THD - Is my experience normal?
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[color=#333333]For approx. 10 years I've been dealing with internal and external haemorrhoids (rhoids) and the occasional prolapse - too embarrassed to seek medical attention I've just tried my hardest, despite the discomfort, to carry on regardless. After a recent defining moment in the bathroom I decided enough was enough and booked a visit to see my GP, which to my surprise was not as embarrassing as I thought it would be. Following a digital examination the GP confirmed that the usual solutions would not suffice and a referral to a Consultant was needed - fortunately I have private medical insurance and my appointment came through quickly.
At my first appointment the Consultant completed a digital examination for himself and deduced that my rhoids were “quite large”. At this stage he suggested a Sigmoidoscopy (lower bowel camera) and ligation (banding) to see if that would help - whilst I was told the procedure is uncomfortable and not painful I opted for sedation on the basis that why would anyone choose to be in any discomfort when they really don’t need to be!?![/color]
[color=#333333]Having researched the procedure online I returned to the hospital some 3 weeks later. I have to say the enema was a surprise in more ways than one – I now understand it’s a necessary requirement, but given the reason it’s being administered is it unreasonable to assume they would be a little more gentle? #Wowzers! Anyway, I waited around all morning and I was eventually taken to the Operating Room (OR). At this point I have to say Sedation is wonderful - I remember nothing between the fluid being injected in the cannula and subsequently being in the recovery room. Given I had been tinkered with all I can remember at this point is feeling as though I needed to go to the toilet. I was subsequently transferred back to my room where I remained for a couple of hours in a little discomfort, but I recall being in pain – the Consultant came to say he would see me at my follow-up appointment and I was eventually released by a nurse that said “it looks like you’re coming back to see us” and I spotted THD on her paperwork.[/color]
[color=#333333]It was about 2-3 weeks when I had a follow-up with my Consultant, which gave me lots of time to read up on what THD was etc. – compared to the rhoidectomy of yesteryear it sounded like an absolute gem of a procedure. The Consultant asked how I had got on with the ligation and I explained there had been no real change however, he said he didn’t think it would work given the size of the rhoids – so we discussed returning for a THD in 2 weeks’ time. So, there is the background…[/color]
[u][color=#333333]Day One[/color][/u]
[color=#333333]I returned to the hospital for my THD last Friday and, given the procedural information I had read on line, I was feeling quite good about it. Having had another fairly uncomfortable enema (by the hands of the person that delivered the previous one! #Ouch) I was told that I was 2nd on the list and would be seen quite quickly – it was roughly mid-morning when I walked to the OR. At this point I was given the cannula etc. before the GA was administered. Quick question: Is it just me that likes that buzzy lightheaded feeling you get with a GA? I’ve had a few in my time and I really enjoy it![/color]
[color=#333333]The next thing I remember is waking up in the Recovery Room with an overwhelming feeling that I needed a bowel movement (BM) – I’m talking that real desperate need somebody has when they have a stomach upset. I recall one nurse saying it’s probably the packing and the other said the consultant did not use any – I was then told somebody was on their way to transfer me to my room but I could have a bed pan if I needed it. I was quickly returned to my room and I asked if I was able to go to the toilet – I was told I could, but needless to say I actually couldn’t do either of the things one usually does when they visit the lavatory![/color]
[color=#333333]After a good hour or so I asked if any pain relief was available as I was really quite uncomfortable. I was subsequently given codeine, which did help – mainly because I fell asleep if I’m honest! I was woken by a nurse wanting to take my obs – I said I needed the loo first and the nurse agreed to return within several minutes. I managed to urinate however, upon returning to the room the nurse had quite a fright as found me lying on the bed looking as white as the pillow case, feeling dizzy and sweating – I was given Oxygen for a while. I was given more codeine later on and, after more sleep, I eventually saw the Consultant who said that he would see me again in a couple of weeks, but with regard to that day I could stay overnight or go home. Being tired as I was unable to get any decent sleep, I opted to go home at around 18:30. Upon check out I was prescribed Fybogel (to be taken Twice Daily) and Paracetamol (as and when) – due to other ailments I have access to Cocodamol 30/500 and Tramadol hence I was good to go. The journey home was not too bad however, the left side of my rectum was particularly sore hence I sat with all my weight on the right bottom cheek for the duration. When at home I pretty much spent the evening sleeping, thinking about the toilet or trying to go to the toilet! [/color]
