Spaced out, high, Drunk Feeling. Please help me. (5 MONTHS)

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Hi everyone.

My name is Erik. I am a 20 year old male, thin build. 6' 2'' at 170 lbs. I have had really debilitating issues for the last 5 months. The issue is that I feel drunk, spacey, loopy, high and dizzy all the time. It basically feels the same as if you were tipsy or the high feeling you can get. I also have visual disturbances. My vision has become blurry and I have somewhat tunnel vision. I just feel all around out of it. I find myself daydream, when I say this I mean my eyes don't focus on anything (go blurry) and just look at nothing. I think it might be slight double vision. Sounds are also very werid and it takes alot of energy to focus on visual and audio stimulants. Additionally, I am tired all the time. Extremely tired. Some days I will sleep very well for 10-11 hours and still be tired when I wake up and exercise will not wake me up. It is like the type of good solid sleep you have when your body is sick.. My memory has gotten really bad as well as my ability to process thoughts and engage in conversation. Imagine being drunk all the time...first I have been reading on boards like this for a long time now and have seen some people with these symptoms but no answers!! People seem to disappear. I hope hey have solved this problem but please let me know how!

Let me start by giving some background information. In August 2015 I was in an indoor rock climbing gym and fell from 15 feet straight onto my back. I could not move for a good 15 minutes because it hurt so bad. I wasn't able to do anything athletic after that day for at least a month. However, I did not have my current symptoms after this fall. 

Fast forward to December 15th 2015. I got really sick, was in bed for 4 days. Sore throat, eyes hurt like crazy, and super tired. It was during and after these 4 days that I developed a headache. This headache causes a pressure/dull/sharp pain behind my eyes, the upper bridge of my nose and right in between my eyes on my forehead. This headache lasted for about 4 months. 

At about 3 weeks into the headache I went and saw an ENT as I thought it was a sinus infection. i took multiple sets of antibiotics over the course of the next month to no avail. I got blood tests and liver test at around 2 months into the headache and nothing showed abnormal. I then was able to get into a nuerologist. They were unable to find anything after taking an MRI of my head with a barium contrast. 

Since the beginning of my headache I have been seeing a (PT) physical therapist mostly for my neck and back since after the fall my back is sore constantly. I had a neck injury about 5 years ago on a trampoline so I have a sore neck, tight muscles alot from that. 

At about 3 months into the headache (3/15/2015) I developed a new symptom, the drunk/high, dizziness, loopiness. I had the headache at the same time at this point. My PT suggested that I may have a blood vessel being pinched in my neck or a nerve being pinched in my mid back area where my rock climbing fall pain is mostly at.

I have been to 3 different chiropractors since this has occured about 5 times to each one. It has not helped so far. My PT gave me massages in my affected back and neck areas. 

Also a new thing I've noticed recently is that when I look up (bend my neck to look at the sky) I seem to get some sort of relief? Also ever since the loopy part started (this did not happen when I just had the headache) any amount of alcohol at all will make me SUPER DRUNK, literally like 2 sips. I used to be able to drink 3 full beers before getting buzzed.

I am thinking I want my doctor to give me a full head (brain/upper atlas) to lower back (tailbone) MRI so that my nerves and blood vessels going to my brain can be evaluated. Do you think this is a good idea? Has anyone had these symptoms before? I am now 5 months into this and it is debilitating. 

No doctor is taking me seriously because I am so young and the chances of having a serious problem are supposedly slim because of my age. PLEASE HELP!!! I feel like I'm caught in a dream and losing my awareness and my IQ. I am afraid something is damaging my brain and this is going to be permanent.

