Unacceptable side effects of Levothyroxine

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I was described Levothryoxine 2 years ago and my GP has increased it until I am now taking 125mcg.I have never had so many various symptoms in my life - severe weight gain including puffy face and eyes, very itchy dry skin, brittle nails, thinning hair but the major items are the pains in my joints and muscles - especially in my knees and my hands. The doctor said I have carpal tunnel syndrome and also now have high cholesterol,,,,,,, When reading other peoples' experiences it would appear that many people have all of these symptoms so why is it that GP's do not take this illness more seriously. I recently asked if I could have a full blood showing all readings and also if I could be prescribed Armour and was told no. It also scared me to find that several pharmacists in major chemists haad never even heard of Armour. Has anyone felt like they have had enough and just stopped taking Levothyroxine and what was the result?

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    I share most of these symptoms and I too asked for a full Thyroid panel blood test and I was told no! I asked to go on Armour and was also told no! I did my own thyroid panel blood test via an online process. It cost $285 but at least I now have all of the data. I have a free on line consultation next week and I will report back. I have no idea why GPs nor Endos will not do comoplete tests, the first thing any scientist does when presented with any phenomena or problem is "Measure the hell out of it!" Then you know what you are up against. I have a terrible sneaking feeling that once they have all of the data they do not know what to do with it! I think I know what my problem is (from this latest blood test) but after extensive research on the specific topic I have not found an answer - and maybe that is the doctor's predicament. The science hasn't got that far yet - or the latest pill has a defect causing the problem in the first place (and for some reason they are not going to admit it).
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      Hello- Your experience is, unfortunately, pretty typical. WHat doctors don't tell you is that they have a "protocol", that they implement, and that doesn't work for anyone. An underlying false assumption in this protocol is that parients are hyperthyroid, but falsely think they are hypothyroid. Thyrpoid medication is treated as if it is a narcotic, and patients are treated as if they are asking for controlled substance when they request increased dosage.

      To make matter worse, doctors seem to have little experience evaluating and observing in a scientific manner, referring to labs, and a computer before looking at the patient. Data means nothing without a reference point. Apparently there is no class on the scientific method in med school.

      Worse yet, I recently doscovered an article in which it is shown that Synthroid was on the market in the US for over 50 years without FDA approval. The manufacturer was required by the FDA to get approval in 2001, and they recieved FDA approval in 2002. Clearly not the typical 7+ years required for clinical trials.  So efficacy may never have been proven, since the generics would only have to have shown equivalency, not separate efficacy. This totally explains why the stuff didn't work at all for me, and doesn't work for a lot of people.

      For the umpteen time, my thyroid levels have crashed recently. I emailed my doc to ask to increase the doseage and recieved a response back telling me that my symptoms are hyperthyroid and that my meds are too high. This was based on the blood work done two months prior, with midrange results. I did my best using an old prescription to increase the doseage enough to be able to function and get to my previous doctor 350 miles away, This took three weeks after increasing it myself, resulting in still lower blood test results than what showed two months earlier, proving my levels had been dangerously low, and had done so in only two months. Simply, I raised the dose on my own, waited three weeks, got a blood test, and the results were still way low. I have Hashimoto's, and it seems the thyroid levels are all over the place, and the meds are extremely difficult to regulate. Every time I feel like I'm doing ok, it lasts for a short time, then my life spirals out of control as I can't function, because by the time I'm able to increase the dose enough to function, I've been kicked out of my master's program, fired, whatever, and have to start all over, putting my life back together.

      Fortunately this doctor I saw today understands this is a very typical pattern with thyroid patients, and offered some solutions that I hope will help. He also validated that I do need an increased dose, and fixed that right away. I'm on a high dose. 180mcg of Naturthroid, so he recommended splitting it, because it's hard on the body if you take it all in one dose. So I'll start taking 90mcg, twice a day. I'm hoping that will get me back on track.

      Thansk for posting, your story is [retty typical. Get help where and however you can. Good luck!

      Catherine

       

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      The Dr. with whom I had my telephone interview recommended  that I go on Armor Thyroid. I asked my Endo if I could do that and was again told no. I showed her my decline in T3 over the years (I am now 100+/-) with high reverse T3 (~24) and asked if I could take cyclomel (T3) or some dose of selenium to boost my T3 production...again no. Although  I have obvious hypo symptoms she told me (from TSH and T4 only) that I was hypER! With that I gave up and have changed Endos. I can tell that my new endo will also give me the "party line" eventually but at least he is testing for adrenal failure - and believes me when I reel off my symptoms. For what it is worth they say that they like to minimize the T4 dose (and thus T3) so that we don't get osteoporosis and reduction of muscle tissue -in particular the heart muscle. And, to be fair, he is measureing my bone density to see if very much damage has already been done. I'll report back on that one. 