[u][color=#333333]Day Two[/color][/u]
[color=#333333]I woke up several times in the night with the feeling that I needed to go to the toilet, so I eventually got up to watch TV at around 04:30. Feeling the need to go to toilet lasted all day – other than briefly after passing wind or a short while longer after taking a Tramadol. I eventually went for a very small BM however, it was quite painful to be honest and I wondered if my body was telling me I needed to but my head was telling me not to – I was literally having spasms, such a weird feeling that happened several times throughout the day. The good news was that whilst I still felt rough, I was more mobile and thought THD may just be the best thing since sliced bread. [/color]
[u][color=#333333]Day Three[/color][/u]
[color=#333333]Pretty much mirrors Day two having woken up at 04:00. I went downstairs and eventually managed to go to the toilet for a small BM however, it was soooo painful I felt exhausted afterward. I returned to bed mid-morning for a couple of hours and then remained in the confines of my house for the rest of the day. [/color]
[u][color=#333333]Day Four[/color][/u]
[color=#333333]Woke up at a reasonable time and managed to potter around the house all day. Took a 40 minute drive to take my child to school and back and noticed that the desperate urge to go to the toilet has been replaced with a fullness/weight feeling and there is now an aching on the left side of my rectum. I managed to do the smallest of BM’s, which, in the main, was probably my body dispelling some of the Fybogel! In cleaning myself I noticed a small lump on my rectum, which I can only liken to an external rhoid – brilliant, just brilliant! By the afternoon I actually felt like I was in pain until I read about and decided to take a sitz bath – temporarily relieving the pain, until I took more Tramadol![/color]
[u][color=#333333]Day Five[/color][/u]
[color=#333333]Today. I’m feeling somewhat down about my post THD experience. It doesn’t seem to be consistent with the majority of literature that says you’ll be running marathons within 48 hours (slight exaggeration, but you know what I mean)! I’ve got what I think is an external rhoid, the left side of my rectum is uncomfortable, and when I sit down or stand up I can feel pressure - like you do when the rhoids are playing up…not to mention that after I drove my child to school today I felt like I’d received a swift kick up the arse when I got back to the house. I had a BM this afternoon and it was painful…AGAIN…I ended up elevating my feet on a footstool to making the passing of the BM more comfortable![/color]
[color=#333333]Having got all that of my chest, I’m hoping somebody can offer an opinion on the following…[/color]
[color=#333333]Could the lump on my rectum be linked to the procedure and shrink over time? I’m wondering if I’ve not noticed before as I previously had a prolapse?[/color]
[color=#333333]Could the lump be a new rhoid or hematoma given the constant feeling of requiring the loo and then my associated attempts to go? [/color]
[color=#333333]Given I’m now at Day 5, should I really have an aching feeling where I think the procedure was completed?[/color]
[color=#333333]Given I’m still uncomfortable, would you contact the GP or carry on taking the tramadol for now? [/color]
[color=#333333]I’m off work at the moment, but I will need a sick note in 2 days – is it likely that I’ll be ready to go back at this point?
Many thanks for reading and, where you can, replying with your comment(s).[/color]
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shirley61689 Rhoidrage
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Rhoidrage shirley61689
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I'm just grateful I have arthritis (only time I'll say that), which gave me access to Tramadol & Cocodamol 30/500 - God knows how I would have coped without them.
My advice to anyone having the THD is to persuade the hospital to give you decent painkillers (something other than Paracetamol) in case you need them like I did.
davecon Rhoidrage
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If you had this done privately then phone the Hospital that did it and tell them your concerns for the first job
As far as I can see on this site and elsewhere that Halo or THD is rubbish and may have even missed some of the piles (My consultant almost said as much and I had mine cut out) So maybe it is one you have pushed out straining?