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    Hey, that is sad that they do not take you seriously. My nurse practitioner didn't listen to me either, she tried but I do nt think she understood. I had sintitus and was given antibiotics and a steroid, I took all my meds but the steriod due to high bp and being a diabetic, but anyways I have been doing alot of reasearch about head pressure and I found out it was due to the way I was sleeping I love pillows and I slept with five and the way I was sleeping caused pressure to my neck that felt like hell. It went from my neck to my face to my head, for weeks I didn't figure it out till last week that it was the way I was sleeping from the post of this sites and others. So for the past few days I have been sleeping with two good pillows and my neck feels so much better and my head pressure is gone. Keep doing your own research keep trying to figure out what is wrong with you, cause at times doctors try there best but we known out own bodies.
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      Hi Farrah. WHen you say you slept with 5 pillows do you mean 5 stacked on top of each other? Did you have the other symptoms like feeling loopy and drunk? 
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    Erik, I think you need to go somewhere else. Many doctors that don't see things on screen will dismiss you. I suggest researching the Internet for additional topics. Think outside the box and don't try to put all symptoms in at once. You may find something similar. I am not sure where you are located, but to find a speciality hospital versus just a regular one. You need someone on your side. Push these doctors and keep asking questions. Make sure someone is going with you to the doctors and taking notes. 

    I think you need a very good neurologist!!  

     

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    Hi, I have been suffering from the exact same thing for 15 months. Can I ask, do you feel worse when bending and leaning over? I myself initially wasn't very well and had eye pain, it was a few days later symptoms like yours started.

    15 months on I'm very close to getting an operation to fix me. I have a blockage within the sphenoid sinus cavity Ostia (drainage point). I've had 3 scans in the 15 months, all deemed normal. Because of this I bought them and had a look for myself. In all 3 scans there was mucus thickening at the sphenoid Ostia. Now apparently this is deemed normal as a scan the next day would more than likely show it had cleared. When I pointed this out to my 4th ENT he was very interested. It's very unusual as odds should say that on at least one scan it would show as clear. On Thursday I will see an ENT surgeon who will talk about the next step. The operation is called ballon sinoplasty. It opens up the airways within the sphenoid cavity which I think will cure me. The internet is full of people suffering from these symptoms and nobody knows the answer. Well I think I do and if this works for me it may well work for many others.

    Get back to me as I would like to chat more. I have 80 people in a group with these symptoms, I believe I'm close to finding the problem.

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      Hi new56, yes the pressure in my head gets much worse when i bend/lean over. That is why I initially thought it was a sinus issue. It gets very uncomfortable within 5 seconds. 

      I believe I had something similar on the 1 MRI I have had. There was slight thickening but I think the ENT doc said the same thing. Could you show me a picture of the area you are talking about on your MRI? And yes can you add me to this group please!

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      Did the balloon sinoplasty work? I’ve had similar results on my scans and they always say they are normal and every test they run they say looks fine.
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    Hi Erik,

    A lot of what you mentioned regarding the symptoms, I have been experiencing for more than a decade but my situation might be different because I've had fibromyalgia, osteoarthritis before the headaches started. The headache literally never went away since it started developing, although once in a blue moon it would diminish to a tolerable level for someone who's been fighting instense pain for a long time. I work from home selling merchandise online because I'm practically disabled. Between the muscle pain, body and brain fatigue, and the debilitating headache I feel like a vegetable. So I'm going to assume you don't have the muscle pain that comes along with Fibromyalgia since you didn't mention it. Let me ask you a few questions to see if I can relate.

    1. Does the headache accompany symptoms of pins and needles sometimes?

    2. Does it at times feel like pressure emanating from the back of the head? Sometimes it shoots, sometimes it feels like your head is almost on fire? Are there some tender or trigger spots somewhere on your skull and if so, where?

    3. Does the behind the eye pain feel like it's a sore, sometimes a stabbing pain? When you press your eyeballs in while your eye is closed does it give you an intense pain, sometimes burning, the kind you get when you are getting a massage on painful tight muscles.

    4. Do your ears pop on a regular basis? Mine pop more on a bad headache day and looking around makes them pop.

    5. Do you feel tightness in your throat on a regular basis?

    6. Do you have a tight jaw or TMJ?

    7. Does your neck pop when you stretch it right or left?

    I suspect it has more to do with pinched nerves in the occipital area or perhaps below that. That is what my chiropractor tells me although I diagnosed myself to begin with, and he kind of confirmed it from hearing my symptoms. I'm planning on getting a CT scan or an MRI of the back of my head to see if it show anything.

