Vestibular Neuritis- any recovery stories?
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Hi, new poster here. Have been suffering with VN for 10 weeks. I was initially diagnosed with a gastro virus due to my main symptoms being dizziness, nausea and diarrhoea but after seeking private ENT consultant I was diagnosed with Vestibular neuronitis. I secretly suspected it was this but think I was in a bit of denial as all the stories on the Internet speak of long term chronic suffering and that terrifies the life out of me.
This condition is hell! I am dizzy and nauseous 95% of the time with lots of ear and head pressure. When I get really dizzy and sick I also get diarrhoea. I've lost a stone and a half in ten weeks as I can barely eat. It even plagues me in my sleep with dizziness making me wake up and feel horrendous, until I get up and move about which eases it a little. I have been off work since the start and need to return soon which seems impossible right now.
I have started seeing a physio and have been doing VRT exercises for a week which have made me feel much worse. I used to have the odd few hours where I felt okay but not in the last couple of weeks. Can it get worse before it gets better? Reading, writing, typing, watching TV all make me feel Worse too. I feel like there is literally no pleasure in my life right now and I can't even get relief in my sleep. I have two kids and have kept as a active as possible, caring for them and trying to keep life normal for them so I haven't been hiding away.
I don't seem to have had the acute stage at the start which slowly improves, I've just been the same for about 8 weeks and worse for the last two.
im scared I'll,never get better. I would love to hear from anyone who did get better after this time, or at least improved enough to enjoy life again or who was able to return to work. Did VRT help anyone out there and how long did it take for you to notice improvements? Sorry for all the questions! Any advice would be very welcome
Thanks
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anna49975 cally_44573
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rebecca94014 cally_44573
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Cally 44573, been going thru the same thing, be 3 yrs in Mar. I was having a few days at a time where it was bearable but been having this Vestibular migraine for 33 days now. They were like lasting 4 days, then 8 then 19 now this one won’t stop. I have sleep on my couch propped up for the last 6 mos. Before that I was back & forth, bed to couch....Been everywhere, even Cleveland twice, tried 2 different Drs there & they told me ( very bluntly)I wasn’t getting a different diagnosis. They saw everywhere I had been & all the different specialist that I had seen, just wanted to be sure, wasn’t ready to accept it, still not.... Keep in touch if I can help answer any question, I will & let me know if you come up with any thing, or have you taken anything that will stop the nausea? Will give any or accept any help I can. Thanks... Rebecca. On Fb also as Rebecca Murphy Wells, IM & we can discuss things also. Thanks again...Hope it lets up for you. Sometime I just have to be very still & not move to get relief.
nat55834 rebecca94014
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Hi Rebecca,
How are you currently doing? I'm having similar symptoms for the last 7 months and the most disabling to me is the nausea. I just came across VN as a possible cause of my symptoms so I'm just getting going w drs for that. I see an ent on Monday and a neurotologist and neuro opthamologist on 9/10.
I saw a neurologist and will be getting a brain MRI. She also gave me a referral for vrt.
Since the nausea is the most hard to live w I'm also seeing a gi. He's ordered a sibo test and gastric emptying test but I doubt those will show anything. When I go for my follow up at the end of the month I'm going to ask to have my gall bladder examined bc it can cause chronic nausea without pain.
The moments when I don't have nausea I welcome the dizziness. For me, the nausea is unbearable.
rebecca94014 nat55834
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nat55834.. Nat I had the worst nausea for 5 & 6 months at a time, could hardly deal with it, plus had a vestibular migraine with it for 45 days. Starting researching for help. I had been all over Fl, specialist after specialist for two years. Then found this site & asked for helped. Three people told me what they had done for the nausea. You can order this Canadian medicine from Amazon, called “Gravol”. 40 for $10 or 80 for $20. BEST money I spent in the 3 years dealing with vestibular problem. I took it two days in a row, nausea was gone & so was the migraine. I take it when the nausea starts & it will take care of it. It has been awhile since I have had to take it. Seems like it has helped all the way around.Don’t have as many dizzy spells now. Before it was 24/7. Falling all the time & could Harold tell I was falling until it was too late. Been using a walker for yr & half just to protect myself from falls. Haven’t fallen for a couple of months. Still sleep propped up on my couch,can’t handle lying flat in the bed. Still have the eye problems, & keep my room kinda dark & always sun glasses when I go out. Been a hermit for 3 yrs. except for Drs appt. Just now starting to get out a little, because I couldn’t handle watching the traffic go by, would get so nauseous I would have to look down. Can’t stand to watch ceiling fans, if I look at one too much it will flip my stomach.Foggy brain is getting less, but still not gone.Had to give up my golf 3 years ago this past June....The GRAVOL has been a life saver. I had tried all kind of motion sickness pills & dizzy pills, but none helped. Hope someday to get a little of my life back, but as of now the head, brain fog, just feeling sick at times, not even going to attempt golf....But 50-60 % better than I was. Hope you find some answers soon, I went through all those test too. Tampa Balance Center, Physical therapy, neurologist, Cleveland Clinic twice. They even told me to give up and quit looking for different Dr to try & find another answer.Was so glad I didn’t, couldn’t handle the migranes & nausea & found GRAVOL. Stopped the nausea & the headache will be helped.
