Sertraline vs Mirtazapine
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ive been on Sertraline for a few months but when the GP put me up to 100mg it gave me horrendous diarrhoea. He's just changed me into Mirtazapine 30 mg at night which is apparently the only one I can change onto immediately. Having red a few things on here, I'm wondering if this is too high a dose to start off with. I don't mind it making me sleep as I have trouble there but I have to get up in the mornings. Also I don't want to put a lot of weight on obviously. Anyone got any advice for me please?
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mazza245
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It definitely makes me sleep like a log but I'm a bit unsteady on my feet for a while when I wake up and also before I can get into bed after taking it. Also I'm yawning all the day as well.
I have a dry mouth, constantly feeling as if I haven't cleaned my teeth,
i also have a permanent tummy ache but I'm constipated.
I don't feel any less anxious and I'm apparently ratty as anything with my family.
i realise it's only been a week today but I feel like going back on Sertraline as that at least made me feel calmer. I can't keep swapping and changing like this. I probably should give this three more weeks to kick in, shouldn't i?
its easy giving advice on here but it's difficult to know what to do yourself. Has anyone else noticed feeling a bit sweaty occasionally on it? I know everyone is different, it's hell, isn't it? Perhaps I'd be better being on no medication and just ripping someone's head off!
tony15730 mazza245
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Mirtazopine is normally a third line treatment as I would expect an snri to be tried first if ssri's do not work.
tony15730 mazza245
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dinky_dee mazza245
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mazza245
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I rang the doctor and begged for advice which eventually ended up with me getting an appointment this afternoon. I was told it isn't wise for me to go back on Sertraline or stop taking anything which is what I feel like doing. He gave me 15 mg tablets of Mirtrazine to take for two weeks, see how I go until my scheduled appt with my own GP. If I really can't stomach 15 mg then I should stop altogether. It's such a relief being told what to do as I can't make a decision to save my life. I can't remember what it feels like to be able to move my head without being dizzy or how I felt before took anything!
tony15730 mazza245
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As you can't take an ssri you should probably avoid herbal stuff like St Johns wort as well. Just thought I should mention that.
Have you considered talking theropy?
mazza245
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tony15730 mazza245
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SSRI= Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor.
Only increase's serotonin (thats what the selective part means). Examples - Fluoxetine (prozac), Citalopram, sertraline.
SNRI= Serotonin & norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor.
Increases serotonin and norepinephrine. norepinephrine is nor-'adrenaline' but as usual they like to use words us normal people don't recognise! Examples include Venlafaxine, Desvenlafaxine.
TCA= TriCycleAntidepressant.
These can have a varing effect depending on which one you look at. Generally these have more side affects than ssri's or snri's but every individual is different. It also easier to overdose on (some) of them which is one reason why docs prefer other options. Examples - Clomipramine. Doxepin.
There are others, mirtazipine is not any of the above but those 3 above cover the vast majority normally prescribed.
The affect they have really depends on the indivdual. Often its simply comes down to a case of 'effectiveness vs side effects' balance. Wikipedia gives a good overview among many others sites.
Sorry for going on a bit, I just wanted to give a breif overview to help people know what they are taking.
dinky_dee mazza245
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I've had to stop this drug, I had an allergic reaction to it. Just waiting for it to exit my system. Feel wiped out. My hands & feet were OK but came out in red/purple ithy spots on my legs, they went purple & blotchy too.
mazza245
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dinky_dee mazza245
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My CBT therapist (occupational therpist) kept fixating on me taking my sons swimming once a week. It was winter at the time & I have Raynauds so I explained that I wouldn't go that frequently but she carried on regardless so I can relate to your feelings of being told what to do.
moma_s_04023 mazza245
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zachary36968 mazza245
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You can take sertraline and mirtazapine together -- in fact, they work synergistically and the addition of mirtazapine is thought to mitigate many of the unwanted side effects of SSRIs and SNRIs, like sexual dysfunction and dirrhea. This is accomplished due to mirtazapine's unique pharmacological characteristics, acting as a 5-HT2 and 5-HT3 receptor antagonist. The specifics get a little complicated and aren't pertinent to this post, but by inhibiting these receptor sites, and in symbiosis with the serotonin reputable inhibition of your given SSRI or SNRI, 5-HT1 is specifically stimulated; this serotonin receptor site is thought to be especially involved in mood regulation and thought to be under stimulated in anxious and depressive conditions -- in contrast to, say, 5-HT3, which when stimulated induces nausea and vomiting, among other things (in fact, the antiemetic drug ondansetron is a 5-HT3 receptor antagonist).
The combination of duloxetine and mirtazapine is colloquially referred to in psychiatric circles as Limerick Rocket Fuel, and the combination of venlafaxine and mirtazapine is likewise referred to as California Rocket Fuel.
Anyways, my point is that this drug is very useful, and when taken in combination with SSRI and SNRI antidepressants, has a very tolerable side effect profile. I would recommend you see a psychiatrist, if you're going to be taking such an aggressive course of treatment -- and I would generally recommend such professional counsel when taking any psychiatric medication, even for something ostensibly simple and common like depression or anxiety. General practitioners simply aren't as well equipped to manage such medications and aren't as quailified to assess your longterm response to treatment. Having such expertise involved can only be to your benefit.
sparkle69 mazza245
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Iv never took meds before and was put on 100mg ster and had horrible acid reflux and bowl issues, but slept well. Was changed to 15mg of mirt and bowls back normal no acid reflux but can't sleep and eating loads at night , and up at night doing stuff loads of energy, when I try to sleep my arms and legs twitch and restless, but happier and anxiety better
sparkle69 mazza245
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I had the same 100mg of stert but was switched to 15 mg of mirt, I can't sleep up most of the night active, and eating lots also, I need something to help me sleep, I have so much energy, 100mg of stert made my bowls terrible and acid reflux and night terrors, but I slept ok on them.