Surgery scheduledoesn't in 4 days; input would be appreciated!

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Hello, group. I understand that there was already a discussion on endolymphatic sac decompression (no shunt), but i would really some advice. My surgery is scheduled on March 7th and i am extremely nervous. I'm a 27 year old female who was diagnosed with Meniere's disease last July. I was prescribed a diuretic and to get on a low sodium diet. Easier said than done but we have to do what we have to do. Meniere'so completely took over my life and ripped my independence from me. There were times I would be driving to work and have an attack out of no where. I would than have to call someone for a ride because episodes last hours for me and I cannot even keep my head up during an episode let alone drive a vehicle. Extreme nausea, vomiting, sweating, dizziness normally preceded my a more full ear, but not always...seems like a lot of you know the drill, unfortunately. Meniere's not only takes over your phycially, but mentally. You clearly can't be as dependable as you would like to be for work, friends or family. Bills have to be paid and relationships need to be maintained ...but all you can do when your having an episode is lay there in misery. It's truly miserable and I would like to say I'm so sorry to each and everyone of you who have to go through this. You wake up wondering when your next attack is going to be. People really don't understand unless they are going through it for themselves. After countless episodes... i have had almost 8 months with no episodes!!! I am so thankful, but unsure of what i should do with respect to getting the surgery. I understand that ultimately I will have to make the decision but some input would be nice. Should I postpone the surgery? Thank you guys

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    I am unsure as to how to delete this post, but I made a mistake. I did not mean to say I haven't had an episode in almost 8 months...I meant to say 8 weeks. I haven't had an episode in almost 8 weeks*

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    Hi Brittany.  Since you have not had an episode of vertigo for 8 months I think you should wait on the surgery and try other non invasive protocols first.  What have you done in the past 8 months that you think might have stopped the vertigo episodes?  Something seems to be working for you....try to identify it. 

    Most folks with MD have tried the following protocols BEFORE Decompression surgery.  You might want to do this, too....

    1.  diuretic such as Dyazide of 25 or up to 50mg/day along with eliminating salt, caffeine, alcohol.  Dyazide contains potassium so that you do not risk dehydration side effects.

    2.  control stress episodes with Ativan or similar sedative which also helps control tinnitus and ear fullness.

    3.  have your ENT doctor prescribe Betahistine.  They will probably start you on a low dose of 4mg or 8mg three times/day and work up to 16mg three times a day.  The dose will likely be increased even further if you still have episodes. Betahistine eliminates vertigo for many MD sufferers but might take up to 2 months to be effective.  It is absolutely worth trying.  If you are in the USA, any compounding pharmacy will be able to fill the script for you.  Insurance normally does not cover.

    4.  Discuss having intratympanic steroid injections to relieve inflammation and fluid in inner ear.  This has been effective for many patients and has almost no side effects and can be done in doctor's office.  Just be sure doctor is experienced doing this procedure

    5.  If all of the above still fail to relieve vertigo then I would try gentamicin injection which is effective in eliminating vertigo in about 85% of patients.  It has side effects so discuss carefully with your doctor.

    6.  If that still fails then consider the decompression surgery.

    As you can see there are a lot of "steps" to consider before decompression surgery.  Good luck! 

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      Thanks so much for your reply. Means a lot that you took the time to give me your insight. Very helpful. I'm new to this board; i'm extremely displeased I can't delete and correct my post. I haven't had an episode in almost 8 weeks... not 8 months. I am prescribed a diuretic, meclizine, low sodium diet and ativan as needed.

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    Oh Britney, I feel for you so much. Big hugs sweet pea! I went through life with early MD exactly like you. There does seem to be a progression and for a lot of people those violent attacks subside and other issues remain...tinnitus, hearing loss, balance issues and dizziness but it sounds like you have been prescribed the standard beginning treatment options. 2 months with no episodes since you started treatment? That's promising! I've had MD almost 2 decades and have never had any surgeries but in the beginning I didn't seek treatment for years because I thought I was experiencing extreme sinus issues . I'd never heard of MD and I was 35 and healthy...who woulda thunk? Lol

    I have bilateral hearing aids now and my vertigo is controlled and I think my brain has done a good job tuning out the dumb tinnitus. Sorry I'm not more help but I wanted to chime in to say there is a long, full life to be lived even if you have MD. Hang in there, you'll get this licked!

    ~Mary

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      Mary, I cannot thank you enough for sending me such a thought-out and caring comment. I have been a part of this forum for about 6 months reading through the threads but had never posted myself until the other day. Hearing such positivity from someone who has MD is very uplifting. You truly understand what it'says like and it feels so good having someone in the same boat talk to you about it. Doesn't matter which age we are or if we are impeccably healthy; can happen to any of us. Thanks for the positivity, Mary.

