SPINAL CORD STIMULATOR SIDE EFFECTS
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have had s c s. almost 1yr. have had 2 major infections 11 days hospitalisation & had to go into theatre to have wound opened and flushed out with antibiotics. also had to have first implant battery replaced as it was in wrong angle and wouldn't charge!! have had spinal fusion and failed back syndrome. SCS was only thing hadn't tried. got relief on back pain from beginning but find it really hard to walk now.....my legs seize up and i have to stop every few steps....always in pain when i try to walk. Have also felt pain and limitation in my arms especially when i try to lift arms up ie drying my hair etc. Have trawled internet to find anyone with similar experience no success....my surgeon & reps say my NEW symptoms have nothing to do with the stimulator i don't agree.....can anyone relate to what i'm going through....or am i just the only one...please help my partner who is lovely feels im not giving scs a proper go....he doesn't know how much pain my legs are in. Pat
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steve45447 patricia65203
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steve45447 patricia65203
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It is such a rigged system especially here in Louisiana. The code of blue is nothing compared to the code of white. Doctors get to be judged by a group of their piers before you can take them to court. There are suppose to be 3 unbiased doctors which don't happen. Trying to get a doctor to look at your case and state breach of care is impossible because every hospital has a contract to not get involved in law suits, in fact many do not take you for treatment if your problem is post op. I am trying to reach private practice out of state but that has not been fruitful. Other options involve that do this for a living but cost lots of money to get them to research and testify. Because of the damage I now can not work as before and make half of what I was and on the cheap spend $ 300.00 monthly on pain management and meds so been going backwards. Meeting with attorney Wednesday to come up with a plan as I will not let him get away with this.
Switching to you if the stimulator is causing you pain during use I would not use it and I would be very active in letting your insurance company, the hospital, the doctor and the stimulator company know of your problems. He obviously has the paddles hitting the wrong nerves so based on what I know I would want it removed and see if those pains cause by the procedure go away. Push all this as post op and keep this doctor, hospital, and stimulator company involved. Keep your journal with names, dates, and daily occurances as well as your daily condition.
Cynthia2018 patricia65203
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Hi there everyone, I'm new here. I found you through a good search. Anyway, I got the SCS (Medtronics) about 6 weeks ago. I had 3 failed back surgeries and the only two final options they gave me was the SCS or a morphine pump. Of course, I chose this option. The nagging pain I had before has pretty much left, which I am thankful for. However, I now have new pain that is almost worse than what I had before and located in a different place. It was for my lower back (which again, is better). The pain I'm experiencing now is in my back where the wires lead up to the spine (on both sides, trial side and permanent side). It's so strange. I can't stand long at all, can't sit very long. When I try to get ready to go someplace, it's excruciating pain getting ready, especially when I lift my arms to do my hair, it just makes it even worse. The reps keep putting it on a setting where it gets in my stomach and lower back, but it hurts my stomach. Do you think I just need an adjustment or does the Neurosurgeon need to know? Any answers would be helpful. Thanks so much!
Cynthia2018 patricia65203
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I meant "Google" Search , not good search. I need to proofread a little better before pushing send lol
deanna49755 patricia65203
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I had the Boston Scientific SCS permanent placed March 19,2018 this was my last resort, I have spinal stenosis, 2 disk that are minor bulge, and degenerative disk disease. At first the SCS was working for me, I feel as it’s not working for pain anymore, yes I feel the vibration, but not covering my pain. My battery was placed on the left side near my waist not very low, I’m not liking the feeling I’m having in my upper back where the leads are placed, feels like someone pressing there fingers in my back 24/7 I can’t pick anything up or bend down , cause the leads feel like they’re lifting and pulling. They did a X-ray and they said the leads look fine , and wanna do another injection June 7,2018 I DONT THINK SO 😡 I’ve had 5 injections before my SCS was placed nothing worked so what makes them think the 6 th injection will work. NOPE NOT ME .
foxy32222 deanna49755
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Hello Deanna,
This is only my opinion. First, it doesn't seem like the battery is placed right. I have mine on my right side of my buttock, it does not affect my movement or anything. I had mine put in "SCS" 2/18 of this year. Another thing, it will not take the pain away, but it is supposed to give you 50% relief. Have you had them to program the SCS yet? All I feel is vibration too, it only soothes my pain, and I guess that is what the Dr. is calling 50% relief. But I had to have it programmed a couple of times and I program the strength, which I keep it somewhat on low depending on my pain level and I adjust it from time to time. NOW.... I barely turn mine on because my pain level is about the same, sometimes it helps. I also use a heating pad. I do think you should have that battery moved in a different place on your upper buttock, on the side you won't be on most. And you should not be feeling any pulling or pressure, of course, the leads are okay, it's the location that seems to be bothering you. I understand you not wanting to get another shot, because the SCS was I think was to replace those, not saying you should not get them, but I don't feel it will help, but who am I to say what helps your pain, it's different for everyone, I been thinking about having mine removed since I barely use it, but right now my pain is a little better, and until it makes it worse I am okay I guess... :-)
Anyway, I hope things get better for you, keep in touch, and have a blessed day...