Hope this helped, good luck & don’t give up.... Becky
nat55834 rebecca94014
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Becky,
That's so upsetting what the drs said to you. I'm so happy to hear you're feeling better!
Did you have pain with your migraines? I don't really have headaches but I know vestibular migraines can in absence of pain.
rebecca94014 nat55834
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On the vestibular migraines, one Dr said since I had regular migraines in the past for 43 years, then they stopped for 10 years, now have come back in this form. It’s not like the same hammer beating in your head kind of pain. It is a combination of things. Brain fog, nausea, head spinning, rooms coming towards you, stumbling around, can’t focus, just the sickest feeling. And yes the nausea is so bad, & the migraines will drive you crazy. Prayed a little, screamed a little, thinking it would never stop & what would happen if it didn’t ....I was having bad thoughts & getting so depressed, sure was glad to find Gravol for the nausea,stop the nausea & my headaches stops....Wish it would just stay away, but haven’t been that lucky yet. Hope you find some control of yours. Sounds like you are going through all the test everyone goes through. Good luck & hope something helps you soon .... Becky
nat55834 rebecca94014
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rebecca94014 nat55834
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nat55834... Glad you ordered it, I had a spell last night & got really nauseous & dizzy, took a Gravol early this morning & it’s gone now. We were traveling & had stopped for the night when it hit. It will make you a little sleepy for a couple of hours, but I welcomed that. And no I don’t have to take it every day, it works that good for me. Let me know how it works for you, hope it helps you as much as it does me. Becky
jasmine13533 nat55834
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tuki69330 cally_44573
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oshel cally_44573
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I just discovered this thread. It’s a relief to see others describe what has been nearly impossible to describe. I’ve been off-balance since Dec. 2015. My symptoms and experience are a long story.
For now, I just want to tell you that in my case an exam by an optical-neurologist resulted in prisms being placed in my glasses. My eyes weren’t focusing together apparently. The prisms stabilized me when I’m on my feet, it made a big difference. I still have the awful swoosh sensations in my head when I move but I became far far more stable on my feet.
In time I will read all of the thread and add to the discussion as I can.
oshel cally_44573
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I’ve been off-balance since Dec. 2015. My symptoms and experience are a long story.
For now, I just want to tell you that in my case an exam by an optical-neurologist resulted in an improvement: in prisms being placed in my eyeglasses prescription. My eyes weren’t focusing together apparently. The prisms stabilized me when I’m on my feet; it made a big difference; I nearly cried. I still have the awful swoosh sensations in my head whenever I move, but I have less pain in my head and I became far more stable on my feet with the prisms.
In time I will read all of the thread and add to the discussion as I can.
rebecca94014 cally_44573
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cally45573. My biggest relief has been the “Gravol” for the nausea. Was referred from someone on this thread, a couple of people told me it had helped them. So ordered it & it has been a life saver. Thought I was never going to get any relief but it sure helped. It is for motion sickness & I would recommend it to anyone. Ordered it from Amazon, 40 for $10 & 80 for $20
Well worth it 👌 I have some hope now.
sab65033 cally_44573
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Please let me know if you covered, and what treatment you had.
Sab
fred46459 cally_44573
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Hi,
I thought I'd write this post just to give some of those in this thread a bit of hope. It seems that all of these threads are always full of people suffering, and you rarely hear anything positive; which is understandable, because once people recover, they just want to get on with their lives!
I went down with VN/labyrinthitis at the beginning of 2016. Like a lot of people here, it seems that a cold virus brought it on initially. I was sitting down one evening at the end of the cold, got up and the room was just spinning rapidly from left to right, and I felt extremely sick. I went straight to bed, and was somewhat better in the morning. It didn't take much internet research to work out that I had labyrinthitis/VN, and I was reassured that it would only last a few days, or a couple of weeks. Things slowly improved, and at the end of 2 weeks, I was largely better, although not right, and then everything came crashing down again. To cut a long/very tedious story short, for 6 months it affected me horribly, and for the first year, life was made very difficult by it (which is a bit of an understatement). I would say that I am about 98% better now, and the last year or so I've basically been fine, with the occasional blip and a sort of gradual 'fine tuning' so to speak.