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    Hi Britney, I read your story and did some research on this kind of surgery since none of the many ENT doctor's I've seen have mentioned this to me. There are numerous medical studies full of information regarding this procedure if you do a search. It sounds like a very viable option for relief with few side effects. I have had MD for about 2 years now, have lost all hearing in left ear and live with tinnitus 24-7. The vertigo has subsided considerably in the last 6 months. I have had only 5 or 6 episodes in the 6 months. I have a T-tube in my ear. Not sure if it helps, just thought I would add the information. I am 65 years old but age seems to mean little with this disease. I have a low salt diet, no alcohol and do not smoke. I am in good health otherwise. I take amitriptylinenight so I can sleep. The support drugs I take when I have a vertigo attack are Meclizine for dizziness, Cloazepam (Valium) for panic attacks and vertigo symptoms, Glycopyrrolate for nausea. They all seem to help me when I have an attack. I recover much quicker and the symptoms are less severe. Not sure if I helped, just thought I would offer some of my backround. You can't have enough information with this awful disease. I wish you the best and hope you can find some relief so you can carry on with your life.

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      Hi, Daniel! What a beautiful and thoughtful comment to read through. MD is truly a beast that no one can understand unless you are experiencing it for yourself, so i really appreciate you reaching out. My family and friends are great and very supportive; but it means a lot hearing from someone who REALLY understands. I am sorry you have to deal with this crap to begin with, but I am so glad you are getting it under control. As I said in another comment, MD happens to people any age at any point of the health spectrum. How long do your episodes last? Would you ever consider getting surgery?
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    Hi there Britney and thank you for sharing your story about your MM. I would suggest what Tanner mentioned. Try the non-invasive approach before you have a procedure like this done. As with any surgery, there are complications some more serious that could make things worse. Triggers are a big part of this. For me, it’s a combination of diet and stress. For diet, I control just about everything I put into my body. It’s a big lifestyle change, but when I was presented with surgical options I opted for the non-invasive approach. One question. Ménière’s is difficult to diagnose. How did your ENT come to that conclusion? Can you share your diagnosis?

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      Hi, David! Thanks for the comment. I agree non-invasive should absolutely be first. January is when I had the surgery booked but was unable to get an appointment until March 7th. At that point, I had been on the low sodium diet and diuretic for months... and I still kept having horrendous episodes! I would love to say "here is the identifying evidence" that led me to these episode free 2 months; but i cannot! It truly makes no sense. I wish I had answers so I could be helping other people deal with their vertigo but I truly have not been doing anything differently. I did call yesterday and decide that I'm going to hold off on the surgery. It was a tough decision, as I have read that many people experience a "lull" in episodes before it comes back... but I cannot justify having a surgery when I'm not experiencing symptoms. I have been to 4 different ENT doctors. Overkill, much? All diagnosed me with Meniere's however two of the doctors were nightmares because they made me feel like there was nothing I could do to help get this under control. T sucks hearing a doctor basically make it sound like you hardly have options. That is a part of why I kept seeking help. I was referred to a vestibular and balance Disorder Center; they actually treated me like a person. I had audiology testing, VNG testing, ECOG testing, MRI, dizzy chair... any test associated with meniere's, i have had. LolThe surgeon in have met with is a neurotologist. I am so happy that you have found a way to manage your meniere's!

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    YOU are welcome. Again, I appreciate your willingness to share your story. I think you’ve made a good choice, so let’s see how things go for you. A few things to note. Low sodium is described as 1500mg or less. Some MM sufferers drop to 1000mg. You’d be surprised how much sodium exists in food especially processes food. Eggs for instance, I love them, but they each carry about 70mg. Three eggs for an omelet pushed you to 210. Add a piece of toast and you’re at 400mg. Also, you want to spread your intake throughout the day, so you would only have 100mg left. Add milk or butter and you’re past the limit per meal. I now use 2 eggs and mix in a lot of vegetables like spinach and broccoli. Also add mushrooms and tomatoes and soon you have a very filling meal. And still below the limit. It’s not easy, but it takes time. Did you increase your diuretic to 50mg? Try that for a few months and monitor your kidney function. So much to talk about. Anyway, good luck.
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      I can really tell if I fall off the low sodium low sugar diet. My tinnitus increases (is that possible?? lol apparently so) ear fullness comes back.

      1000mg is always my goal. Seems to be the magic number for me. Cooking at home is the key. There's SO much sodium in processed foods, fast food, restaurant foods, deli foods. I work in a deli and was astounded at the volume of sodium in EVERYTHING we make as well as the deli meats we slice. The low sodium options still have 400mg per serving. Insane!

      All the best!

      ~Mary

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      Hi Mary. I have the same problem when I over do it on the sodium. Even with the diuretic I am vigilant. This is my scenario so far; obviously, it doesn’t work for everyone especially those folks who have MM as a result of the HPV virus. Antiviral treatment has shown a lot of progress for those patients. An aside here. When you go on a low sodium diet you begin to taste the salt in natural food like meats. I use hot sauce (Tabasco) when I want tastesmile
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      Oh my goodness are you right! After going low sodium if I eat something salted "normally" or off the shelf processed stuff it tastes SO salty. There's just way too much salt added to everything. smile Something like Mrs Dash or a spice mixture salt substitute adds a bit of flair with no sodium. smile

      All the best!

      ~Mary

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