Very interesting ophthalmologist views
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Observations from a new discussion between two ophthalmologists:
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- Doctor advises against monovision, and steers patients to multifocal lenses instead. He says you need anisometropia of 2.5 D to get satisfactory reading vision in monovision, and that that much anisometropia can cause problems, including the possibility of insufficient binocular vision for driving - even with corrective lenses! I'd never heard that one before, but the interviewer ophthalmologist seemed to agree. My own experience is different - my driving vision was both legal and sufficient with much greater anisometropia in recent years than 2.5 D, but my experience is only one guy's experience.
- If a patient insists on monovision, the doctor uses EDOF lenses. For both eyes, I think, to better cover the full range of distances with both eyes.
- This one surprised me (and it surprised the doctors, too, at first): Doctor generally targets slight hyperopia - up to 0.15 D. Whereas most surgeons target emmetropia or slight myopia in an effort to minimize the risk of hyperopia. The reason was interesting, and was supported by research published by a colleague on actual results for a large number of patients. Even with an artificial lens, when you attempt to focus on an object that is out of focus, hyperopia produces miosis (constriction of the pupil/iris) and better vision, whereas myopia produces the opposite - relaxation of the iris (mydriasis) and poorer vision.
- Regarding blue/violet/ultraviolet light filtering - Doctor says his patients show a strong preference for vision with clear lenses over vision with the yellowish lenses that filter out bluish light. He generally uses the clear lenses, and tries to avoid mixing types on the two eyes of the same patient.
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There was also a lot of technical stuff that I was less interested in. Some food for thought as I consider my remaining cataract treatments.
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jo61855 phil09
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These two views align with my own situation. Refreshing to see this stated here, with all the recommendations for targeting residual myopia.
"If a patient insists on monovision, the doctor uses EDOF lenses. For both eyes, I think, to better cover the full range of distances with both eyes...
Doctor generally targets slight hyperopia - up to 0.15 D."
He says that his patients tend prefer clear lenses so that is what he generally uses. I didn't get the impression that he recommends them over blue light filtering ones. He doesn't believe in mixing them in the same patient,
RonAKA jo61855
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My surgeon's views were very different.
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This said I think a case can be made, particularly in younger patients to use a hybrid mini-monovision with an EDOF in the near eye, if one can accept the optical risks associated with the EDOF technology. A younger person typically has larger pupils and at least until they get older do not benefit from the pinhole effect of smaller pupils which adds to the useable depth of focus. The article below talks about using hybrid monovision in younger patients with good success. This article convinced me it was worth considering, and I was going to do it, right up until the surgeon discouraged me.
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Clinics in Surgery 2018 | Volume 3 | Article 2027
Monovision Strategies: Our Experience and Approach on
Pseudophakic Monovision Published: 16 Jul, 2018
Misae Ito CO* and Kimiya Shimizu
jo61855 RonAKA
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I agree with you except for #2 above. Your surgeon must have had a reason to give you more myopia. He probably sensed that is what you wanted.
RonAKA jo61855
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Not correct. At that time with my first eye procedure which is over 3 years ago, I was very naive about the complexity and reality of cataract surgery. If my surgeon had recommended targeting 0.0 D I probably would have be ecstatic, because I did not know any better. It was the surgeon that recommended going one step down into slight myopia. He very bluntly said it would be perfect if he could give me assurance that 0.0 D is what he could achieve, but that was not his experience, and followed that with "when I miss and leave the patient far sighted they never thank me for it".
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The reality is that even with the best IOL Calculation formulas you are only in the 90% range of hitting +/- 0.5 D of the target with non complicated eyes. You can probably tolerate being left at +0.25, but +0.50 or in the case of this surgeon's recommendation at +0.65 is bad. Even with LAL which is said to have +/- 0.25 accuracy one would not target hyperopia. Targeting hyperopia in the distance eye is nothing less than incompetence.
jo61855 RonAKA
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The target is for the near eye, not the distance eye. To gain more near vision, the D power is increased. It was in my case.
RonAKA jo61855
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Sorry, I don't follow that. Targeting hyperopia in the near eye makes less than zero sense even if the lens is an EDOF.
jo61855 RonAKA
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My guess is that the surgeon targets each eye so that combined effect of both eyes working together is up to +.15. How the surgeon targets each eye, and adjusts the power for the second eye surgery based on the outcome of the first one, is a technique known to the surgeon. EDOF hybrid monovision is likely more forgiving of small misses.
RonAKA jo61855
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I don't believe his theory about hyperopia. There is nothing good about hyperopia. A natural lens can deal with hyperopia, but a non accommodating IOL cannot.
phil09 RonAKA
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"At that time with my first eye procedure which is over 3 years ago, I was very naive about the complexity and reality of cataract surgery."
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I'm trying to picture that naive, innocent, doe-eyed RonAKA of three years ago.
Nope, can't see it.
😉
soks phil09
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this is interesting.
on 1 could you tolerate greater anisometropia because your natural lens still had some accommodation?
hyperopia constricts pupils? if true then i wish i knew that earlier.
phil09 soks
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Could be partly due to accommodation, but my guess is it's mostly because I got my monovision young (LASIK) and the anisometropia later increased gradually over several years (due to a recent cataract), so I had a long time to become accustomed to it.
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Maybe not hyperopia, per se, but focusing closer than your natural focal length, which I suppose you do all the time if you are hyperopic. It's news to me also, but I do see this in a textbook called Clinical Methods: Both pupils constrict when the eye is focused on a near object (accommodative response).
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I haven't looked at the research yet in any detail, but it did start me thinking. I don't need cataract surgery on my distance eye, but if/when I do, maybe I should go for plano, rather than leaving a small amount of myopia for conservatism.
soks phil09
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i set both eyes for slight myopia because i have been a lifelong myope. that too with multifocal lenses interested in pupil constriction because i see lens edge glare arc with one eye. also the large pupil increases astigmatism at night.
RonAKA soks
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"hyperopia constricts pupils?"
Sounds more like wishful thinking that fact to me.
soks RonAKA
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i wish for my pupils to be 1mm smaller at all times!!
RonAKA soks
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Don't worry. Father time will make you dreams come true!