starting shoulder therapy today
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Will today I see the therapist to see if it will help my shoulder. Scared that it won't. At least I know the therapist since my daughter saw her for her dislocated kned and sprain ankle.
A guy was in one day and he was having therapy and I could tell it was his shoulder that he was in for, I know that look of pain way to well.
If theray doesn't work and if I have to face surgery on it my family will fall part. I just had my gallbladder out in November. Plus my daughter getting hjrt to dea with. Plus husband alway depressed. To much to deal with.
No support from family. Some from friends but they are to busy to feally care to check in. I'm left handed and its my left shoulder that is messed up.
Love the support I get here. I real need it. Feel like forgetting therapy since my husband won't help keep things cleaned up and working around here for the better. Frustrated big time.
I posted what the doctor called my shoulder problem on another posting. Really don't like fancy words. He said I had two things wrong and if therapy doesn't work then I'm looking at surgery.
Typing is hurting my shoulder so time to quit.
Lori
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jeanette05609 lori73442
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AliceVictoria jeanette05609
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Crazy cat ladies rock!!!🐱🐈
AliceVictoria lori73442
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I haven't seen your original post,bust just know that I understand your situation on all
regards,as pain is frustrating,and you need support.Also unless you have your arm in
some sort of visible support,people can't see your pain,and understand.I have heaps of issues with neck and spinal problems with osteoarthritis (also in wrists,hip,and ankles)mAnd have had whiplash from car accidents,fractured collarbone,and now two rotor cuff tears and bursitis which luckily cortisone has helped.Mine is my right shoulder,and I am right handed,and am so weak in both hands,the amount of things I have dropped and broken isn't funny.I have a good husband,who helps,but even he is sometimes not quite aware of what I shouldn't do,and because he has a small business,I sometimes end up carrying boxes to and from the car,and at work,because people end up falling over things if I wait for him to do it.He sometimes says,we'll just take smaller loads...and then I drop them.😄which proves my point.But he is good,doing vacuuming,gardening,heavy shopping etc.,Depression is something a lot of people still have a stigma about,and it is a hard thing to deal with for everyone,particularly the carer.I had issues resulting from the death of my parents at almost the same time,and their terminal illnesses,and family dysfunction,which still continues, with estate fight etc.,which resulted in a breakdown,The psychiatrist said at the time,to a degree you have to help yourself and try different strategies,as they don't have a magic crystal ball to cure depression,anxiety eye.I had to force myself to socialise,and keep my brain active,and it helped enormously,although time was a factor.I have just started having Physio,and the therapist is considerate,and dies an evaluation,and targets treatment to your needs,and will go slow.I still may need surgery after six months,but had major Breast surgery last year,and had fantastic healing,and was discharged after five months,although again,I had council home care,and assistance from hubby.Do you have a good relationship with your GP,and can you discuss your fears and concerns with him,and maybe get a care plan going,particularly if you have other medical issues,and they will go into your personal issues of home duties eye.,as you cannot shoulder the whole load.Something has to give at some time,and your daughter and your own health and wellbeing is as important as that of your husband. Take care Lori.
lori73442
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So some one is lying to me. Orthopic said I had two issues. Gave me a cortisone shot which was hell in itself. Took three days to for it feel better.
Did a lot of cleaning things up around here last Friday and by that night the pain was so bad I couldn't get my shirt off.
So I guess the pain and issues I have is all in my head. Tried to get things better and now I feel like dirt. The orthopic wanted to see me again in April after I had therapy but don't know if its worth it. Do I tell him what she said, cancel April, or go see some one else and waste more money that we should be using for other medical issues that can come up later. We only have so much insurance money.
Daughter thinks she didn't like me this whole time that she was getting therapy for her leg. Know she doesn't want to go in next week for therapy.
I'm more frustrated now then ever. Husband wasn't happy what the therapist said to me. I pretty much got a counsoling season then therapy for the shoulder.
Seeing my daughters therapist wasn't a good idea. I had figured I would feel more comfortable with some one I a,ready knew. Lesson learned.
If you don't go see a doctor who's not a chiropractor then the other doctors don't believe you. Chiropractor is the only one since 1997 that gave a damm about my shoulder. That is why I went to see him back in April when I was hurt. So since therer is no proof of torn muscles and sprain there is nothing wrong with my shoulder. Should have had an expensive mri done when we had no one is what she pretty much said. Plus she said I should leave my husband.
So sick of people teling just leave. I don't work. I don't drive. I have six cats and four chickens. A husband who I knows loves me but has his own issues. He might not show me he loves me at times but in my heart I know he loves us.
So I have know idea what to do anymore. Last night we had a lovely dinner together talking about stuff and what happened at therapy. Husband got a jigsaw puzzle out so we can work on it. So we had a good night.
