came from no where . I'm bedbound with my poor husband doing everything. I'm on cocodomol, naproxen and diazepam just for a week to help with spasms . I'm so depressed and would love to know there is someone who can identify with me and have any ideas how to cope better with all this.

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    Hi Derek, I hope that you are well young man...just a quick note...LYRICA AND PREGABALIN...ARE THE SAME DRUGS.....

    Nixxy, have you been referred to the pain clinic ?. I went many times and had injections on my lower back..( six either side and also a spinal block in my cocyx....I also attended a group by BARTS HOSPITAL IN CONJUNCTION WITH WARWICK UNIVERSITY... it was to find new ways to aid pain relief....we learnt how to use distraction !! Very useful....exercise ....meditation...and just talking to others in the same situation.....it was a PILOT STUDY...and it is now used in hospitals...ask your DR to refer you to a pain clinic and or a physiotherapist ...all these options help greatly....once again, take care my lovely..also all the others on this forum ...big hugs to you all....Deirdre xxx

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      As soon as I get mobile again, if ever, I'm making an appointment with my gp about a pain clinic.no professional has ever suggested it.so thank you.
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      Not so much the Young Man please!  I'm 81 but actually only part of me is.

      I was recently in hospital and the night nurse I had been talking to who had just come on duty came out of the office with my notes. I've just been reading them she said, 'Are you really 80?.I hope that I look like you when I'm that age.

      I'm so new to those drugs that I have not taken any yet as the write ups scare the s**t out of me. I see that Lyrica is the expensive version of Pregabalin/Gabapentin..

      My back problem is relatively new and I just recently privately had a CT scan after months of a neurologist looking for obscure genetic reasons for numbness in my feet that I kept on saying came from my lower back.

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      Hi Derek; just a "quick" reply re Lyrica....yes it is the same as Pregabalin but not Gabapentin.........I have also noted your request to explain your MRI results and will get to that soon (am short on time as hubby is having probs and in hospital having a few ops after an accident, so will reply ?tomorrow).....Bron
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    Hi Nixxy; yes, I, too, know how you are feeling...........this has happened to me twice over the last couple of months (and yes, it just happened that I was here on my own, too, as hubby was away working).....it did scare me a bit as I thought "what the hell am I going to do?".....started with the Hot-packs to warm up the muscles,  took 2 Brufen and a valium, and lay down....this went on for a couple of days, treating the same way.......and then it just disappeared to.....but re-occurred about a month later.(I do, too, have Osteo plus other probs)......I feel that by having cut back on my Physio/massages as I was thinking that I was ok, this in fact was the reason that the muxcles seized up.....so it has been back to physio on a regular basis again  (every 3 weeks approx).......they have given me gentle exercises to do, to keep the strength in back....this one is quite easy  ......"lay front down of floor/bed and lay arms by side, with palm uppermost, and stretching them down longways....as if trying to reach your toes...keeping shoulders flat on bed and breathing normally...then raise your hands approx 1 inch or so off the bed and hold for about the count of 10....then relax.....do this about 4-5 times.".......you will definately feel the lower back muscles tighten, which will strengthen them......hopefully neither of us have to go through that experience again.....good luck...........Bron
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    Dear Nixxy

    Your symptoms sound remarkably similar to what I experienced.

    Have a look at my previous posts. It might be very helpful.

    The reason (going by my experiences) for the bouts of seizing up and intense pain is that you may have an infection/cyst in your back, around the spine or in the main muscles, that becomes ruptured. Maybe by leaning back onto a low backed chair or lifting something. The infection in the cyst then spreads through the

    muscle and around the spine and nerve strings that run through channels in the muscles causing intense pain, refered pain running down hip and thigh, locked up

    spine and possibly abdomen pain. Do you experience sudden intense pain at about 

    3.30 in the night or half way through your normal sleep?

    If this sounds familiar, then you may have a yeast/candida/fungal infection.

    A safe way to get clues to your ailment would be to make an evenning meal with lots of coconut  (1 can of coconut milk (75% coconut minimum)) Chilly con carne works well. I know it sounds a bit bonkers, but the coconut acts as a lubricant for joints and seems to ease the movement of the nerve strings through the channels, thus easing the refered pain (sciatic like pain). The coconut also has antifungal properties.