cindy62478 patricia65203
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patrick04238 patricia65203
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I have had a Boston Scientific SCS since 2012 . In 2016 I was in the FDA study for the sub perception settings , the ''no feel '' settings. I was in this study for a year. It went very well . I ended up keeping the settings in my implant because they worked so well. Then, in 2017 , I started getting really bad headaches sharp pain down my arm . I was getting steroid shots in my neck for the pain for the headaches , they were due to a bone spur growing in my C 1 disk , so they say ,and unable to operate according to 2 surgeons because it was to risky. They said , add another SCS to the head / neck. Add the new settings and try that. I did the trial as in the first , and it worked. I had that done in December of 2017 in Greenville, SC at St. Francis , never again , the worst place I have ever been to . The hospital was a dump, period . It is the only place at the time that did this , so I had no choice . The nurse put an IV in my arm and it dripped all over the floor just for starters ....It went all downhill after this .
My surgeon is rated the best in the state , everyone raves about this surgeon . I didn't have any issues with this surgeon . My issue is now with this implant . It is 5 years old , had 1 battery replacement now because I have 2 working off of it ....and now I have 8 of 16 leads out in my lower back one , Lumbar, and it doesn't work anymore and I have to get it replaced. My rep has no idea why these leads are gone , and the xrays show a broken wire . I saw him last , 2 weeks ago. I asked him whats going before I showed him the xray report . He said all is good....I showed him the xray report and well...the look was priceless. He lied and got caught. From being in the study , and doing my own research , I knew what was going on . I had been having stomach ,intestine and colon issues for 6-7 months now. Always feeling like I got to go . Everytime I went in to the rep to get it adjusted , he would have turn it up to reach the areas , which in turn , would increase my pain in my belly , and colon etc...my primary doc and I have been trying everything to figure it out , everything. Every test came back negative . Then one day after my last xray , I shut the whole thing down I was in so much stomach pain . That day I had just seen my Boston rep and asked him if there was any connection between my symptoms recently and these new settings ...nope no way he says ...
After the 12 hours , My back was killin me , and I turned it back on . Within an hour , I was sick all over again . I called my primary doc back, he said shut it down ,it is the problem. It is stimulating your stomach, intestines, colon etc and who knows what else and call the surgeon back. Easier said than done . You have to get a referral. This surgeon quit the hospital about a week after my surgery, I went for my follow up...gone . My problem now ...they want to put in a new one. But can't tell me why this happened , or why the leads , 8 of 16 burnt out. I have some serious trust issues now with a company who treated me well up until I asked some hard questions ....and they lied to me .When I asked my rep why the sickness connection ...he never heard of it before . I say BS. I have seen on some forms here and others of stomach issues . These guys are protecting the company they work for ...period. I have 0 trust in them after this. I have quite a bit of experience in this after being in the study. I asked a lot of questions , paid attention . I guess they do not like it when you educate yourself and come prepared with some information . Has anyone here had any stomach, intestine issues, crapping all the time, stomach aches really , really bad at times , especially after a tune up with your rep on sub perception , no feel settings ? If so , shut down your SCS for a day , if your symptoms clear up a bit , there's your problem . It is broken somewhere , a wire /wires and you have some leads out sending that current to your vital organs . You can check yourself on the remote . just play around with it as I did , I found out before he did , or at least until he told me when I confronted him .
Well after about 6 hours of this SCS being shut down , it's on 24/7 , I started to feel better in the belly dept.
After 12 hours ...pain free after almost 7 months of being on the toilet allday , craps in my gut .I couldn't eat without that ''I gotta go now '' feeling . My stomach was always hard . My colon felt swelled I guess is the best way to describe it . They tell me they have to remove it to find out whats wrong with it. I think they know and just don't want to tell me and want to ''destroy the evidence'', I just have no trust in any of these docs and reps anymore. I feel these folks are all in it for the cash . The sold me 2 SCS's in 5 years , and now want to sell another...500k each...to my insurance ....I smell a rat. Anyone out here have any similar problems , I could sure use the help. Thank you .....and by the way...I have had this off now almost 2 weeks, no more stomach , colon etc . issues , just a ton of back , headache pain from the first issue because it is shut down . Not sure I want to turn this thing on in my head now, who knows what the hell it will do in my head .