Lori
Thanks for your support Jeanette and AliceVictoria
jeanette05609 lori73442
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AliceVictoria lori73442
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I feel so sorry for you,and your Medical system is obviously very different to here,as I have a wonderful Doctor,who I can get in to see just about anytime I want,if I have an urgent issue.He is so thorough,and referred me to the XRay centre just down the road.They sent the results of Ultrasound and other tests to him,and he organised the Physio.Because I injured myself in a store,when I slipped on fruit,they are liable for the bills,although I signed a disclaimer to say I wouldn't sue.I am only on an age pension now,but unfortunately my clinic doesn't 'bulk bill'where a lot of pensioners get Medicare funded visits,and don't pay anything.Generally I just pay the gap fee of $20,and Medicare sent the Doctor a cheque for the balance.People on Welfare whose Doctors bulk billed,whinged here about the proposal from Government about paying a co-payment of $7 for a Doctor visit,they are so selfish some people here,and don't realise how good we get it with Medical,generally,unless you are Private,and then things are way more expensive.Our General Practitioners can refer us to any Surgeon,for any reason,or any therapist,so you can say who you want to see or question their choice if you have heard negative things.My Doctor is thorough,but he will have a joke,and is a lovely person. Can you change the therapist for your little daughter,as it is wrong she doesn't want to go,poor pet. My physio had to study the results of the scans,to explain what the rotor cuff problem was,and then tailor the treatment.It hurt like hell that night and seems to be worse,but maybe that is part of the treatment.Having said that,with you,I would not be going back to her,and you are not imagining pain.That was what the Doctor at the hospital said to me when I went with the fractured collarbone,and was in excrutiating pain...Oh,you can move your hand and arm,so it isn't broken,An XRay proved it was,so that really is the only way that anyone can see what the problem is,and an ultrasound is even clearer,as sometimes stress fractures don't show up on XRay's.I think you still need to go ahead with your APRIL appointment,but feel you need urgent attention from someone who can arrange the scans for you.
When I had my breakdown,I saw a silly,young piece,in her twenties,no life experience,who also tolls me to leave my husband.Because he comes from a farming family who lived in the bush,and had no access to Medical services unless it was urgent, who used to splint their own breaks,and put metho on sores and cutts they don't have much time for pain,or depression or anything,and even when my Mother-In-Law had a Mastectomy,she was out hanging washing,etc,a fortnight later,he doesn't have much tolerance for medical issues.When he had Prostate cancer three days after his operation,it was our EASTER Fair and he was still in hospital,he walked down to the night procession,stitches and catheter still in.He copped a telling off from the medical staff.When I had my Breast surgery,I had to get the surgeon and Nurse offside and tell them to spell it out to Ken what I wasn't allowed to do,and for how long otherwise he would have had me out doing housework a day after I came home.It is the same,he is a good man,but because of his upbringing (his Mum has never kissed or hugged him,just her way),he doesn't show a lot of emotion,but is good to me,and like yours,loves me in his own way.He is so good to my family,and does so much for them in monetary ways,and taking them on holidays etc.
Don't any notice of others,as that was what I used to hear when I first met him, as he was a Batchelor,and set in his ways. It is your life,and we also have a lot of wonderful times together.He paid $12,000 for my surgery,as otherwise I would have waited on public health,and had to travel to the city.I don't drive either.He took me to see a girlfriend in Scitland,and to Mum's birthplace last year,and a cruise at XMAS,as he cashed in his work Superannuation.
So,hang in there,it is just a matter of you finding someone to get those XRay's and an Ultrasound done,and work from there,as no one can say it is in your head,until they have that proof,and even then,it is not conclusive. You know your own pain.I wish I could give you my email,and talk further.
Live all those cats.I only have one Big Bad Boof,my little rescue,Lily was stolen.
Take care Lori,and let us know what you can do about the Scans.
Alice x
AliceVictoria jeanette05609
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Pain is not in your head,and no one is qualified to say that,without proper proof.Had a crappy day yesterday with a Migraine,and pain through sleeping awkwardly on my arm and neck,so today am having coffee and cake with a cat loving friend.Yesterday,when I took migraine meds,and went back to bed,Boof knew I was miserable,so lay on the bed with me.I could not live without a cat,or two,or more,only we are limited to two per household here,unless you have a licence,or a shelter. Have a great day.😻🐈
AliceVictoria lori73442
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I just responded to your post,but for some reason,it is being moderated.Not sure why,as there were no links,no bad language or email addresses or whatever.Basically I said the same as Jeanette,but a lot more,about my situation and yours,and just the point,that you need to get an XRay and Ultrasound,as no one can say it is in your head,and pain is real.No one can make a diagnosis,or plan treatment,if they don't have the scans to show where the Injury is,as you may have more than one issue,the same as me.I hope the other answer comes through.Give all those gorgeous cats a cuddle for me.We are only allowed a maximum of two cats per household,and must be desexed,microchipped,and councio registered.
