Symfony toric lens cataract surgery September 2017

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First off, I would like to thank profusely everyone who has commented about their cataract surgery experience, especially softwaredev.  I've learned a great deal, but I'm still anxious about my two Symfony toric cataract surgeries scheduled for 6 (right) & 13 (left/dominant) September 2017.

I'm 67 and have an active lifestyle: skiing, cycling, hiking, and climbing.  I have stigmatisms, am quite myopic, and have worn glasses for more than 60 years.  Glasses corrected my vision to 20/20, near & far, until last year. I gave up on hard and soft contact lenses about 20 years ago.

The plan is micro-monovision with a goal for 20/20 both eyes throughout the range of vision (as I understand it.)  During the consultation, the surgeon said that he would probably use the ZXT 150 lens, but that he was going to analyze my measurements a bit more before making a decision.

I had asked about "reverse" micro-monovision because I use my right-eye exclusively for an optical scope sometimes, but the surgeon said that "reverse" was problematic and not as predictable as the normal micro-monovision.

I would be grateful to hear from anyone who has experienced or knows about "reverse" micro-monovision.

The surgeon said that I would have better depth perception with this approach than if a monofocal toric lens were placed in my left eye and the Symfony toric lens in my right eye.

Halos, starbursts, and glare are not too important to me as I rarely drive on busy public roads at night.

The surgeon's informational packet has a couple of booklets extolling the wonders of laser cataract surgery, but he told me that there would be no difference in the outcome between laser and blade surgery.  The professional literature seems to be mixed on this question, but my feeling is to go with blade because that's what the surgeon first suggested;  he was #1 in his undergraduate class at Harvard (physics, concentration in optics), graduated from Duke Medical School with highest honors, and has had an extremely successful practice for 20 years.

The surgeon said that he would do the surgeries with laser if I wanted, so I would be interested to know if anyone on "Patient" has had cataract surgery and would recommend it over blade for specific reasons.

The surgeon will not do a LRI with me and he does not believe that I shall require a lasik enhancement post-op for excellent vision.

The surgeon's literature states:

"The ORA laser scan is used as need.  The ORA takes intraoperative wavefront aberrometry readings."

The Symfony literature states:

"1. Automated examinations may not give reliable results.  These may include: auto refractors using infra-red light, wavefront sensors, photo reactors, and the Duochrome test. Manifest refraction with maximum plus technique is recommended."

Is the ORA problematic in view of Abbot's advice about measurement?

About 7% of Symfony patients (per Abbot) have some problem related to the surgery;  I shall try to mitigate any complication by taking the anti-inflammatory drops exactly as directed and generally using common sense:  no heavy lifting, hard exercise, eye-rubbing, fast movement for a fortnight.  The surgeon will administer an anti-biotic shot during the surgeries.

My German Shepherd, Vait, goes everywhere with me;  although he won't be in the operating theatre, the surgeon said that it would be fine if he accompanied me on this trip. (I had been a bit worried about infection.)I would be grateful for any other tips anyone might have for good recovery.

The day after surgery apparently I should be able to drive;  that will entail Denver freeways and then about 150 miles of mountain driving.  Again, it would be helpful to hear from people who have had challenging driving directly after cataract surgery.

I live on a ranch and for about five weeks after the surgeries I plan to deal with paperwork rather than the dirty, dusty work of the ranch in the hope that my eyes will be completely healed when I do return to what makes the ranch actually run.

The cataract in my right eye is getting really bad.  Hence I am inclined to get this done now.

My left eye has a small cataract, but that eye is still correctable to 20/20 with glasses.  The surgeon's advice is to do the left eye as well now, albeit new cataract lenses are in development.  Given his high success rate I'll take his advice. Each iteration may well be better, but the Symfony usually has excellent results and its doubtful that any toric lens will ever be perfect. Sometimes it's better not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. 

Has Symfony (Abbot) published any data on studies of cataract patients with astigmatism >1 d?

In sum, I would really appreciate any advice for the procedure and recovery which anyone may have.

Thanks very much for your consideration!

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    Myself I wouldn't want to get the second eye done only a week after the first eye.  I would want at least a month for the first eye to heal since you would be dependent on that eye a lot while the second eye is healing.

    I don't know if driving such a long distance the day after surgery is recommended, the eye surgeons I have gotten consultations with recommend being driven for the surgery and the day after checkup.