    What I'm trying to say is that If you notice a big difference then it gives you a big clue as to the cause.

    The drug that I CAUTIOUSLY used to really get rid of the infection is capsule fluconazole plus coconut. 

    Hope this helps

     

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      I have read good reports on coconut oil for various conditions. Have you used it?
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      Yes. Read my previous discussion. "Mycotic Arthiritis"  There's a big difference between coconut oil and whole coconut.

      Note to Nixxy - Maybe not a whole can of the coconut milk. Half is enough.

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      I bent forward and went    OOER with pain shooting all over and hardly able to move. Realised I have a small tender lump at the bottom of spine. Think it is a torval cyst filled with fluid that appeared due to the trauma. Now in a lot of pain in back, buttocks and down one leg. Cannot take pain killers. Am young but feel and act like someone three times my age now. And getting very grumpy with the constant pain and troub le moving. Do not have candida.  What is this fluconazole, and how wold it help?
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      Hi Carmel; from the little knowledge that I have re a Tarval Cyst is that "it is a small bag of spinal fluid that accumulates at the base of spine.....and is ?caused by the herpes virus"  (hence it is also known by other names, one being Meningeal Cyst).......also from what I know, it is better treated either by having a Professional injecting some Cortisone into the area, via Ultra-sound imaging, to ensure that the injection goes into the cyst, giving some relief for some time; or other is to have it removed by a very experienced Back/Spinal Specialist Surgeon (Orthopaedic)......the reason for the radiating pain down your leg/s, is that this cyst is pressing on the nerve that comes out of the particular area where the cyst is located...... In answer to your question re  "fluconazole", this is an anti-biotic (otherwise known as Fluclox/Flucolxacillin....a derivitive of Penicillin)......and as this is a Viral issue, do not know if it is certain to work????....hoping that this helps and not causes any upset??............Bron
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      Dear Bronwyn 

      I think you are getting your drugs a bit mixed up. 

      Try wikipedia for quick research.

      Fluconazole is anti-fungal drug for treating fungus/yeast/candida infections.

      Being one of the Azole family of anti-fungal treatments. 

      Flucloxacillin is a penecillin type antibiotic derived from fungus/mould.

      so, Two opposing treatments.

      In fact, there is a lot of discussion that the taking of penecillin type drugs exacerbates fungal infections namely Candida, thrush, ballinitis, and other fungal infections.  

       

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    I wish I could be of some help but I don't have this type of problem.  My back doesn't seize up but there are times when I can hardly move my legs to walk.  Lots of times I just slide my feet.  So sorry wish I could have had some type of advice for you.  I know how debilitating back pain is as I have been living with it for years.  Have had numerous MRI's and cat scans, wish someone would give me some other ideas besides the numerous drugs and visits to the pain clinic.  Anyways good luck, hope someone can point you in the right direction.

     

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    Hi Nixxy. Am in a similar situation to you. Was fine one moment, bent down to pick something up and  W HAM. I realise now I have a torval cyst lower spine and the trauma probably caused its appearance and the pain that goes wit it. Cannot take pain killers. So am looking teo getting a magnetic or tens machine. How a reyou now?
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    Hi Nixxy; am just wanting to ask you not to "feel that you are suffering from what some of the other back pain sufferers are saying is wrong with them......especially the Tarval Cyst....this is Something Completely different, so I don't want you thinking along these lines, as it would have shown up on your MRI.....which from what you are saying above, is that a/some discs have been subjected to "wear and tear", which probably means that the "spongy cushions that support/cushion the bones of the back" have deteriorated due to use over your life .......it may also be a little out of it's normal alignment.....hence the slight pinching of a nerve that comes out of that Particular area, causing the radiating pain down your legs.....I do feel that with correct physio, the valium (diazepam)....which is to help the muscles to relax and not "spasm",.... naprosan, which is an anti-inflammatory to help the "swelling around affected muscles", and the Rest, your back will improve within a short period of time...........and of course try to "not" do same again.....we ALL simply just bend over to pick something up, but when we already have a back issue, it is better if we do the "picking up" by bending our knees and going down this way.....it would be terrible if you did the same again, as the More we aggravate an existing problem, the Worse/Easier it is for this to re-occur..........hoping that I have not said anything to upset anyone, but am hoping that this has helped???............Bron

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