Spotting when I lift something heavy

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I was wondering if anyone else have had spotting after lifting heavy objects. I am 67 and in the last two or three years have had the occasional brown discharge, it always seems to be after I lift my sewing machine or heavy flower pots outside. The first time it happened I went for a pap, ultrasound and failed biopsy, the doctor could not get enough tissue, very painful. They told me everything looked fine but told me I had atrophy. Lately I have started to suffer from bladder urgency that comes and goes, probably drinking too much coffee. Can anybody relate to this? I tend to be a worrier, and would like to hear from anyone who knows a bit about atrophy.

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    Hi Friend, I know some about atrophy. I got it real early (38!) from sudden shut off of my hormones from an autoimmune autonomic neuropathy supposedly caused by an unfound cancer....my case is rare and not fully figured out. I went through rapid atrophy when my hormones dropped-estradiol from what we now know is my normal range of high 200's down to 30! My hpa axis/pituitary hormones keep coming back on line after months of ivig blood infusions and then tissues improve and gi and bladder function but then when I relapse I re-lose the hormones ans menses and have to keep going back on hormones. I hope to find underlying cancer that my body is trying to kill and that my body is instead attacking my nervous system affecting endocrine/pituitary...(autoimmune).

    With the initial atrophy in inner labia shrunk severely/some melding in to vulva in one days time and I lost subcutaneous fatty tissue from inside my vaginal canal that basically functionally shortened the vaginal canal feeling by an inch...periodically I have also had brown discharge in between times when my menses stops.

    Back to your story; It sounds to me like you need it looked at again where its happening when lifting...it would be important to know if the blood is coming from your uterus through the cervix or is it coming from some kind of injury or breakdown of the tissues and ofcourse not a mass). I am not a doc. Did you have your hormones tested (i presume you are post menopausal?) and also do you have pain upside aside from bladder urgency? were you tested for infections and sexually transmitted stuff if that's applicable? Glad you got pap and ultrasound. my gyn said uktrasound is still bed kind of inaging for gyn stuff....

    sorry for what you are going through! I can relate to the pain inside when my hormones go very low and I do know bladder urgency is a major symptom in atrophy...this is bc whole area including urethra apparently atrophies from what I understand and the tissues become friable. We are also prone to constant yeast infections, bacterial vaginosis and utis AND in my case with all the autoimmunity or due to hypoestrogenism I also had desquamative vaginitis requiring clyndamycin inserts on consecutive days (a antibiotic that is being used for antiinflamatory properties) which did relieve it

    as an aside wonder if you have other health issues. Along with my neuro/endocrine autoimmune illness i tested pos for small fiber neuropathy (ankle and hip biopsy) and that causes bladder issues as well as bowel and vaginal, autonomic, etc Most autoimmune sufferers are women.

    Hope you get some help here/answers.

    Best, Melissa

    ps Been seeing closed loved ones that are say older than 60 experience ageism in dealing with medical community. Things often get chalked up to older age when they are finding out that Alheimers is autoimmune neuro driven (autoantibodies at play)and same with Schizophrenia. I have a another friend with a rhematologic illness affecting his arms/legs but because he is 67 its like people treat him like thats to be expected with age when its autoimmune and there are treatments for it albeit risky ones....

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    Were you put on hormone cream after the atrophy diagnosis? I did not use the cream despite diagnosis as the atrophy did not cause any problems other than uncomfortable pap test. Three years later diagnosed with LS. If you are not using the cream I would start. I avoided it as my sister had stage 4 breast cancer at the time. Realize now it's better to just use it.

    Re the spotting, I have never had that despite constantly lifting things I shouldn't so best to discuss with your gyn.

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      Yes I used cream and it helped outer skin and taking the hormone pills both estrogen and progesteone helped but still didnt get my hormones high enough - the level it raised my levels to were still at the level at which I had atrophied (etradiol at 90)...they also suspected Lichen Schlerosis with me but specialist gyn ultimately felt it was just atrophy from hormone loss never had the white patchy stuff or parts sticking together but architecture can also go missing that way too so I guess the two (atrophy and la) get confused....

      Hope our friend here gets help soon and that research and treatment options in womens health get better...

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    I was never on hormones, when the doctor or maybe it was the nurse that did the pap test told me about the atrophy, I didn't really have any symptoms, but during the last three years I realize that I do. My husband and I no longer have sex cause it is too painful. I am scheduled for an ultrasound, probably be awhile because if the coronavirus, will ask about hormone cream when I see my doctor. Thank you both for your quick response.

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    Am also wondering what LS is?

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    I also forgot to say that I have three small fibroids and had a polyp removed several years ago. Will be glad to get the ultrasound, mvaybe another polyp could be the reason for the spotting.

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      LS is lichen schlerosis which seems to be an autoimmune condition of the vulva/labia...but I believe in spairs the vaginal canal where atrophy affects the canal and outer vagina.

      Yes I believe fibroids can cause spotting-my mom had them and or polyp and her symptoms inclused spotting but cant be sure so glad you will try to get answers from obgyn...covid getting in the way of lots...we have to push harder for help...outside the box. Docs have to trust patient reports more but when exams and tests are actuay needed is when it gets tough.....

      Good luck, keep us posted Friend.

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    I have had vaginal atrophy very severely. I'm 64 years old and I have to use the Vagifem pessaries that you insert to get any relief I have got to use them I don't have a choice . It is the most unpleasant thing it causes so many problems urgency soreness painful bladder burning you name it the this goes on there needs to be more research into this. I'm fine at the moment no symptoms. I have never had the discharge that you speak of so I would probably make sure that everything is ok but I think you've probably already done that but pursue if you're not happy with what they've said. The LS they're talking about it's something called lichen sclerosis ( think I may have spelt that's wrong) I don't know a lot about it I haven't got it but it causes white patches very sore and brittle skin down in the vaginal area, as far as i know.

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