Alice. X
lori73442 AliceVictoria
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In 1997 my chiropractor took xrays showed my shoulder wasn't fully in the socket, the orthoptic didn't understand what he meant by that. This is why I don't like going to a doctor without my husband. Yes he hurt me but he wasn't himself and was seeing a bad counsoulor at the time. Sorry for spelling errs. Dr. Hart cared and showed me the xrays back then. Dr. Federov seemed ok but I never saw the xrays. Wondering if I should send my husband in to talk to him. At this point I'm done with doctors, except my chiro. Dr. Hart retired but he brought in Kevin and love him too. He's great!
I love my op. General doctor is ok. I have seen a gastro doctor once and it wasn't for my gallbladder it was to cover my generals doctors butt after I had mono and still had pain, finally was told it was fibro.
I didn't see a gp. I went right to the orthopedic after the therapist treating my daughter said yes it wasn't to late to get help for it. I can see any doctor without being referralled to a special doctor.
Husband is wondering if we should get a second doctor to check things but I'm just to hurt to go through more doctor bs. He said maybe in a month if I need a break, I'm just to confused. Husband was mad when I told him she said its all in my head.
I'm 44 and have had a hurt shoulder since my sophmore year in high school. Really the pain is all in my head. Daughter doesn't want to go in for her therapy next week. Kid knows me to will and new I was hurting and upset.
Any thoughts on what to do will be greatly welcome. I really felt she didn't want to help me from the sta and just wanted to hand me off to a counselor to hear more bs. Sick of people telling me to leave my husband. He hurt me once and he regrets it. He just can't deal with pain issues to well. I'm totally confused. Wish we had money to go to the coast for the kids four days offc this week. The beach is were I can reknew my head but no money to go.
I'm glad my husband thinks the pain in the head thing is bs.
Sorry about your migrane. I get sinus pressure headaches and a few migrane level, chiro really helped me get read of those headaches. Now to find a long term for sinus pressure, I take sudafred for it. It helps for awhile if not a good hot shower helps.
All are cats are fixed. Oldest are twins 15. Youngest will be a year old in April. Two have chips since we got them at shelter. Last one showed up in our chicken area. He acts like a dog chewy on everything. Our max was 5 but after finding Oscar (he has an O on his sides) we just had to keep him. We had a grey tabby and lost him years ago at 17 years old. So its nice having an orange tabby. Three are calico. Ones all black. Our other boy is white with black. Last two our daughters cats and long hair.
Thanks for caring!
Lori
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AliceVictoria lori73442
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I would say if you like Dr.Federov,by all means,ask hubby to see him,as at least you know him,and you don't have to go through everything.Also,Kevin sounds great,amd it wouldn't hurt to just ask him if he knows what the main problem seems to be with the pain you are in.
Your being told by people that you need therapy,is not helping,as I always believe strongly,everyone knows their own body,and pain threshold,and you need that validated.I know it easier said than done,but see if you can get an answer from the Doctor and chiro,as they sound genuinely helpful and caring.It is a shame your daughter can't see someone she feels better about also. Do you have a close friend or a sister or someone who you could just go out for coffee with,and a chat,as that is always nice just to get out amongst people and share your thoughts.A pity we didn't live close,and I could shout you coffee and cake,and make you feel a bit better.Don't hesitate to contact me Lori.Thinking of you.x
Sometimes being worried and stressed does start a migraine off with me so I try some deep breathing to calm down,but physio therapist said shoulder and neck pain can affect your glands and jaw,as can inflammation.
lori73442 AliceVictoria
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Samantha seemed to like the therapist until I saw her. Daughter doesn't like people hurting me. I didn't want her to know what happened but since I get emotional and become a wreck she knew something was wrong. I'm pretty sure next Friday she would be released from therapy but she doesn't want to go in.
When her dad my husband started changing into his depression she got very confused. It hasn't been easy, but when he left us week she won't forgive him. No matter what I say nothing helps. She is doing this audio recording thing at school and I got her to show her dad how it worked, they had fun. As you can see I have a lot to deal with. Getting mad at the therapist when she said the pain is in my head really got me mad and I'm trying to think everything through again.
1 I love my husband
2 he regrets hurting me
3 protecting myself and daughter comes first over anything
4 sick of people telling me to leave my husband, he loves me deep down.
5 I know I get bored being a stay home mom so I need to exercise more and set what I want to get down that day.
6 I got to stop trying to fix things with daughter and husband. Husband is miserable and unhappy only he can fix that, I can't let him bring me or our daughter down with him. Daughter needs to spend more time with her dad and rshe needs to realize he's still the guy she loves to joke around with.
