Vaccines exist for Herpes?

OOOH wow

So you can donate blood with no issues what so ever ?

I was always scared to donate blood because when they gave me a test for stds it would show up .

Then again I have never donated blood before ever so I don't know how that works .

I just automatically assumed that they would deny me because I have herpes.

Does it matter what type of herpes ?? Or ?

No, it doesn't matter which type. As far as I know, they don't test for it, since it's not viewed as blood-borne. Only the big ones like HIV, etc. If they did exclude donations from people with either herpes type, imagine how few donors they'd be left with, lol.

HI felis, really. People can donate blood even if they have herpes. I was told anyone who has herpes can nit donate blood . And the person who told has herpes type 2.

I asked to ask you if you can resend me what was you reply last night from the conversation we had. Tried to open it and it didn't let me . Thank you.

Think there was a server error before. Should work now. Yes, herpes carriers can donate blood. Think about it. Around 70-80% carry Type 1, and in the US ~20% carry Type 2, most unknowingly. It is also not part of routine testing. So, impossible to deny so many potential donors and many don't even know! CDC does not even recommend routine testing, unless you have reason to suspect herpes.

Yes there was an error earlier when I tried to sign in. It's makes sense. My regular doctor. Never tested me for herpes even when I asked for a std test.

I when to another clinic and I asked for a std tested when I was in one of my old relationships. And they tested me for it without asking me if I have any symptoms. I would likeep for you aND I to stay in touch. Your are very smart and knowledgeable.

If someone doesnt have an outbreak . I's it true it can not be passed on

Aww, thanks. I try to be, lol. No, that's not true. Doctors and experts used to believe that, but it's since been found that the virus sheds at random, without symptoms, from the genitals (vagina/penis, anus, the lot), regardless of lesions or where outbreaks appeared previously. This happens on average ~30% of days and is the most common way it is passed on. Referring to Type 2, that is.

Oh ok. I see. This thing is scary . And your very welcome. Do you date? Do you get scared on telling the next partner that you have herpes? How can someone go about telling someone they met and they care for that person?

Can someone get herpes by sharing the same towel?

No you can't get herpes by sharing the same towel.

If that's the point mugs would've been done got the virus a long time ago !

I'm talking about with the bath towels

No .. That's what I was referring to also .

No you can't catch herpes from using the same Bath towel, face towel, clothes .. None of that .

Oh ok. I understand. Thank you

Does anyone know when, where and how herpes originated? I mean the very first person who got it, where did they get it? I'm asking because I think it (hsv2) can be transmitted by mean other than sex.

The herpes virus has been around for ages, since early man. Homo erectus is believed to be the first to have acquired it, so I don't think it's possible to trace it back to the first person!

Regarding the towel question, no, herpes can't really be spread that way, but they say not to immediately share a damp towel that has just been in contact with actual lesions as a precaution. Slim possibility in that specific scenario. Sharing a towel that's dried hours later, or one that hasn't touched lesions, is fine.

Yes, that is so true Homo erectus is the first person in early man that got it. I learned that in school.

But at that time. How can someone actually diagnosis a diseas or illness? I believe they didn't have the technology we have today

Hmmm, I'm thinking you must be mistaken about what you learnt at school, as this only came to light recently by some researchers at a US university. Think they studied the DNA, how it evolves, or something like that. Can't remember the details of the study. Homo erectus definitely didn't have any testing methods back then. They were still fairly ape-like!

I'm not mistaken at all. I do remember the name . When I went to massage school. The professor was taking about the different diseases. And herpes was one of them. And how it became about .

That's pretty impressive if they taught you that!

Thanks. When you brought it up?,that''s when I remembered. I was just reading the history about . It makes me angry just reading about It

Hey FelisCatus, I think what I'm getting at is this...there had to be a first, the first person (however long) to contract herpes. Where did that first person acquire it? If it were through sex, then that wouldn't have been the first person. There had to be a first person and that person couldn't have gotten it from sex...I'm asking because of the freakish nature of my situation and it just doesn't make sense to me unless there's another means of transmission, I don't believe I got hsv2 from sex, but everything I read says that's the only way you can contract but if that's true, again I ask, where did the first person ever get it?

Well, HSV-2 is believed to have jumped from ancient chimpanzees to homo erectus millions of years ago and I suppose it's been passed on ever since, so you can't find the answer to your question. Like HIV, except it didn't jump species until much more recently, thus allowing us to trace the earliest known human cases, although I'm sure they still weren't the "first". What is so freakish about your situation that makes you think sex wasn't the mode of transmission, and how did you test positive?