I found this thread, and similar ones very useful when I was ill, but after a period of time, you really need to stop reading these forums and just get on with getting better, living your life and trying not to think about it too much. If there's one person's posts on here you should definitely read however, it's Terrys, pretty much all the advice he gives is useful, and his experiences of the illness largely ties in with my own.
I have enormous sympathy for anyone who's going through this. To this day, I've only met one other person in the flesh who had it for as long as I did (although I've met a fair few who had it for the more typical couple of weeks/several days), and it is so hard to explain to people what it's like, as none of them really get it. Some of the side effects, such as the lag when turning your head in busy environments, are just truly unreal, and make it sound to others as if you've been taking magic mushrooms!
I also had huge problems with anxiety, which for someone who's never had any issues in that area before, was really difficult to deal with, as were people's attitudes towards it. There is a perfectly rational explanation for this as well, the amygdala which processes the fight and flight response, is also responsible for processing balance signals from the inner ear, so it makes complete sense that disruption to the signals coming into this part of the brain would cause anxiety issues.
To recover, once the initial few weeks have passed and the inflammation from the virus has died away, you really do just need to push yourself forward. I forced myself to do the vestibular exercises every morning and every night, and just generally forced myself to be active. Don't avoid crowds, try and get as much varied outdoor exercise as possible, and do anything you can to help your brain relearn and adjust to the new signals. You've seen toddlers walking around drunk as they learn to balance? The same is now happening to you (albeit in a slightly different way) and sitting round the house will not make it better.
You do need to be careful, I was in and out of work for the first three months, and in total, probably had about 6 weeks off. In the initial stages, I was overwhelmed with fatigue and felt very confused and just generally a bit thick. I used to have a nap at lunchtime, and then a brief nap after work before getting on with my evening. You can only push yourself so hard. Likewise, if you go too overboard with vestibular stimulation, you probably will feel awful the next day with a doubling down of the symptoms as your brain struggles to re-program itself, but don't let me kid you, you do need to push yourself, but just be aware of your limits at the same time.
I think it's hard to encapsulate in one post everything I experienced with this illness, but suffice to say, it was one of the worst things that's happened to me, and I had pretty much all the bizarre symptoms listed to some extent or the other. I did get through it though, and so will anyone else if you persist with working through it; do the exercises and do everything you can to stimulate and thus rehabilitate your vestibular functions. Do not neglect your social life. In my case it took about a year to mostly get back to normal, and probably a further 6 months to fully feel right again. It is a gradual improvement, which at many times is up and down, with two steps forward and one step back. Today, other than the very occasional blip, and some issues if I get very drunk or very tired, I'm essentially completely back to normal, and the only other person I know who had this, has had pretty much the same experience as me.
So don't give up! You will get better if you work at it, and it will just all seem like a distant dream when it's over. This is something you can fully recover from, it is not a debilitating disease that will change your life permanently.
nikki1978 fred46459
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Hi Fred,
Have you also felt the derealization? Where it feels like you're in another world, and like you are in a dream? It is really scary to me.
Do you also have vestibular loss?
fred46459 nikki1978
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Hi Nikki,
Yes, I had the derealization all the time to some extent, and largely felt as if I was in a dream for months. It seems to be partly due to the disrupted balance signals, and partly as a side effect of all the anxiety. I also found it one of the most difficult symptoms to deal with, although after a while you do just get used to it!
I've had brief bouts of it due to emotional stress in the past, and the same techniques for dealing with it then apply here.
When it's really strong, things like touching and holding a solid object in front of you helps remind you that the world is real, and not a dream. When it's more mild, you just have to try and completely ignore it, which becomes easier to do over time. I found that thinking about it only amplified it and made it worse.
I also found that certain things made it worse, such as wearing my glasses, presumably because they warp everything slightly and provide an extra barrier between you and the world. So I often wore contact lenses instead or went without glasses when I could.
As you get better, the derealization becomes less and less, until it's at a level where the world just feels slightly 'off', but it's relatively easy to ignore in your day to day life and when you're busy. Eventually, one day when you're mostly well again, you think about it and just realise it isn't there anymore.
I had the tests done, re vestibular loss. They confirmed I had VN. They didn't really check for nerve damage (if this is what you mean) and the doctors reasoning was that it's irrelevant from a recovery perspective, whether the nerves got damaged or not.
emilia50996 fred46459
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yay! happy success stories, im almost there too 2 years feb just gone for me. bit of a random one but did you notice travelling made things worse? and have you managed to get on an aeroplae yet? x
fred46459 emilia50996
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Yes, we need more of them lol!
I only traveled on one aeroplane whilst I was ill, and had no problems whatsoever. I was worried, because of the air pressure changes, but nothing happened.
On a more general note, anything in motion seemed to help a bit. Being in a moving car seemed to lessen the effects for instance.