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jack48798
jack48798

Hi,

I have suffered with sleeping problems for 3 years now, 

Its in consistent it how i am affected

some nights i wont fall sleep to late around 4-6 in the morning (fortunatley my job doesnt require me to get up early )

Some night i simpley cannot sleep 

Some night i sleep and its very patchy ill sleep for 2hour wake up fall back to sleep and repeat til the morning

a good night sleep for me will be fall asleep within a hour of going to bed waking up maybe once in the night and fall back to sleep

i also have times when im not sure if im asleep im in a kind of light sleep stage were i dont feel as if im awake or a sleep but after like 4 hours of it i kinda of really wake up 

i used to be a nice sleep up until i was around 19 im 22 now 

my sleep has got worst over the last year i would say

i try to go to bed and wake up around the same time

factors i believe affect my sleep

i work some nights up until 12 

i dont excerise as reguallry as usual

i get anxious about sleeping and always dread going to bed 

Please offer some advice and help on this im desperate to get my life back

Thanks

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  • borderriever
    borderriever jack48798

    Posted

    First and foremost I would advise you to talk to your GP. Explain your concerns 

    Your sleepless nights do you have any concerns that can make you feel this way ??

    If you are worried or concerned about something that can give a sleepness night.

    One thing you could try is not to drink tea or coffee before bed, also look at any medications you are taking do any of these keep you awake. Sometimes th taking of medications can be switched to different times of the day, that can soetimes aid sleep. Talk to your GP regards medications.

    BOB

    • jack48798
      jack48798 borderriever

      Posted

      Hey

      Thanks for the message, yep will defintley be contacting my gp.

      I dont drink tea or coffee so wouldnt affect me.

      However i looked into my medication i take Propecia, there were stories almost exactly the same to mine although i have only took for around a year would explain the worsening so will certianley be shelving those

      Thanks for the help

    • lily65668
      lily65668 jack48798

      Posted

      Jack, please don't take any more Propecia. Flush them down the toilet.

      I'm not normally one to go around telling people not to take their medications but this one has a terrible reputation, and it doesn't even serve any medical purpose. Surely you've read up on its side-effects, some of which are irreversible? Anxiety and insomnia are both on the list, as you say, but they could be the least of your problems. You're effectively taking oestrogen when you swallow this stuff.

      So you're losing your hair? So what? None of the women (or the gay men) I know are remotely bothered by that. A No. 1 crop or even a shaven head are very fashionable and desirable these days! It's really not worth taking all the risks of this drug just for a false perception of how you're seen by others.

    • jack48798
      jack48798 lily65668

      Posted

      Hi,

      Yep i have read up on them side effects now, fortunatley i was not affected but any how yes i have thrown them away and will discontinue using them 

      Thanks

    • lily65668
      lily65668 jack48798

      Posted

      Phew! You had a lucky escape. Thousands didn't!

      Obviously it's going to take a while for your sleep to get back to normal, mainly because of the long-term effects of that toxic rubbish you were taking, but also because you've got yourself into the habit of trying to sleep, as the highly articulate bemmeh describes so well. I'm sure this will all settle down if you stay calm and give yourself a few months.

      It might also help if you can sit down and quietly address any anxieties you might be pushing out of sight. People who have increased anxiety in general usually tend to have sleep problems - as I know from personal experience. Since you've already experienced sufficient anxiety about something many men would view as relatively banal to put your health at risk by taking a dangerous drug, it occurs to me that you might be susceptible to anxiety in general.

      Speaking from personal experience again, the interesting thing about managing anxiety is that you don't actually have to do anything about it. It's much more subtle than that. All you have to do is acknowledge that it's there and make allowances for it. (But without requiring others to make allowances for your anxiety, of course!) I found that once I could get into that mindset of acknowledging what was going on below the surface, my anxiety, though it never went away, became manageable and stopped silently undermining all aspects my life.

      At age 22 you're still young enough to start the process. I was 28 when I was forced by circumstances to embark on this kind of openness with myself. The process of reaching some kind of equilibrium took about 10 years, but didn't require any outside intervention.

      I don't know you, of course, so all the stuff about coping with anxiety might be totally inappropriate for you. Please feel free to discard anything that doesn't apply.cheesygrin

    • jack48798
      jack48798 lily65668

      Posted

      Hi,

      i have anxiety issues which i have addressed in the past but nothing really long term i had anxiety issues before even my sleeping problems but never really adressed the issue to much. I am now making a concious effort now i have done before but really struggle to stick to it, i kind of get a bit better the edge comes of then i relapse if that makes sense. My insomnia is certianley linked to my anxiety i have booked an apointment with my GP and will go from there. I will take into account your experience with anxiety.

      Thank You

    • lily65668
      lily65668 jack48798

      Posted

      Well, some people find it's easier to go the medical route to deal with anxiety. It's an entirely personal choice, but I always think "talking therapies" like CBT are more effective in the long term than medication, which alters the way your brain functions and can be hard to withdraw from. Also don't forget that many sleep meds are highly addictive - including those like zopiclone that claim not to be. I've never taken this myself but know people who have, and have run into trouble with it.

      I hope you're soon able to resolve your anxiety.

  • bemmeh
    bemmeh jack48798

    Posted

    Hi,

    I had horrible (worse than yours) insomnia. I tried pretty much any medication or technique possible, none worked in the long run. My sleep improved a lot and currently I can pretty much sleep every night, some nights better than others, but over-all I'm happy with my sleep. How I did it? I stopped trying to improve my sleep. I just stopped doing all the things I was doing in order to fall asleep. No medication, no relaxation technique, nothing. I just went back to whatever I used to do before I had my sleep problems, which meant doing NOTHING at all. It took me a while but things got better over time. Whenever you used to go to bed before you started having your problem, go to bed at that time. Lie in your bed and don't think about sleep. You didn't think about sleep before, did you? It just occurred by itself. So, stop trying to fall asleep. Just lie in bed and rest. If you fall asleep, be it, if not, be it, you haven't been getting much success for 3 years anyway. If you get 2 hours of sleep, be it, if not, be it. Stop attempting to get more sleep, or any sleep at all. Simply get on with your life, and when night time comes, go to bed with the intention of resting. Normal people do not try to sleep, it occurs automatically. You did not attempt to fall asleep before, so you just need to go back behaving how you did before. Things will improve, but it will take time.

    • jack48798
      jack48798 bemmeh

      Posted

      Hey,

      Thanks i certianly will give it a try i have heard many people say this, i can see how this would work defintley.

      Thanks for the help

       

    • bemmeh
      bemmeh jack48798

      Posted

      No problem. I can also give you more details if you want over the phone or Skype or something. If needed send me a private message.
    • jack48798
      jack48798 bemmeh

      Posted

      no thats fine i actually have a book thats pretty much along those lines  tim cantopher - beating insomnia without really trying maybe you have heard of it

      Thanks

  • ammogram
    ammogram jack48798

    Posted

    Try going to a sleep clinic where yull be given a sleep study and they can see how you sleep; if any physiological problems pop up or the later.

    ive already had mine done but my insonmia just changed and got worse so i have a followup with the sleep speacilist. Try to see sleep speacilist as most are deidcated into finding a cause for your problems

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