7 make sure we all talk without anger everyday.
Counseling isn't the answer. I don't trust them. He was seeing one when he hurt me. I realize every one here as an excuse for almost everything.
As more my shoulder I have know ideas. Husband going to try to talk to Federov. Doctors don't seem to like chiropractors but I love mine. Since mri and xrays weren't done in April federov and therapist don't believe there was an major damage like torn muscles or that more should was ever gets dislocated since back in the 80's and 97 and April no mri was done. Xrays was done in 97 and chiropractor said my shoulder wasn't fully in the socket which Federov said what's does that mean? So I have learned this month that therapist and orthopitic don't like chiropractors.
Husband going to see if we can just go in and talk to Federov together, go over the resuletes of the xrays. Plus I think I should have send my xrays to my gp and maybe Kevin too. Husband and I are so frustrated with this whole thing. Do we go see a second doctor? Do we just let it go for now? Physio therapist said she didn't feel anything wrong and that it just in my head, I know that's not true. Hurt shoulder in the 80's I know what I can and can't do. I have good days and bad days.
I didn't know jaw aches can be because of shoulder and neck issues. My jaw was almost broken years ago and when I get stress I clamp my jaw to tight, dentist saw that one time I was in but haven't been in for almost three years now. So I don't know what to do about my jaw hurting.
People put doubt in your head and make you feel like dirt its hard to figure what's really going on and what to do for it.
My friends all work and never have time for me. Most of them know what happened in April but know checks one me to see how things are going. Plus they all have had divorces, seperated, kids issues, and one has a husband that has gone totally crazy so they are to busy for me. No family members care. Mom disownef me when I stood up to her when she started treating my husband like dirt and I told her I don't like the way she treats me. Being the longest my husband and I have moms that still treat us like babies. His mom said I deserved being hurt so I won't talk to her ever again.
Birth sisters haven't been in my life in years, their choice. In 97 midle sister left her husband lived with us for a month and then left and didn't hear from her again. I don't know my half brother he's older and I have been told he's like my father abusive. Mom turned other family members against us, they don't live near us anyway. I have two friends who are like true sisters but ones in Georgia and other one is in Nevada. So we have no support system just the three of us and cats and chickens.
I'm grateful for you two helping me. I wasn't really stressed yesterday but shoulder was hurting and jaw. At least the pain in the shoulder wasn't bad most of the day only got bad when I tried cooking some frozen turkey we had out. I didn't know it was frozen when I left the zip lock bag that was on a plate and almost dropped it. Ended up doing something else for dinner.
Trying to get past those words from the therpist its hard too. Looks like we might have a good day for a walk. Husband said we can go to the coast if everything works out Friday. He's always worried about my shoulder and daughters leg so he doesn't want us to over do it. Since daughter has only today left of school was hoping for her four days off to have it all at the coast but we can't afford it so one day is better then none.
Thanks you two for caring.
Lori
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I don't know why when I go in by myself seems to me doctors don't take me surious and confuse me.
Husband and I are trying to figure out if we should see a different doctor and who it should be. I never saw the xrays. Wondering if I should have them sent to my gp and/or chiropractor. What is it with doctors when you say you see a chiropractor think treat you like your crazy and have no brains.
Husband going to call the doctor at his lunch time. See if he can come and talk to Federov. I don't want surgery. I just want the pain to mostly go away. Ask for all pain to go away isn't going to work.
When I told the therapist my whole arm went numm the whole week that my husband left us she just said you got to do what you have to no matter what. So I felt she didn't care if I did more damage to my arm. Plus she got on my case about not driving. The more I think about what she said to me makes me wish I just walked out then keep letting her get in my head.
christine49368 lori73442
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Im glad your husband is going to see the doctor, who needs to know that the physio is so disbelieving. Of course you have a real problem. You need to be referred to a different physio or chiropractor. I personally prefer a chiropractor or sports physio.
Chris x
lori73442 christine49368
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Kevin will look at the xrays if I can get federov to send them to him. Kevin said most doctors don't like chiropractors and I told him that's wrong. So when I talk to the doctor I will just use kevins last name with dr with it. The lokks you get when you say chiropractor makes you feel stupid for going to them. They are the only ones that have fully cared about my shoulder.
Kevin was shocked that the physio said that the pain is just all in my head. Yes I'm on first name with kevin he's great and has been great throughout this whole thing.
Feeling better about myself since talking to kevin. I went for a walk and stopped at Walmart and got my daughter a locket for v-day, not my favorite holiday, that's when hell broke out in my house as a kid and my dad was arrested, best part was the divorce. Worst part I had the flu and we had to go to a safe house. So I'm not a big v-day person. I try to be.
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