SleepyOne patrick04238
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It appears to me that that the placement of leads on the spine for lower back pain also affects the stomach muscles. I'm thinking that the nerves for both may be located on T9 because I found this article:
"Another anatomical problem in producing desired low back stimulation effects is the composition of the DCs (dorsal columns) themselves. The DCs are made up of white matter, which has very poor electrical conductivity, similar to fat. In order to obtain much penetration of current into the DC, the amplitude must be turned way up. In doing so, most of the current runs through the excellently conducting cerebrospinal fluid space off to the sides around the DR (dorsal root.) By the time the top 0.5 mm of the DC has been recruited, the nearby DR fibers have been completely stimulated. Clinically, the patient feels perhaps back and anterior leg stimulation (L2), but now the abdomen starts cramping (T9 dermatome)."
https://academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/7/suppl_1/S58/1818470
casey2269 SleepyOne
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Sorry highjacking this thread but I couldn't figure out how to start a new one.
Thank you for the article. This helps to know this info. It kind of fits with what I have going on. I also just saw the spine doctor that's going to put in the SCS and he said it sounds like costochondritis, which also seems to be a fit.
Still trying to see if I should go through with it or not. I'm going to see another doctor to get a second opinion.
steph25495 patricia65203
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Sorry I’ve had the SCS for god 10+ yrs and the past 3 yrs it has been non functioning. When I first had it my life changed pain was tolerable even went back to work until my dr talked me into putting in a new SCS of a different distributor and then all these problems started, wouldn’t keep a charge, then battery needed changing now leads are broke. But what you are describing about not being able to hold your arms up to blow dry your hair yes that is exactly what happened to me. It’s the worst feeling. The past week I’ve been feeling like I’ve gotten severely beaten on my left buttock cheek right under the SCS. Walking just moving makes me 😢. I am in pain anyway but this is just something else to cause me pain. I also have a morphine pump that I don’t think is doing much to block my pain. I’ve had so many surgeries I can’t remember how many. I have failed back syndrome also. My spinal cord is twisted, numerous bulging discs. I need another surgery and after that surgery my last one will be a complete spinal fusion of my spine so it will be immobile. It is collapsing and they need to stop it. Hope you have found relief.
ronald14656 patricia65203
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jane50163 patricia65203
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lost my post just now, so i will say quickly for the lady with CRPS. I also have that from a wrist fracture and it can spread throughout your body. if it seems like CRPS pain, it probably is your body rejecting the implant.
i have a medtronics interstim for nerve damage to my bowel/bladder. i have arachnoiditis from failed back syndrome. the CRPS is a non issue for me most of the time, but it does rear it's ugly head from time to time with than ungodly stinging pain.
i take no pain pills, because they make me sick to my stomach. I live with burning nerve pain, sciatica, back pain, loss of feeling (able to pass kidney stones and usually have no clue until i am peeing blood) etc. all the terrors of neuro problems.
IT sounds like many ppl have scs's that have inadvertently turned on nerve pain as a side effect. i notice this with my interstim. Nerves in our body are a wacky network! If ppl have new leg pain this could be he cause.
several years ago my pain mgmt doctor gave me leg braces for foot drop. it immediatly stopped the excrutiating leg, ankle and foot pain. I was literally in heaven at the new life they gave me. no more clump clump clump walking doing a # on my feet and ankles with every step until i'd just about be in tears and couldn't take another step.
i may be possible for those with leg pain that you also have foot drop from your spinal injuries. if you can't walk on your heels without your knees buckling in to hold yourself up = you have foot drop.
it is worth a shot to look into it. I know it saved me. Nothing i have can be cured. I am in my 60's now and have suffered since the 80's. I do the best i can with what still works and find work arounds for what is jacked up. i never give up.
hoping and praying for relief for you guys. every one of us know that nerve pain is absolute hell. a bath as hot as you can stand it will kill that pain immediately for enough relief to give your exhausted brain a MUCH needed rest. as long as you are in the tub the pain is gone!
when i hurt too much to even stand, i get off my feet and on a heating pad. idk which is worse, the pain or pills to kill the pain. for me it's the pills, so i only take one about 2x a year. i really hate them that bad!
steph25495 jane50163
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foxy32222 steph25495
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Hello Steph,
I feel what you are saying, I have been dealing with my pain since around 1993, I worked with it until 2007, at that point I wasn't able to walk in the building without being in so much pain, I just could not take it anymore. I now have a stimulator that is not really helping. I barely use it now. So as far as getting out into the world it's very limited, to the Dr, groceries, and pharmacy. Every now and then I might go to a family function. So you are not alone, I feel you. I wish you comfort and many blessing in the future. Take care and God bless you...