      So, I just thought I would let you know these details in case it's of any use to anyone out there.

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      A couple of things. If your digestion and liver are not working well, your will have low T4-T3 conversion. Also, if our adrenals are overtaxed, this will result in high reverse T3. With these, generally your TSH will not be a good indicator as it will not spike in proper roportion to your symptoms. In addition, the meds may cause your TSH to zero out, which is normal for some people on the meds.

      I find I need a very high dose and high end blood work to feel noromal.  Plus, I can't tell anything thing else that's wrong if they meds are too low. You always  haveto get the thyroid right or as best as you can first, then get everything else back on track.

      I took the Armour for a while but switched because it has corn products in it. I do better on Naturethroid, but it contains lactose. I'm not sure why nearly every one of these meds contains at least one of the top ten allergens, when thyroid disease is autoimmune.

      Good luck.

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      You must have read my mind somehow! I believe my T4-T3 conversion is feeble, I just read up on what happens in the liver and I just changed Endos to one who checked out my cortisol as a barometer of health for my adrenals. Hopefully the new Endo will be more analytical and measure more than TSH and T4. She is younger so maybe she is reading the latest literature.
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      Hi catherine, I've been researching I can't find any brands of synthetic levothyroxine that omit maize starch and lactose. So I then looked at natural desiccated thyroid and there are two (I think - do check) that don't contain lactose or maize starch (aka corn) both of which cause me problems. With lactose I get an itchy rash, diarrhoea, stomach cramps, bloating and gas. With maize starch I get a metallic taste in my mouth, a sore tongue like it has been burnt, eczema and swell up. The two I think haven't got lactose and maize starch in are ThyroGold and Nutri-Meds. I've just ordered the former to try and am thinking of ordering the latter.
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      PS the above is with full knowledge and support of my GP.
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      There is also liquid thyroxine which contains only the two active ingrediens and sucrose. It is expensive so in UK one has to be able to imdemonstrate a strong lactose allergy to get it prescribed on NHS. Unfortunately my fingers swelled up after just one dose! I'm disappointed as I thought I had found the answer sad
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      Do not listen to your doctor.  He doesn't know everything.  You should be taking Selenium 200 mcg. Zinc-copper, and other supplements.  There is a great deal of info on the internet on  treating this condition naturally.  Remember, knowledge is power.  
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      Thanks for the info on the Selenium dose. 200 mcg, got it. Will buy it tomorrow.
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      Doctors know nothing about nutrition, herbs etc.  Iron, selenium and vitamin b are useful, it is cheaper to get a multivitamin mineral.

      Also be careful of interactions with drugs. My stupid doctor gave me an ear spray for an ear ache and a nose spray for a sinusy nose. I got worse and worse.  Then searching on google I found out that both medications should never be given to people with an underactive thyroid as it attacks the thyroid and gives far worse syhmptoms.

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      I have just realised why I swelled up in response to the liquid thyroxine. It contains glycerol (not sucrose) and glycerol can come from corn and I'm intolerant to corn.
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      Interesting about the glycerine and the corn causing se\welling up. I'll keep searching for triggers as to what might be causing it for me.

      Thanks!

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      Out of all comments here, I found an interest in yours. I agree with you 1000%. I'm done with the docs wasting 14 years of my life and keeping me more ill with Levo. Time for a change. I want to take control of my health. What vitamins, supplements, herbs, etc. you recommend for hypothyroidism?

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      HI lissette,  I use essential amino acid complex and phenylalanine supplements.  I find thus to be more effective than the meds, though not perfect. I’m so messed up from the Levo, I think this regime would have worked for me s lot better if I hadn’t taken the Levo for three years.

      I do a ton of cleansing, massage, acupuncture. 

      I use borax therapy for calcification, turmeric for inflammation, liquid mulberry leaf chlorophyll for detoxing, as well as activated charcoal.

      I find regular soaks in a hot tub and sauna help regulate my body by giving it a break from being ice cold. 

      I do regular liver/ gallbladder flushes.

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      Hi Lissette, I sent you a private message with some resources that I’ve found helpful in going off this horrible medication. Hope you find them helpful!
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      Levothyroxin is crap, it should have been banned years ago and the drug companies forced to make a decent medication. I'm trying alternatives at the moment, NDT with all the problems getting it is too expensive so looking at another solution at the moment

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      I completely agree with you Rosie! Levo should never be used! There are so many better solutions that don’t cause a bunch of health problems!

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