V Loud Tinitus

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Hi I have recently started with V loud Tinnitus, quite frankly driving me mad. I have had it for many years in a bearable mild form, being mostly able to live normally and just ignore it. So I'm on a mission to try and weed out anything that may contribute, including a long list of what are commonly called medicines but are actually chemical drugs, which I find myself taking on a daily basis. Already eliminated Aspirin and Bendroflumethiaside (2.5) that have apparently shown no difference since I stopped them. One has to ask the question why doctors are so keen to prescribe all this stuff in the first place without careful evaluation and monitoring as to whether each is in fact actually serving a purpose. But back on the Ramiprill, as I write this I take 2 pills a day each 5mg one morning and one night. It seems patently clear to me from the many posts here and elsewhere that Ramiprill can cause or exacerbate Tinnitus. Now I will not just unilaterally stop any medication but will for sure take on the doc's and make them justify the treatment and now in my case request that my dose is halted to start with and after monitoring the effect either stop the other half or scratch their heads and find a replacement drug that does not have the same effect on my Tinnitus. Any other Tinnitus sufferers out there who are expereincing the same problem and suspect Ramaprill.

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    I have also suffered from Tinitus for a number of years, it varies in intensity day to day, at present it is bearable. I have suspected Ramipril as the cause, I take this once daily 5mg. I've spoken to my doctor about this who looks at me blankly, and suggests that if it should become intolerable to pass me on to a consultant for ear pieces !. I think the only time he may consider this condition in a more serious light is if he starts to suffer himself.

    I may suggest a change from Ramiril, but have found in the past alternatives also have 'disadvantages'.

    Carl

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    Hi Carl. I have been on Ramipril 10 mg for some time now lets say at least 9 months. Along with that I take Propranol Hydrochloride 80mg twice a day and Amlodipine 5 mg once a day for blood pressure. Anyway my visit to the kidney clinic is tomorrow and I will test the water about the Ramipril and see if I can with their agreement at least halve the dose for a while and see if it helps. Will report back if this happens and what the result is. I have had Tinnitus for about 10 years but in the last 6 weeks it went balastic and drove me mad. I must say right now it is a little better (almost bearable) but I really need to get to the bottom of this problem. It still oscillates between half bearable and madness. The improvement according to me is because I stopped my daily dose of asprin and bendroflumethiaside which helped. For now G
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    Hi Carl..Great news the kidney specialist has agreed that I drop the Ramapril dose to 5mg a day to see what happens. Mind you I don't think his decission was due to the Tinnitus but more my very low pulse rate and dizzy spells he is worried about. So starting today I will halve it and see what happens. G
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    Hi guys. I can confirm that I have the same issue and another related one. I'm 64 now but when in my 20s I had a serious problem with my right ear and had \"mastoid surgery\" and am virtually deaf in that ear. I've always had occasional and mild tinnitus in it but since being on Ramipril it's become much more frequent and intense.

    In addition, my hearing in my left ear has deteriorated and I've been prescribed a hearing aid to give me some \"high frequency boost\". I think that's an over simplification though. From my own observation I think there is a problem with what I'd call dynamic range. There's not much difference in level between what's a perceptible noise and one which is positivly deafening and distorted. My ear drum feels \"slack\". All my life I've never know what it's like for an ear to \"pop\" but I do now! it pops when I draw a deep breath! I can feel my drum moving when I pressurise my ears by sealing my mouth and nose and expressing air from my lungs, something I've never experienced before. I think this is because the Ramipril is affecting these tissues in the same way as it does blood vessels, which is how it lowers blood presure, by causing them to \"relax\".

    Question is what's worse , risk of a cerebal haemorrage (which is what killed my dad) or impaired hearing? No brainer I guess but I'd like to try something else if it has lower side effects.

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    Hi Bazza, I have halved my Ramipril for a few days now and to be honnest am not so sure it has made a difference. It's a bit early to say but will report back after a week or so to let things settle. I spoke to another guy on the site who had thought Ramapril was a problem but he eventually found out it was something else, he could not remember what but not the Ramipril. Anyway who know's. I now oscilate between quite loud and V Loud (unberable) but have seen what I think is an improvement from stopping the water pills and asprin both of which have Tinnitus listed as possible side effects. I worry about the asprin as it is a blood thinning agent and they found out just yesterday that I also have atrail fibrillation, the most serious possible danger of which is clot formation and stroke. So as soon as I get a handle on the meds (tinnitus wise) I may well try asprin again. We all need to remember that \"stress\" is a major player when it comes to Tinnitus and boy am I stressed at the moment, well much more than usual. I am looking for a yoga class nearby to join and learn relaxation techniques and the rest to see if that helps. The more you think about the dam ringing the more stressed you become and the worse it gets. Anyway that's all I can say for now. G
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    :shock: Hi folks, I suffer from genetic Haemochromatosis (iron overload) the most common genetic illness in North europeans, although most GPs do not recognise it haemochromatosis.org.uk . This has brought on early onset arthritis (I was thankfully diagnosed privately at 48 after joint problems), liver problems including increased fibrosis and heart failure. I am on ramipril (5mg) and furosemide 40mg and they have helped the initial problems with fluid retention, pressure in throat and chest and proximal nocturnal dysnpea (choking and unable to sleep due to lungs filling up lying down), although I am worried about Ramiprils effects on my kidneys which ache (and my balls also, after going up to 5mg from 2.5). I need to have my ramipril raised again as I can become ill in the evening when my tinitus gets worse, but I'm still chasing a proper cardiac diagnosis of what is causing my HF - cardiologist has said it is NYHA stage 3 HF due to diastolic dysfunction because of high blood pressure. I had tinnitus before I took ramipril, it came on in april this year and I believe this is due to blood flow issues due to HBP causing back pressure into the jugular venous system. Ramipril obvious drops blood pressure, so I believe it is this that may also in some disrupt blood flow to ears. I have been taking pycnogenol (extract of french maritime pine bark) which is supposed to help with increasing blood flow (including libido and tinnitus) and also offset some of the damaging affects of ramipril on the kidneys pycnogenol.com, although I'm awaiting kidney tests to confirm any problems - I certainly felt better taking the initial double dose of pycnogenol with ramipril (Pharma Nord 40 mg bio-pycnogenol tablets). Both my mother and a friend with chronic kidney disease don't use ramipril because of it's known inpact on kidneys, I have been told by my friend that the ACEII sartans are the way to go as they have less nasty side effects.

    Best wishes to all

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    Hi there

    I have been taking ramipril for 5 years. I developed labrynthitis and mild tinnitus at first. The labrynthitis was so bad I had to have a cat scan. I have suffered tinnitus since and was told nothing could be done. This became so bad lately that I was then sent for an MRI. This proved negative. I was so desperate I started questioning ramipril and decided to stop taking my ramipril 5. The first week there was no change. .the second week tinnitus was a lot quieter the third week was nearly non existent. It's like I'm a new person..sleeping through the night and now being able to concentrate. Hope this helps.I am also on new medication.

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      Hi carol

      This sounds like my issues. I have suffered from tinnitus for many years but it has always been just simple background. In the last couple of years it has become very loud and accompanied by pressure in the ears.

      Recently I have had a couple of bad dizzy spells and I am suspecting ramipril.

      I'm very bad at taking my meds and can be a bit haphazard, today I remembered to take ramipril (10mg) and about 4 hours later came over very unsteady and lightheaded

      I suspect the ramipril!

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