The Urolift procedure; patient views and questions

He is the man to ask then.  Go well.

 

Hey there.  Yes the doctor is the one to ask..  I had mine done about 3 month's ago and had a catheter for 2 days.  But I need to ask why he did a dilation of the urethra.  I do have a stricture just before the prostate but he did not tell me when I woke up.  Your going to have a small amout of bleeding but the first day I had heavy blood clogs coming out of the tip around the catheter.   I will see him in 2 weeks   Take care  Ken 

Your urethra has no normal lubrication in it. The catheter moves in and out slightly as you move around. It abrades the inside of your urethra as a result, causing the pain and blood. The solution to this is to put a small amount of Vaseline or other petroleum jelly on the catheter where it enters your penis. Once or twice a day you should therefore clean this area with a q-tip or cotton swab with a 50 percent solution of hydrogen peroxide and water. That will solve the problem of the abrasions, and the blood you see at the tip of your penis. The blood is especially bad because it dries and forms scabs and can further abrade the inside of your urethra aggravating the problem. I hope this helps.

Neal

Hi Neal   That was the first time I had a catheter.  Yes I read that about no lube in the urethra.  When I woke up and was getting dressed I had to go to the bathroom But had a bladder spasm and when I sit down a large clog came out all over floor.  I yelled for my son and told him what happen and to ask the doctor. He said it was normal.  After reading about the urolift there is a little blood after the implants. But this was alot. I think it was the dialation of the stricture. Seen that done and it not a pretty site they tear the stricture apart with rods I'm glad I was out .  Take care  Ken  

Hi Ken,

You and I have not interchanged directly before,  so I hope you will not mind,  let alone be offended if I initiate contact by gently reminding you,   that there are some extremely anxious and apprehensive people,  both men and women,  who peruse this Forum and read our Posts.

In as much as I appreciate that both venting your experiences and clamouring at people to avoid any form of surgical intervention to the prostate gland,  is probably a necessary form of psychotherapy for you personally;  nevertheless I urge you to have renewed consideration for such sensitive souls who may be out there and for whom your graphic observations might do no more,  than cause alarm and confusion.  

With Kind Regards,

Dudley

I think graphic details are a service to people to know what can and may happen. It seems the doctors and makers of the various prostate machines from lasers to turp to urolift to stents all make it sound like a walk in the park. If anything different than the optimal result occurs they do there best to assure you you are the anomaly instead of one of thousands or tens of thousands that had a procedure that didn't go according to the brochures. I think these forums are a place where actual details get told. The medical establishment generally just gives people the PR version.

It is no problem.  I think its best to hear from people that have gone thru things then get a surprise when it happens,  Take care  Ken

I agree completely with you, Bob. People too sensitive to read what really goes on will be very upset when they actually have a procedure, and justifiably angry at those who sugar coat the process. The whole purpose of a forum like this is to learn about these procedures.

Neal

First of all I tell it like it is or should be. I don't like surprises. I like to know what is going to happen and what could happen.  I go to my urologist on the 11th.  I found out some stuff in my summery that he did not tell me about.  Reading up on the urolift before I had it done you will have some bleeding.  Right before  I went home and that whole day I have alot of clogs.  He said it was normal.  After reading the summery I found out he did a dialation of the urethra I have a stricture.  I have watch the videos of them doing it with the rod. It's not a pretty site.  When I woke up he just said that all went well.  I feel if he did to it he should have told me.  Did he have a problem getting it in or what..  I don't care that he did it I trust him but I like to know if anything is being done to my body.  We as men need all the information we can to make the right decision for our care.  Take care all and good health...Ken   

Dudley > Bob and Nealpros,

This is getting interesting.  Are you seriously suggesting that any BPH  &/or PCa Patient is left thinking,  that what they are about to go through is a  ' walk in the Park ? ' 

And,   were your expectations ' sugar-coated ? '

If not,  then where are you coming from ?  And why do you personally have a particular axe to grind over these issues,  whether  (&  I would have thought rarely ) they are real or perceived ?

Regards

Dudley

Dudley. I believe that with any procedure that you are having you should be told what is going to happy and you should also look it up on the internet and read or look at a video of the procedure.  Most doctor don't tell you everything. They say no problem you will be fine.  I have a stricture in the urethra that I will have to have it repaired 1 day.  I have read anf looded up on alot of them. I have already pick the one I will have they will never cut any of my urethra away.  The doctors do not tell you anything about penile shortening.  They just say all will be fine.  Life is short and we have to enjoy all we can and get all the information we can  Ken 

Yes, absolutely sugar coated. The Greenlight laser brochure actually has a "patient" who plays a full round of golf a few days after the procedure. And surgeons are all confidence and optimism. If you bring up any potential downsides they assure you they are "extremely rare". I've had two GL lasers,a classic turp, and two life threatenign hematurias requiring a total of 14 pints of blood transfusions in three years. But every one I know has had surgical and hospital horror stories personally or in their immediate families. You have either been very lucky or blind to the facts.

Bob that is true.  They never tell all of it. Any procedures with the prostate I can't see a man playing 18 holes he must have been peeing blood into his catheter..  I like being told the true.  I'm the one that well have to deal with it not the doctor...Have a great day  Ken 

Hi Ken & Bob,

My path has not exactly been strewn with rose petals but,  it has not had a thicket of brambles across it either.  The combined subject of expectations and subsequent consent,   is difficult and complex.  And I can see both sides of the equation.   I assume that although generally speaking you mistrust representations made to Patients,  you nonetheless respect the altruistic  aspirations of both the Practitioner and the Institution ?

Nonetheless however,  It is obvious to me that I will have to stop reading your posts because I personally find them to be negative,  pathetic,  unmanly and rather irritatin self-indulgent whinges,  which lack in equal measure any appreciation,  respect,  gratitude or realism.

 

Dudley  I respect your way of thinking.  I have a sister that feel the same she does not like to know what is going to happen. She does not know what there saying to her. Just do it and get it over with.   I trust all my doctors but I like to know what is going on.  I don't like surprises..  Take care and good health  Ken 

Dudley,

Sure I trust my doctor or I wouldn't have continued to go to him. But hospitals are cesspools of incompetence. The good practitioners in hospitals are outweighed by the bad. Medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the US. 400,000 a year killed by preventable medical errors. That's like seeing a football match in a stadium of 50,000 and suffering 40 deaths at each match. You seem to be a medical fan-boy. When (not if) the reality comes to you, hopefully you will be more "manly" than I am. But tht's a pretty rediculous concept of mannliness anyway.

The reason people come to a blog like this is to learn, or to help others by sharing our real experiences. If we wanted sugar coated pap, we would look the procedure up on Wikipedia, or ask an average urologist who either really has never heard or Urolift, or PAE, like mine in Florida, or talk to a knowledgeable doctor, who might be trying to sell us a procedure to increase the bottom line. What we want here is the unvarnished truth from those who have the experience to provide it.

Hey Neal.   I had mine done in Orlando.     He's with the Florida Hospital     I trust my urologist he tells you everything.  He is not a cut happy doctor.  He told me about the Urolift in September but we tryed the pills first.  Had mine done April 27, 2015  It worked great for me....Take care  Ken

I guess you Guys must have bought the sugar-coated pap in the first place or you wouldn't feel so outraged.  

Nobody ever tried to sell me any and I wouldn't have bought it anyway,  so at least I've got that going for me.  

Maybe Medical Practitioners look at each Patient with a Jack Nicholson line running through their heads :  ' Can they handle the Truth?'

Thanks for the info

Neal