upper body pain
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My friend who is on her 7th year of PMR and down to 5.5mg met someone today who was diagnosed with PMR 3 weeks ago and started on 8mg!! This sounds unbelievable to me. She is already down to 6mg and feels ok. How can this be? She said she had bad upper body pain and couldn't dress herself and lift her arms at the start. Is it possible to have a very mild attack and start off on 8mg??? I can't help feeling she will come a cropper if she is dropping this fast if it really is PMR. Would appreciate some thoughts out of interest...
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Anonymous111 diana21296
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diana21296 Anonymous111
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linda17563 Anonymous111
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macas02 Anonymous111
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If only that was true, over 7 years now and so many ups and downs. I actually feel quite cross when I,m told it should ONLY be two years.!!!!!. I like most people on this forum would love to be free of this illness and we certainly don't want to be taking steroids for longer than necessary.
EileenH Anonymous111
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Really? Tell that to the birds!!!! As I'm sure you have already gathered from the other responses.
Only about 25% of patients with PMR are able to get off pred in 2 years or less and they are felt to remain at a higher risk of a relapse at some later date. About half take up to 4 to 6 years to get off pred with about 1/3 of patients in total still being on pred at 6 years. The last quarter take longer, 5% in total have PMR for the rest of their life.
BettyE Anonymous111
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I've had it twice; 3 years and 5 years. Only wish you were right.
GeordieJane diana21296
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Hi everyone, As has been said many many times, PMR is a very personal journey and different for everyone but to respond to this latest question. I was diagnosed with PMR May 2016. Like everyone, was terrified of going on steroids and negotiated with my GP that I would 'manage the pain!' I didn't and ended up going back to the GP in a matter of weeks in tears begging for the steroids. I was rolling out of bed in the mornings, terrible pain at night, pain in shoulders and hips, waddling when walking and was struggling with basic dressing. I have always been a keen member of a gym and couldn't attempt any of my usual classes which was very depressing. I was an emotional wreck most of the time. My GP started me on 5 mgs October 2017 and although I noticed an improvement in 24 hours I wasn't pain free so we increased to 7mgs. This was miraculous for me........I am gradually weaning off the steroids following the tried and tested procedure and am working towards 5mgs now. I have had a couple of blips with the weaning, not resulting in increased pain but dizziness and nausea. Anyway, after 12 months, I am pain free and back to the gym but more gentle classes than I used to do. I know this isn't the usual pattern of PMR for most people but it's important to describe the range of 'journeys' that are out there and, for me starting on the lower dose and increasing worked.
diana21296 GeordieJane
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Michdonn diana21296
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diana21296, some people have a short journey, some long, some a smooth journey, some bump. The first 10 months of mine was smooth. I had from 20 mg to 7 and I had a flare, had go to 30 to get relief. I had to roll into my doctor appointment in a wheelchair. I am now trapering to 11, had 2 small flares under 15.
We are all different with individual cases. Good luck to your friends, but remember it is not a race. 🙂
diana21296 Michdonn
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Michdonn diana21296
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Thanks, I try and call it as I see it.
Stay positive and smile, life is good. 🙂
nick67069 diana21296
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Diane, I think initial dose is higher then people need to get rid of accumulated inflammation. After that you are looking for "maintenance" dose, that manages PMR symptoms. This dose depends on how active PMR is and is very individual and also can change over time. I think your friend is lucky to have mild version that can be managed with relatively lower dose.
diana21296 nick67069
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Michdonn diana21296
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diana, my initial dose was 20 mg then 9 months later a flare need 30 mg to get rid of accumulated inflammation build up from 7 mg to 30 mg in little steps. Now as soon as I get a flare I bump my dosage quickly. SMILING 🙂
EileenH diana21296
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If it is diagnosed very quickly and is a mild episode where the longterm dose may be as little as 5mg or less then 8mg may well be enough if there isn't much residual inflammation to clear up. There is also the bioavailability to think of - some people absorb 90% of what they take, others only 50%. Someone could start on 15mg but only effectively get 7.5mg while another takes 8mg and effectively gets nearly 7.5mg. I know a couple of people who started on 10mg and that worked fine.
nick67069 EileenH
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EileenH nick67069
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Comment about rate?
Bioavailabilty is "the proportion of a drug or other substance which enters the circulation when introduced into the body and so is able to have an active effect.". So in the case of pred, do you absorb 50% of the stuff you swallowed - or 90% of it. Rate differs too but it gets there eventually and you look at the area under the curve if you draw the graph. That's why injected stuff is "better" - it all gets there.