    You mentioned a very interesting phenomenon when drinking alcohol, that is exactly what I feel, which is the reason I don't usually drink except for the occasional wine. Friends around me get the "happy drunk" feeling, whereas I feel dizzier, more disoriented, and my speech becomes very sluggish (I have speech issues on bad days regardless) with signifcantly cognitive impairment. Also, looking up kind of gives me a temporary reduction in the pain, and lying on the bed with my head hanging upside down at the edge of the bed kind of gives me a relief after feeling more pressure on the sides of my head and temples. Still not enough to make it go away when I stand up straight but I do it out of despair. I have a runny nose and phlegm, but that comes with the FMS anyways. The headache I have is neuralgic in nature. I've learned over the years to adopt a regimen of supplements and remedies, although I'm still not out of the woods yet.

     

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      Hi n53, when you say muscle pain what exactly do you mean? I am so sorry you've had to deal with this for so long. My muscles do not have pain but they do get EXTREMELY tired and sore. I was doing neck stretches today and my arms were getting tired after stretching my neck for about 15 seconds. I had to put my arms down.

      1. I don't beleive that I have had pins and needles, at least not often enough to remember.

      2. I do have some muscles on the back of my skull near my atlas that when I massage help a tiny bit. Not sure if it just feels good and it makes me forget a bit about the pain or not?

      3. Yes the pain in my eyes does feel like a burning type. When I push on the top they hurt as you described but not the middle part.

      4. I don't believe my ears pop. However, for the past 2 months my ears get this really WIERD feeling of liquid draining down into the ear. When I stick my finger in it there's nothing there, so I assume it is nerves playing a mind trick? Or it's the muscles making it feel like that. But I swear, it's the same feeling you'd get if you poured cold liquid (like 1 or 2 drops) into your ear.

      Additionally sometimes my ears will seem plugged. When I lean over (which makes my head pressure worse) my ears will unplug.

      5. Yes I do feel tightness in my throat. Not all the time though. I think I might get it as a result of anxiety. The anxiety being caused by my symptoms never going away. NOT anxiety causing the symptoms, it's an affect. I'm a very non anxious person.

      6. I believe I might have a tight jaw? I used to grind my teeth and I think I still might. I have tried massaging all the muscles on my face before though and none are like SUPER sore. And it doesn't make the headache/loopiness go away.

      7. Sometimes my neck will pop, but not everytime. Doesn't make it go away though.

      8. Hanging my head over the side of my bed makes me have the same symptoms as leaning over. The pressure gets insanely bad and I can't lay like that for long.The pressure builds in my eyes and forehead.

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      Hey Erik,

      Sorry about the late reply. For some reason, this website is freezing my laptop all the time. So as I already mentioned we probably don't have the same exact case, but I'm trying to pin down the cause of your headache and it's possible that the cause of mine and yours are the same or similar.