Ive also not seen any posts about anybody actually getting over the procedure in 5 Days - The piles will still be there at that stage anyway especially if big ones as can take weeks to drop off
The fibrogel is not really a laxative(A fibre suppliment thing - Bran is better than that and you need to drink lots of water with both or will bung you up and work in reverse !) You would be better getting some Lactulose or Macrogel (Boots and some other Chemists etc sell it) That will also soften your stools and make things easier until you can get BMs back to normal
Tramodol and Codeine BOTH give you constipation and at best will slow down your movements - If you can manage with just Paracetomol for the discomfort then that will help no end (But if not the laxative is a must)
Tramadol also have some nasty withdrawel symptons even after short term use so best to not take them at all if possible (Now a controlled drug and really a narcotic - They will make you feel good though lol)
First thing I would do is get on to the Hossy and consultant though
Sorry if that all sounds like bad news and that I dont actually have any direct experince with your halo procedure so cant really comment on the results all that much but there are lots on here that have
Dave
davecon
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Rhoidrage davecon
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nb. If I'm honest I was taking the Tramadol for the rhoid pain - my arthritis isn't too bad this week - every cloud!
Rhoidrage davecon
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nb. If I'm honest I was taking the Tramadol for the rhoid pain - my arthritis isn't too bad this week - every cloud!
davecon Rhoidrage
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Yep that Lactulose will work a lot better as it cleans you out completely if you eat well with it (It says 1 or twice a day so you will have to see which is best - depends on your diet really) You want the stuff to virtually drop out of your bum without having to push! Take it for at least another week then the pile part should be cleared up by then hopefully
Wash your bum with warm water - soap and pure baby wipes and dont wipe with paper
I got one of those beday things you put in the toilet from Amazon and filled it with warm water and Radox Muscle Soak (Miracle stuff)
I even dumped straight into it for 1st 2 Days!
Then followed by a Radox Bath with the above Muscle one (Red or Blue) (£1 from Asda lol) - Actually Works wonders on all pains and I bet it would also help your artritus - Works better than an ice bath when I overcook it on my bike!
I had a few smaller ones banded with my op and after about 7 Days began to feel bloated even though I was farting like a trooper - You may start to see a yellow mucus discharge after a week and maybe some blood as well so you may want to use a liner
Use the baby wipes and check when you fart lol
Dave
shirley61689 davecon
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davecon shirley61689
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Please try not to worry hun (Easier said than done) 9 times out of 10 it will just be simple anemia - It really is only a precaution thing
Even though you are no spring chicken (If you dont mind me saying) it does not need much blood loss and sometimes none in all women to cause that
The plus side is it will settle the thing one way or another and you will feel great when you are clear
I do hope they get to see you very soon - You must be at your wits end!
You dont have any major symptons so whatever it may be - It will be fixable
I will be thinking about you
Dave
shirley61689 davecon
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davecon shirley61689
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You should have said she wants to look it up in the dictionary and see that it means exactly that - Then again by the sound of it she probably can't read lol
Hope everything goes well for you but the waiting is horrendous - I'm sure they do it deliberately
When you do get to see the consultant or have any tests - make sure you ask them for the results there and then because they will try to fob you off with the "We have to send them to your GP" nonsense - making the waiting even more stressful
Little_Miss_RC Rhoidrage
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Rhoidrage Little_Miss_RC
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I looked on the THD website about the procedure & convinced myself it would be a minor inconvenience & normal service would resume with a couple of days.
Took a laxative last night & whilst it was not a pain-free BM this morning, I do feel a bit better this PM.
I don't think I'll be ready for work on Friday, but I hope I'm not off as long as you were - that must have been horrendous for you!
For the benefit of anybody researching THD & happening on this thread... If I have to do it again in the future I will, only this time I'd take in to consideration the comments above & prepare accordingly - do not just take for granted your experience will be text book brilliant!
Glad it worked for you
Jk1952 Rhoidrage
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Ps to Dave. How supportive and kind you are.
vicky75140 Rhoidrage
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hi i know this is a old post but im just wondering how you got on with the thd procedure ? how do you find the benefits of it now im in the exact same boat as you was im on day 7 post op and still feeling pretty sore and still having bleeding. is this normal after 7 days please tell me there is some light at the end of the tunnel for me. the erge to need a bowel movement all the time and not being able to is killing me !