Unacceptable side effects of Levothyroxine
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I was described Levothryoxine 2 years ago and my GP has increased it until I am now taking 125mcg.I have never had so many various symptoms in my life - severe weight gain including puffy face and eyes, very itchy dry skin, brittle nails, thinning hair but the major items are the pains in my joints and muscles - especially in my knees and my hands. The doctor said I have carpal tunnel syndrome and also now have high cholesterol,,,,,,, When reading other peoples' experiences it would appear that many people have all of these symptoms so why is it that GP's do not take this illness more seriously. I recently asked if I could have a full blood showing all readings and also if I could be prescribed Armour and was told no. It also scared me to find that several pharmacists in major chemists haad never even heard of Armour. Has anyone felt like they have had enough and just stopped taking Levothyroxine and what was the result?
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MtViewCatherine ryan48118
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FYI- the thyroid meds will initially spike thyroid levels, so you don't want to test before three months, as they take that long to settle out. The difficulty is that the doctors don't want to increase the dose without testing, even when your body is telling you it's low. Then the early testing shows higher values than they realy are, so the doctors don't want to increase it. With this methiod, you'll spend years getting the dose right. This translates to years of lost quality of life. So you need a doctor who will do a clinical exam. If the body temeperature is significantly below the normal 98.6 degrees F, and the fingers are colder than the palms of the hand, cold extremities, etc, those indicate too low. Of course hair falling out can indicate too low as well, but doctors sometimes think the hair falling out can be caused by it being too high.
For me, the levothyroxin exaccerbated all the symptoms and added more until I couldn't tell what was what. I've been off it now for 6 mopnths and after cleansing over the holidays, I'm finally starting to feel like myself again. You can see, I take this very seriously, as it appears it takes a long time to get this horrible levothyroxin out of the system, and I was down for the whole year and a half while I was taking it.
Also recognize that thyroid disese is an autoimmune disease and keep this in mind when making choices so that her immune system doesn't get more aggrivated than it already is.
Here's the recipe that worked for me:
1) Switch to Natural Dessicated Thyroid. I use a compounded to avoid any unnecessary additives like wheat, corn, dairy and dyes. All of these additive aggrivate an already irritated immune system. If your doctor hesitates or doesn't want to switch, get another doctor. Every day that the thyroid meds aren't working is another day the body is wearing down unnecessarily fast.
2) Clean up your diet. Go completely gluten-free, as well as organic. Best to only prepare your own food because wheat is in everything. The laws in the US that allow things to be labeled gluten-free, still allow trace amounts, which is enough to trigger autoimmune disease. In this case even a little gluten is not OK. Gluten triggers an autoimmune response that attacks the stomach and intestines as well as the thyroid in particular, but to a lesser extent, other tissues. Notice all thyroid disease is caused by either Hahimoto's or Grave's disease, both autoimmune.
3) Get her to a good acupuncturist. Preferably someone trained in the Orient. They can treat the thyroid and the whole body so it doesn't continue the downward spiral, while you're getting the meds and diet right.
4) Stomach and intestime issues often accompany thryoid disease. Fresh, organic juice each day is a source of nutrition that is easily digested and absorbed.
5) Supplement boron. This is a naturally occuring trace mineral, for which there currently is no recommended intake (in the US) This is typical, as historicaly, cases of low trace minerals have to be extensively studied and widespread illness due to large population lack before there is a recommendation made for minerals. Boron supplementation can reduce thyroid cysts. You can buy the chelated or make a dilution yourself with borax. If you aren't comfortable making and drinking your own dilution (you don't want to take too much!), make it easy on yourself and use the chelated capsules.
6) Cleanse. When the thyroid is low, all the body functions slow down, including liver elimination and waste elimination in general. So build-up of toxins happens very quickly and will exaccerbate health issues, food sensitivities, etc. I use a liver/glabladder cleanse - cheap, easy, fast but need to be strong enough to tolerate. I also use a colon cleanse with psyllium- there are a million of them out there for various proces, or you can go really cheap and buy your own ingredients.
Hope that helps. I guess it sounds like a lot, but if thyroid disease has gotten too far, you may need these solutions, or may need them at a later date. Hopefully not. They are healthy things to do anyway.
Good luck and I hope she feels better soon!
