Tmj NOT etd??

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Hi all thank you so much for your reassuring replies to my very desperate post the other week, I'm so grateful for your support as it has been a very hard time for me.

I bit the bullet today and went to see a private ENT at my local hospital. I was super shocked when he looked in my ears with a microscope and told me they looked totally normal! He even got me to do a valsalva and swallow under the microscope to check if I could pop my ears and he said that I could! He told me that I don't have any eustachian tube problems whatsoever and that my feeling of pressure and ear pain is actually caused by tmj after checking my clicky jaw. He said that I am likely just hypersensitive in my ears after I hurt them flying with a cold. I'm so happy but confused, I don't really know what to think. What do you all think about this diagnosis and has anyone else with supposed ETD found out that it was TMJ? 

I think that hearing this from the ent is going to help me mentally more than anything else as the tmj problems are still going to persist, but I am now able to live at peace knowing that I don't have to worry about flying/diving/ear problems anymore (at least until the occasion arises) smile

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    Getting any kind of answer is positive.  I know for me, i was tested for everything, allergies, tmj, neck problems, even psychiatric problems. Not all ear problems are ETD, there are many other things it can be.  I hope this is your answer!  Good luck! 
  • Posted

    that sounds like great news.  Now all you need to do if fix the TMJ to confirm diagnosis.  Sometimes something as simple and benign as a mouth guard when you sleep can alleviate the TMJ.   Good luck!
  • Posted

    I have both. I use a mouth night  splint and acuounture for tmj/tmjd. But both have been  diagnosed, its great news your ears are fine though. That is good.
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    Never heard of TMJ causing ETD.  I suffered TMJ when my dentist was a bit heavy handed with a crown on the lower jaw.  It didn't cause ETD, but was painful for two weeks with me being unable to fully open my mouth properly.  I've suffered ETD since the 80's.  Maybe that's a way of your ENT consultant not having to bother with you....easy let out blaming TMJ.....if that's the case your ear/ears should have got better by now.  In my personal experience ETD is 9 out of 10 cases due to allergies and rhinitis.  It's such a hard thing to get rid of and when you do it's temporary.  I was so desperate for some relief from my blocked left ear I requested a 20 day reducing course of Prednisolone.  They started to work after taking them for 5 days.  Mucus dried up, ears clear, smell and taste returned and no sinus headaches.  I've had approx. 6 weeks relief, however, I've lost my sense of smell and taste again, blowing mucus and sneezing, but at the moment ears still clear.  I can cope with everything else if my ears stay clear.  I've taken advice from someone on the forum to take Oil of Primrose and Turmeric, not sure if they are helping, but will continue with them.  Pollen high so that's why everything has returned.  I'd love to once again go abroad for a nice sunshine holiday, but concerned flying will make my ears block up again, so just not worth it and will have to be content with holidaying in England.

    Once again, I'd be very surprised if TMJ is your problem.  There are too many of use suffering the same problem of ETD without any TMJ or dental problems.

    Anne

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    It may or may not be TMJ. No one really knows. You would need an imaging test to confirm the diagnosis.

    Symptoms of temporomandibular disorders include headaches, tenderness of the chewing muscles, and clicking or locking of the joints. Sometimes the pain seems to occur near the joint rather than in it. Temporomandibular disorders may be the reason for recurring headaches that do not respond to usual medical treatment. Other symptoms include pain or stiffness in the neck radiating to the arms, dizziness, earaches or stuffiness in the ears, and disrupted sleep.

    People with temporomandibular disorders often have difficulty opening their mouth wide. For example, most people without temporomandibular disorders can place the tips of their index, middle, and ring fingers held vertically in the space between the upper and lower front teeth without forcing. For people with temporomandibular disorders (with the exception of hypermobility), this space usually is markedly smaller.

    Causes of TMJ Disorder

    Misaligned teeth, missing teeth and poor dental work including orthodontics.

    Incorrect swallowing habits from childhood which push the jaw back.

     Myofunctional habits such as bruxing (grinding of teeth) and mouth breathing.

    Tension resulting in clenching and grinding.

    Incorrect jaw growth causing mismatch of the upper and lower jaws.

    Trauma such as a fall or car accident (very common in whiplash injuries).

    Degenerative diseases such as osteoarthritis.

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    I have been bounced back and forth between a maillary surgeon and an ent myself. Seemsi have both. The ent feels the tmd is causing the ear issues. My gp wants me to see a nuerologist to see what is going on as i have had tmj for decades and nothing like what I have been expericing, so end of july im hopeing to have a resolution unless it all spontaneously heals which i would be very happy with, i even went for acuouncture as a hopeful remedy but it didnt pan out. The acupuncturist is a md as well and also wants me to see a nuero.

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