Well because until I was diagnosed, I've had only had unprotected sex (any kind of sex) with one person in over 15 years, he tested negative. Prior to that, I had only had sex with my sons father once (the condom broke) and he too is negative. I have no symptoms nor have I ever had any symptoms...I had the test done because it was time for my annual and my gyn asked if I wanted the std panel and herpes test...I say sure, why not. To my surprise, I tested positive for hsv2. The question came about because I have a friend that I've known for years and she's had hsv2 for almost 20 years. The crazy thing is after I told her about my diagnosis, she told me that her mom and another close friend had also been recently diagnosed. And of course that made me wonder since the other scenarios just didn't make sense. ANY IDEAS? I'm fresh out.

Btw: when you say the virus jumped, are you meaning in the evolution process or are you saying people were having sex with chimpanzees?

Just a freakish evolutionary event, I suspect.

What test did you have done and your friend, etc.? People with oral Type 1 can sometimes test a low false positive by IgG, and many doctors don't know that and interpret it literally. IgM is unreliable. Many false positives. Hence my question.

Hi FelisCatus

Not sure, when acquiring the herpes virus, but I think that was the rub too my glans with the vagina of a sexual partner, in the year September 2014 in my case I had no idea what was happening to me, because never present or have presented sores, however inside the urethra and sometimes around the anus, felt itching and burning the first time was terrible, but what I noticed is that when he ate and drank sugary drinks the pain was more intense and date so, if I do not take everything it is perfect but when i eat  like chocolate or sugary  is something terrible.,i never had a hsv test  but each symptom at least inside of me  makes me recognize that it is HSV2 someone happens like? 

Could it be yeast related instead? The sugar connection is more likely with yeast than herpes.

We both took the igg, I took the igg twice and the wb once (all within a month) and all were positive for me, his igg was negative. Is there a possibility that his igg was the 1 in 4 that igg missed? Any thoughts on the coincidental connection between my friend girl and the people close to her being recently diagnosed with hsv? Just struggling to understand how any of this is possible. I also read that igg rarely produces false positives but can produce a false negative 1 out of 4. Also just a another irony for you to ponder. I asked my gyn, of all the diagnosis she's delivered has anyone ever retested later and tested negative; she said she had1 patient who had previously tested positive and a year later retested and did test negative. I then asked of the patients that have tested positive, how many have come back to you to retest and her answer was just that 1. My question is, is it possible that there are many other asymptomatics that tested positive and are living their lives thinking they have hsv but in fact don't? Sorry to throw all of this at you but I'm really struggling and have no one else to talk to because even with the inconsistencies, my gyn is still textbook and does not deviate when things make no sense.

but the first outbreak was really painful and i had a post herpetic neuralgia, At first I thought it was also a yeast infection, but Im Living in Mexico and in this country there is a lot of ignorance about the virus although it has become very common

 

Was your positive WB by the University of Washington? If so, then that is a definite positive, unfortunately. As for your bf, the missing one in four cases applies to HSV-1 not 2. It would seem that he is indeed negative (at the time), if tested by IgG. Did you see his results? The test can miss 2% of cases, but the odds of him falling into that 2% are admittedly low. Did your child's father ever show you his results? Ever had genital to genital contact with someone else (not necessarily sex)?

While your case is rather odd, that of your friends et al. I suspect is due to at least some of them testing incorrectly (IgM) or scoring a low positive by IgG that was taken at face value by their doctors, which seems to happen a lot.

Thanks FelisCatus. I really like getting your take on things. Yes, mine was wb univ of wash. My ex bf was not and I saw his results but I didn't actually see my child's fathers results.

Sorry for being naive, but what the heck is genital to genital contact if not sex of some sort? Oh, do you mean naked grinding or something like that?

Lol, yes, regarding the latter. If nothing of the sort ever happened with anyone else, and no actual sex either until your current partner, then I'd go with the father of your child, based on the "evidence" so far.

And to clarify my previous reply, the IgG for *HSV-2* misses only 2%. The IgG for Type 1 is the one that can apparently miss one in four cases. So, if your current partner tested negative for HSV-2 IgG, then in all probability he did not have Type 2 at the time (or had a very new infection when he tested, or else he happens to fall within the exceptional 2%). Since you did not see your ex's results, and based on the odds, I can only guess it was him, unless you have had "naked grinding", as you put it, lol, or sex with someone else, or received oral sex from someone else who is one of the few to uncommonly carry Type 2 orally (but even then, shedding barely occurs with oral Type 2). If none of the above, then I'm also stumped!

Feliscatus is very intelligent. I just love how this person is straight to the point .