    I have more significant astigmatism myself, almost 3D, so I am planning a Tecnics monofocal toric for my right eye with the higher astigmatism and for distance since its my dominant eye and has the worse cataract. My left eye has only an early stage cataract that doesn't affect my vision yet so it could wait a few years probably and use a contact until then.  I may consider a Toric Symfony IOL for the left eye if I don't get enough focus range from the monofocal in the right eye. 

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      Very good point about waiting especially since he's considering mini mono vision.  I waited three weeks and had mini mono vision and had my second eye 1/2 diopter in from distance.

    • Posted

      Thank you, Night-Hawk:

      Based upon what several people have said, I'll get a ride to the surgeon's office on the 7th & 14th for the post-op exam;  then I'll make a determination if I'm fit to drive.

      If I'm not, I'll stay in Denver until I am.

      Is depth perception a concern for you with the monodical in your right eye and perhaps a Toric IOL in your left eye?

      Many thanks!

      Ed

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      Have you tried monovision with contact lenses?   I think I have read most people tolerate the mini mono vision well but for full monovision it is better if you try it out with contact lenses to know if your brain adjusts to that.

      If you can - stay overnight in Denver after the surgery and go for post op next morning.

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      Just keep in mind that mono vision with a contact lens (I think) gives a false result. It might accurately predict how things might look with regards to depth perception, but clarity is not going to be accurate and the end result could be a lot better with an iol.

      In other words, the cataract makes things worse at all distances.  My near vision with an IOL set for distance at 1/2 diopter was a lot better than a contact set at 2 diopters (with my cataract).

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      I've heard that full monovision can be problematic for depth perception.

      Hence mini-monovision seems better for sport.

      I haven't used contacts for years, but right now there is neuroadaption for the left (good) eye and the right (really bad) eye.  My left eye takes over for skiing and cycling;  I hope that will be the case after surgery as well.

      I'm scheduled to stay overnight in Denver after the surgeries and I'll stay there until it's safe to drive again.

      Rides have been arranged to the post-op appointments on the 8th and 14th.

      Thanks again Sue. An!

       

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      By contacts, I meant some doctors might suggest using a temporary "test contact lens" for about a week before surgery to get an idea of how things might be after surgery with regards to a certain amount of mono vision.  But, as I wrote, from my experience the cataract makes things worse, so I don't think a test lens can be that reliable as far as clarity of vision after surgery.  But, it might give you some idea of how mono vision would look.  I agree that for sport, mini mono is probably a lot better than full.  I went only 1/2 diopter difference.  I forgot to mention with regards to my mp3 player, it's only around 1 square inch length and width and cost around $15 years ago.

       

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      Thanks, Michael!

      I have an old I-pod that's probably not worth $1.00.  But it sounds ok if one is quite mellow;  that should be the state I'll be in.

      I'm especially grateful for your mentioning the .5 diopter difference.  If both eyes are on target, then, per the Abbot de-focus chart the -.5 left & +.5 right might work out well.

      I'll confirm this as well with the surgical coordinator tomorrow.  The surgeon did not clarify exactly what he was going to do with respect to the + & -  of diopters during my appointment.

      Have a great evening, Michael!

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    Besides monitoring your pulse do they also monitor your blood pressure during the surgery?

    My blood pressure goes way up only at the doctor's office, and I'd expect it to go super way up during surgery with all the anxiety!

    In comparison at home rested its well below normal.

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      My BP is usually about 100/65 and pulse about 60.

      I'm anxious now and I imagine that I'll be really anxious during surgery.  Perhaps they can sedate me and prop open the eye receiving the new lens.

      I'll write to the surgical coordinator tomorrow and ask her about this.

      More invaluable information.

      Thank you so much, Night-Hawk!

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      The surgeon needs to prop open your eye being operated on or there would be no way for him to do this surgery.  It is much like device dentist uses to prop open your mouth for longer procedures.  Don't worry you won't feel him out that device in as your eyes are numbed by that point.

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      You can watch the procedure on you YouTube.  Not sure that is helpful or makes one more anxious.  But it really is quick.  I was amazed how little time it took.  
    • Posted

      Actually they did not have that device at the surgicenter where my eyes were done and they just taped them open. I found that to be a lot more comfortable than that device but maybe that's because my eyes were not as numb at the time that device was used a while back for another procedure.

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      Thanks Sue An:

      I've watched a few procedures.

      They made me more anxious, but at least I know what to expect.

      Have a great day!

      All the best,

      Ed

    • Posted

      You have been so kind, Sue An!

      I really appreciate it!

      Cheers,

      Ed

    • Posted

      That's interesting.  Mine must have

      been very numb - didn't feel anthing

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