      So I guess you do have some muscle issues in your neck accompanying the headache, which points to the possibility of a bad nerve. Not having the pins and needles just yet may or may not say something because for me those came later. The relief you get from massaging the back of the head might indicate it's the occipital nerve or something similar. What I sometimes do when I'm in extreme pain is lie down on the couch and press my head down at the edge to get the “good pain” in the tender part which makes me want to scream. Sometimes I get a bit of relief out of it, sometimes not as much but the nerve pain is obvious. I have a portable massager that I also use and press hard against it. The pain you get in your eye sounds like mine. I get the tender pain when I press the upper part of my eyeballs and especially towards the inner corner. Feels like stabbing pain but at times it's also alleviating. On occasion I do get the liquidy sensation in my ear, but I also have congestion which might have something to do with it. They also often feel clogged and I have some hearing issues, along with tinnitis that may or may not last for a long time. The tightness in my throat sometimes make it hard for me to speak and yet it's worse at times when I'm a little tense, but there's a little bit of it even when I'm relaxed. I also seem to have the tingling sensation in my head when I'm speaking and especially when I'm a little angry. As you mentioned, it's the pain that's causing the anxiety not the other way around, the proof being that on a rare good day, I have no anxiety whatsoever and feel like I could take on the whole world. When I asked you about the tight jaw it's because it's also an additional symptom that might come later on with occipital nerve issues and that's because there's a connection to another nerve (trigeminal). In my case, I have to yet find out. What's interesting is that when I wobble my neck from side to side there's a tense feeling right below the TMJ with a crackling sound which indicates there's a connection between my neck and jaw. My neck joints also crackle and pop which I have yet to find out why. I don't grind my teeth whatsoever so I believe the TMJ is a secondary symptom that I gradually got. Yes, when I hang my head down the pressure is even worse, but it's kind of like putting up with worse pain in the hope of easing up the headache when I stand back up. But I'm finding this to be less effective as time goes by and when the pain is more tingly or burning, it doesn't seem to do much. I believe the forced blood flow is what might ease it up at times.

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      You two both sound like you have what I've got.

      I've been dealing with this for 16 months. Pressure when leaning or bending forward. Ears feel clogged so I pop them which actually eases the pressure within my head as mucus somehow gets squeezed through. I've had scans and all deemed clear, only looks like a small blockage on left centre sphenoid sinus cavity. Surgeon won't operate on NHS but will if I pay him £4500 private. These symptoms that we are having are very closed to something called 'Isolated Sphenoid Sinusits'. Especially the pressure when leaning forward.

      I honestly think it's to do with that but only shows as minimal on scans. For me I had an eye problem where my eyes hurt for 2 months, as I'd they swelled, then this head pressure came. What if the eye problem caused something to drain into the sinus cavity and stick like glue. This would make drainage possible but hampered. It affects me more, the more I move. I can't exercise because of it. Have you ever had eye problems?

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      You make a very good point, and when you first mentioned it, I looked up the symptoms. They are overwhelmingly common with that of occipital or trigeminal neuralgia. But I'm leaning towards occipital neuralgia so far because it fits better with the history of my syndrome and the nature of neuralgic pain. I have DDD, pinched nerves and very tight painful muscles. Also, the intensity of the headache does not seem to always be parallel with the intensity of my rhinitis, but perhaps they don't necessarily have to be so. I have an old MRI from over 10 years ago, which pretty much came out normal, but I remember something about the sinus being mentioned, which I was told was very common and not symptomatic. I must admit though this is the closest thing to what I'm experiencing, so if treatment for occipital neuralgia fails, this will be the next theory I'll be working on.

      Eye problems, always and for a long time. They are very sore especially when I first wake up. They hurt when I move them, and my ears pop. I also have a weird case of blepharospasm since 2012. My eyelids constantly spasm and it feels like my eyes are spasming along with it on bad days. It feels like the push and pull is coming from the back side of my head and to the front like there's a band wrapped around it. Blurry vision was part of my fibromyalgia for a long time, but I must say supplemenation has decreased their frequency and severity for some reason, and I believe it might have to do with nerve health.

      Does the headache feel like it's one type of pressure pain all the time or does it kind of alternate on different days. Do you feel pins and needles, an electric current, or a hot wire running through your head. My speech is often heavy and slurred and it's usually consistent with the intensity of my headache. I experience a numb tongue at times and normal motor function seems to be malfunctioning. Anyways, whatever I find, I will share. It will be good insight for this forum.

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      Btw, did you by any chance have a bacterial infection? I've been researching this matter to see what could cause it. Was the CT scan taken of your profile to show the blockage?
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      Almost a week ago I had bacterial gastro. Now i have the feeling that I'm slightly drunk. I feel woozy. When I'm lying in bed and other people are moving I feel like I'm rocking in a boat. When I'm standing/sitting I also feel the same. Its constant.

      As i get motion sickness this is quite the problem and I've already vomited because of it just today (more than 3 full days since my gastro symptoms stopped).

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