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doris90991 Guest
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MtViewCatherine doris90991
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Good luck!
cameronita doris90991
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As I stated I was on Levothyroxine for 7 months it was a nightmare for me. I went off of it and am very happy I did. I would love to see other people off of this that experience the same symptoms as me. I am now on Armour and doing real good on it. I have less water retention and have lost weight. I would never go back on levo.....I alos am on hormone replacement therapy at the same time. In a woman when they lose estrogen and progesterone it is detrimental to the thyroid. I am getting back to normal with all of this. My levels are returning to normal. I am having less constipation and finally getting relief and I needed hormone replacement therapy also. So I just happen to have been blessed with a doctor that would give me hormone replacement therapy along with the armour. Low levels of estrogen and progesterone....and DHEAS and testosterone can really cause so many symptoms. I am doing a compound cream for hormine replacement and the armour.....I can say it is working for me....I have good energy and less pain also.....I am thrilled.....I had a metobilic panel done and my doctor is giving me natural meds to get everything up to the level they need to be at. So that naturally means less symptoms. Plus I am on a great regime of vitamins and minerals....Good luck to you and everyone...I am praying for all of you cause I know the pain of this disease......I heard of it but did not know how bad it could be until I got it......I am hoping my diabetes will be easier to manage also when everything is normal including my hormone replacement levels. I am on the right track after a year......yippee!!!!!!
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MtViewCatherine dww25
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Be sure you're getting some sort of natural thyroid medication. You can get a Natural Dessicated Thyroid by prescription that's very concentrated, or you can order it in a natural form online. But do something because it's very harmful to your body if you don't have enough thyroxin.
It sounds like you may not have server thyroid disease, in which case, you may be able to do some holistic treatments to try and recover... You can try some other natural treatments- acupuncture, herbs, supplement boron, cleansing, and abosultely go completely gluten-free- and see if your thyroid starts to recover some. The gluten causes an autoimmune response and the body attacks the thyroid... Hashimoto's and Grave's are the causes of thyroid disease and both are autoimmune. So the gluten elimination is really key. If you want to go the natural route, you have to be extremely diligent and disciplined, as there's wheat in everything. No processed foods or eating out for a while. Most people can't stick with the discipline, so they don;t even have a chance. Hence the low recovery rate for thyroid disease.
If this regimine doesn't really make a substantial difference in three months, you really should make sure you have some sort of natural thyroxin supplement. I use a prescription NDT so as to avoid any addded allergens that are typically found in meds.
Hope that helps. At least you have some choices and maybe I've saved you some trouble and long hours of research.
Catherine
sseaangell MtViewCatherine
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I don't suggest this was the best thing to do...but if I hadn't , I would not have caught your posts.
In two weeks, I lost weight, my ankles weren't swollen, I got some decent sleep, and so on...
Then i took my levo today and ugh...i felt aweful. Depleted of all energy. My stomach distended again. I became swollen.
I searched online for answers and found yours and other educational eye-opening posts.
I am calling my doctor tomorrow.
I have lost most of my hair, am 100 pounds overweight, and I am not living like this anymore.
My only fear is sounding like a hypochondriac and not being taken seriously.
Can u call my doctor for me? Ha ha ha
Thanks for the great posts, everyone.
Edgar61 Guest
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It is common for people taking Levothyroxine to suffer symptoms such as these; they are of course symptoms of hypothyroidism. That is because T4 only treatment doesnt always resolve the symptoms of hypothyroidism. You need to add T3 as its likely your body is unable to convert you Levo (T4 only) to T3 and hence your cells are deficient of thyroid hormone.
T4 is a weak hormone at the best of times but must be converted to T3 for the cells to benefit. NDT such as Armour or ERFA are available on NHS prescription if you have a GP who will listen to you. It is clear T4 only Levothyroxine isnt working for you and you are entitled to have a treatment which is better. There is a synthetic T3 only tablet which could be an acceptible alternative to your GP and will help you enormously.
However, T3 and T4 are synthetic drugs and will not include Calcitonin, a hormone contained in your natural thyroid hormone. this is essential to bone health. You can have this prescribed seperately but it is easier to have it in NDT together with all other thyroid hormones.
Educate yourself and have the information to enable you to argue your corner.
T4 conversion problems are common and are not generally diagnosed by many Doctors because they rely on the TSH thyroid function test; which doesnt even measure a thyroid hormone. When conversion problems occur the TSH isnt affected for a long long time. The reason being is that TSH is a pituitary hormone and the pituitary is protected against conversion problems. all cells convert in one way the pituitary does it in several ways, so if one way doesnt work it just converts using a different method! the body cells cant do that and so they can be hypothyroid when the pituitary and hypothalamus dont identify this.
