Upper G.I endoscopy sedation

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Hi. I have Dysphagia and I have this test tomorrow, have been to GP twice to get something to calm me & help me sleep but nothing working. They won't do a general only sedation. Will they still sedate me if I have taken 25mg Phenergan, 15mg Diazepam & 40mg Propanolol as I am going to take this tomorrow before I go to try and avoid having a panic attack in waiting room and not even getting to go any further with the test, as they are not working seperately and Gp never said they couldn't be taken together. Can't see Gp till next week now to find out. I am going completely crazy and if not am cancelling appointment at southend tomorrow and living with problem.

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    Hi Deb, I've seen you on another forum in this group but can't remember your details. Refresh my memory: you're not over 60, are you? And are you used to taking diazepam? And would 40mg of propranolol be your normal morning dose? (If you're regularly taking diazepam and propranolol, I assume this will be in your medical notes anyway.)

    I'm asking because they only give a half-dose of sedation to the over-60s (over-65 in some hospitals), in which case you might get away with the diazepam. Also, if you're used to taking diazepam you'll have developed a high level of tolerance to it anyway. However, 15mg sounds on the high side, especially as the sedation they're going to give you is in the same group (benzodiazepines). I'd advise you to only take your normal morning dose - on the assumption this is prescribed for you.

    I fully understand your panic and my heart goes out to you. I was exactly the same, although I was having the gastroscopy for a different reason. But, as a former nurse, I'd strongly advise you not to take any phenergan tomorrow morning. If you tell the doctors, they will probably refuse to sedate you or else give you a very small dose. If you don't tell them, and allow them to sedate you, you might be putting yourself in danger. Please don't do that. You could, however, take it this evening to help you sleep.

    I know just how terrified you're feeling, but look at it this way - by this time tomorrow it will be all over. And the vast majority of patients under the age of 60 come out of the procedure without any recollection of it.

    If you're having difficulty swallowing it really would be a good idea to look at the cause - which I'm guessing is only acid reflux, giving that they're going for gastroscopy rather than an ENT consultation. But acid reflux can be dangerous for the lining of the oesaphagus if it's allowed to go on for too long, so you need to get this properly diagnosed and treated.

    Let me know how you got on.

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      Hi. No I'm only 41. I've never had any sedation before, or ever used any of these calming or sleeping pills before seeing Gp end of last week. I tried 4mg Diazepam and 25mg Phenergan as told, but nothing happened , no calmer and still not sleeping. So went back gave me 10mg, three times day Propanolol, tried that still no calmer. So have decided to take them altogether to hope to stay calm enough to get there. I have dysphagia and had barium swallow that showed my throat had poor distensibility. Southend hospital want me to try gastroscopy again, but am terrified. I just want them to give me a general. If not I don't really care anymore what is wrong, I just want this over.
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      I don't think it's acid reflux as it showed up at cervical C5 C6 level. I do have a goitre but they won't listen to me and sort that out first to see if that's the problem. I know I can't cope any more with this. I don't trust them. I don't want anyone messing around with me, ( I don't even have my ears pierced ). I just feel at the end of it all and can't take anymore of them not listening. 
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    I had an endoscopy late last year and I was absolutely terrified.  I'm a nervous person at the best of times and I wasn't looking forward to it one bit.  I always find that I'm worse during the lead up to something but am much calmer when I'm actually doing it.  My husband came with me and I appeared to be calm, even though I was quaking inside.  They called me into a small room, I was asked if I wanted sedation but I had decided that I didn't want it, mainly because you can't leave soon after.  It was explained to me what was going to happen, the doctor sprayed the back of my throat with something that he said was banana flavour (never had a banana that tasted like that) I lay on a bed on my side, the room was darkened and I was given a guard to put between my teeth. I could see the end of the endoscope coming towards me as it has a light on the end.  I was asked to swallow and I concentrated hard on doing that which made it a lot easier for it to go down. I controlled my breathing so it was slow and easy and heard the running commentary from the doctor about what he was doing, what he was seeing and when he took a couple of biopsies I didn't feel anything.  I was told that the endoscope was going to be taken out and it was only when the end got to my throat that I gagged once and it was all over. The doctor was so impressed with how calm I had been he said he should have done a video to show his other nervous patients!  I had spent the previous night in a terrible state and all for nothing.  As soon as I had had a drink to make sure I could swallow OK I went straight down to Devon for the weekend  Apart from a slight sore throat for a day there were no after effects.  The endoscopy found that the muscle at the top of my stomach wasn't closing properly (it was fascinating to actually see it on the screen) I was given a printed report and was told that although polyps had been found in my stomach they would be left alone, it's when they are in other places that they are treated.  Please believe that the endoscopy will NOT be as bad as you think it's going to be.  Let us know how you get on.
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      Hi. I am so glad you were ok. I went about seven weeks ago for it but only got as far as the waiting room, then had a huge panic attack. That's when they sent me for a barium swallow instead and a thyroid scan. But now their back to the gastroscopy. I'm feeling as though nothing is going to get sorted as i don't really care anymore if taking these pills does mean it's dangerous if I get as far as them sedating me this time, as the pills have made me no less terrified. 
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      Deb, it's really not that bad. If you have the sedation it's practically guaranteed you won't remember a thing about it aftwerards and that's what counts. Especially as you're under 60, so you'll get a full dose of sedation. Please don't take the phenergan.

      Sending you good thoughts. Lily

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      Hi lily. You don't need to worry took the pills 2hours ago and no effect, still in tears and terrified. I really have given up hope of a general and can't see it happening and if they do manage to sedate me then good luck to them because I have failed to. Still 6 hours to go, so maybe they will kick in?
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      Hi Deb. It's quite possible they'll kick in by the time you get there. At a pinch, you could also take another 10mg of diazepam an hour or so before the test, but I wouldn't advise any more phenergan. All this will soon be over now, and I expect you'll be reassuring others on this forum by tomorrow!

      Good luck!

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      Hi. The pills never kicked in. I was in a complete state again and then found out it wasn't just my throat they were going to look at everything, (as the doctor who arranged it told me he needed to see what was wrong with my throat, nothing about looking in my stomach, etc). So that was it. Doctor who was going to carry it out happened to be a surgeon, and when she saw me she said she would not do it. She was really nice, and has left a letter for the consultant to either arrange a CT scan or she will do it under a general, as she said I am not going to be able to have it any other way safely. So am now waiting to see what happens now. But i will never go for anything like that again, I will just refuse.
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      I'm sorry to hear you were put through all this twice, Deb. This is the kind of story that makes me glad I live in a continental European country. In its efforts to save money, the  NHS has not only put you through a second pointless trauma but "wasted" another appointment that could have been used for an urgent case. One try wa
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      Oops! Hit a wrong key and accidentally sent an unfinished message. Repeating:

      I'm sorry to hear you were put through all this twice, Deb. This is the kind of story that makes me glad I live in a continental European country. In its efforts to save money, the  NHS has not only put you through a second pointless trauma but "wasted" yet another appointment that could have been used for an urgent case. One try was fair enough but they should have seen that you wouldn't be able to cope after that.

      I'm glad to hear that they've finally seen reason, albeit at the cost of putting you through a second terrible time. I'm also glad to hear that you got to see a sensible, sympathetic doctor this time.

      Hope all goes well next time round, whether it's gastroscopy under GA or a CT scan. Stay in touch if you want to. Lily

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