High cholesterol isnt the terrible thing some orthodox medics would have you believe, but rising cholesterol is a sign your liver isnt functioning so well; this is due to its lack of T3 thyroid hormone. Given T3 your symptoms will resolve including the cholesterol issue. I know I had all those problems. You need to be strong, be educated and knowledgeable and if all else fails change your Doctor if they refuse to discuss your problem rationally.
Best of luck. I hope you get things sorted; though you may well have done already....though experience tells me its unlikely.
MtViewCatherine Edgar61
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The post was recent. Not sure why it's showing up as last year when it was posted yesterday.
You're right on with everything! I've had severe liver and gallbladder problems, various bouts with high cholesterol, that I know are due completely to the hypothyroidism. The cholesterol in particular is a huge indicator of hypothyroidism for me, as it's normally very low. If I see a spikem it tells me that things are really off! This is helpful because by the time the cholesterol is crazy high, the thyroid is so low I can't think straight. So it's like, oh right, it's low again. Thanks for the reassurance on that. The high cholesterol is sort of a big deal, but more because it's an indicator and shows that the body also isn't making the proper hormones it needs... As when the thyroid isn't working propery, my whole hormone system tanks. Of course women are much more sensitive to this than men, because it throws off our whole system.
Of course the NDT is a must. I've become my own expert at natural therapies and have treated all the additional problems with herbs, accupuncture, cleanses (especially liver cleanses!!!) and food elimination. Better alternatives to western medicine's harmful, toxic drugs or surgery used to treat many of the debilitating problems arising from low thyroid.
Everyone I know who has tried the synthetic has reacted badly to it. Not only do the low thyroid symptoms continue, but it seems to trigger the immunee system to fibromialgia type symptoms- geberally all over pain. I'm sure this medication must work for some people. I just have never met one. I think I saw a post once here where the woman siad it was working for her, but she didn't seem to know the difference between the meds, so I wasn't sure if she even know what she was taking.
It sounds like from your post, that the thyroid meds don't cause heart problems. Of course the doctors are totally freaked out about prescrivbing the meds because tehre is a huge belief that the meds cause heart problems if too high. My sense is that the low thyroid is far more harmful to the heart than overmedication and that the heart problems may well be completely due to low thyroid, rather than, as they think, caused by the meds... It may be that the cpmlete manifestation of the heart problems take years and don't show up until after the patient has gotten thyroid meds, but by then the damage is alreasy done... ticking time bomb, eventually gets linked to the meds coincidentally. What do you think?
I'm asking because I have had several eastern doctors tell me that I have heart problems, though nothing shows up with the eeg, ekg, electrocariogram thing, whatever they call it now.
I read that as much as 80% of the T4 to T3 conversion happens in the GI tract and the liver, but you talked more about the pituitary and hypothalamus.
I've felt that the stomach problems I've had may have contributed to the downward spiral, and improved GI health seems to improve everything.
It's all related. From what you say, I have had the conversion problem, because my physical blood tests have always shown normal TSH (well, up until my thyroid seemed to completely stop working and then it was slightly elevated) ... although, my body temperature has been more than 2 degrees (F) low since my teens. So it was low my whole life. It wasn't until the thyroid felt like it completely shut down that I realized I needed the meds. Even then, it took over two years to get them because of course the cholesterol was high, the hormones were crashed, and I had severe stomach problems, so they kept sending me to the gyno. I had to advocate (the meds) for myself and find alternative treatments to get me through until I got the meds, and then to help the body recover from the degredation. The unfortunate thing is the long lasting effects of the degredation of the body caused by the low thyriod. The levothyroxin came into play leter when I switched doctors, and that really messed things up even more. Because the real problem was that the NDT was too low, and they should have just increased the dosage, but I had just switched doctors and she really pushed the levo against my better judgement.
Thanks so much for your encouragement and insight! It's been very helpful!
Catherine
cameronita Edgar61
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gill43753 Guest
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I only came across this discussion because I searched 'Weight gain and Levothyroxine', and have now booked a double appointment with my GP to discuss things.I really hope he can help.
MtViewCatherine gill43753
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I have nbever been checked for hypopituitary, though suspect that's part of the problem for me. How do did you get diagnosed? Is there anything to be done for the hypopituitary?
gill43753 MtViewCatherine
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