Vestibular Neuritis- any recovery stories?

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Hi, new poster here. Have been suffering with VN for 10 weeks. I was initially diagnosed with a gastro virus due to my main symptoms being dizziness, nausea and diarrhoea but after seeking private ENT consultant I was diagnosed with Vestibular neuronitis. I secretly suspected it was this but think I was in a bit of denial as all the stories on the Internet speak of long term chronic suffering and that terrifies the life out of me.

This condition is hell! I am dizzy and nauseous 95% of the time with lots of ear and head pressure. When I get really dizzy and sick I also get diarrhoea. I've lost a stone and a half in ten weeks as I can barely eat.  It even plagues me in my sleep with dizziness making me wake up and feel horrendous, until I get up and move about which eases it a little.  I have been off work since the start and need to return soon which seems impossible right now.

I have started seeing a physio and have been doing VRT exercises for a week which have made me feel much worse. I used to have the odd few hours where I felt okay but not in the last couple of weeks.  Can it get worse before it gets better?  Reading, writing, typing, watching TV all make me feel Worse too.  I feel like there is literally no pleasure in my life right now and I can't even get relief in my sleep.  I have two kids and have kept as a active as possible, caring for them and trying to keep life normal for them so I haven't been hiding away.  

I don't seem to have had the acute stage at the start which slowly improves, I've just been the same for about 8 weeks and worse for the last two.

im scared I'll,never get better. I would love to hear from anyone who did get better after this time, or at least improved enough to enjoy life again or who was able to return to work.  Did VRT help anyone out there and how long did it take for you to notice improvements? Sorry for all the questions! Any advice would be very welcome

Thanks

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    Hi All,

    I was diagnosed with VN a few weeks back but the onset started on Christmas Eve 2015.  I woke up that morning spinning and couldn't get out of bed.  I layed in bed all day spinning and when my husband got me up to take me to the ER, I threw up.  The ER diagnosed me with BPPV, but the ENT later said it is VN.  Anyway, it has been a total of 7 weeks now and I seem to do really well for about a 4 or 5 days and then have bad dizzy spell.  The last time I did good for over a week and actually thought I was beating this thing and then Sunday night in the middle of the night I got dizzy again.  I had to take Bonine and ended up sleeping the entire next day.  Today I'm okay, just feeling a little off, but still very tired.  

    Does anyone know if it is normal to have bad days/nights during recovery?  I'm so fearful it will never go away.  I do think I may have overdid it this past weekend, I was exahuasted when I went to bed the night it happended again.

    Any thoughts?

    Tina

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      Not sure about VN, but if a therapist or doctor did the Epley correctly, you should not have good days and bad days. A succesfull Epley is when the crystals go back into where they are supposed to be. You might be dislodging them, but in that case you would not be better until you had another Epley treatment. 

      The neurologist told me that maybe new crystals are getting out of place. So it's a guessing game what is happening, but a successful Epley would (or should) fix BPPV. Good luck, feel better.

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      Hi Tina. I have very similar story – even down to it all starting on Xmas Eve, which was my first visit to A&E! Have seen a lot of doctors and been told labyrinthitis and that it should go away in 3-6 weeks, but three months in I still have it. Last doc said it was BPPV since it had lasted so long, but I don't think he knew what he was talking about and I think it is VN. Am hoping to get apptment with ENT and eventually work towards seeing a neuro-otologist, though GPs have refused to refer me so far.

      I've had ups and downs throughout, though as I'm more used to it and less anxious now (thinking it was stroke/heart attack/MS) it's not as bad as it was in the dark days of January. Am also wondering if it will ever go away, but people on here seem to show improvement over the months. I thought I'd beaten it last week and last couple of days have been dizzy with bad sleep.

      If it's not BPPV the Epley won't help, but VRT should, from what I've read. Personally I don't feel I've got a proper diagnosis and am trying to work towards that as the next step.

      I find these talk boards very useful, so thanks to you and everyone for posting.

      C

       

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      PS just seen very good ENT doc who tested for BPPV (I didn't seem to have it at the time) and said it's probably labyrinthitis/vestibular issues and it will DEFINITELY go away, probably for good, though it may take a few months. She didn't recommend Vestibular Rehab Therapy in my case, but said the main thing for people with the condition was not to make your world smaller: you have to keep going out, exercising, cycling, going to supermarket where possible, as activity both redistributes fluids round the body and gives your vestibular system the workout/physiotherapy it needs.

      Bizarrely, she said walking/running through trees and towards oncoming traffic (not in the road!) are both good, as is swimming – if the outer ears have no problems – since the challenge to the system will help recovery. Also she said should have my eyesight checked out in case of astigmatism which could make it worse, and avoid alcohol.

      First proper, unsceptical doctor who knew what she was talking about. Main thing is it will eventually go away, and the fact that I had had a few good days meant it was on the wane. cheesygrin 

      All best wishes,

      C

       

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    Let's keep this thread alive. It has been a huge help with information and encouragement dealing with my wife's VN.
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    Well I have now seen two ENT's on the NHS. My first one has discharged me saying there is nothing more he can do. Hearing test was fine, tried a septoplasty, that made no difference.

    Saw an ENT from the Manchester Balance clinic on Sunday, she did a few more tests, moving my head quickly, making me track her finger, dropping me backwards quickly. She then said she it is not balance related and that I need to return to my GP. She has referred me for an MRI scan to rule out anything else.

    I had my annual eye test and the optician did a much more in depth exam based on what I told her. She has ruled out the eye being the issue but thinks it is VN as she had a friend with it and had the same symptons. She explained that my astigmatism makes is hard for my brain to understand the messages from the eye. She said contact lenses would be better for me and she is right, glasses make me feel slightly worse.

    I have tried a chiropracter for 8 weeks with negligable results, at £32 a week I have stopped. I have a family friend who is a physio trained in VRT and she has given me exercises. I have found a slight improvement in the severity of the condition (I am not as tired as I was) but I am still a long way from being well. I still feel spaced out, light headed, slightly drunk from waking up to sleeping. I never feel normal, but rarely feel much worse. Only when there were moving disco lights around me at a wedding last year did I notice I felt worse or when I haven't had much water at the end of photographing a wedding day.

    I'm not expecting much from the MRI next month, but I am starting to think I may be hitting a dead end with the NHS. My first ENT dismissed VN as I have no hearing loss. The second ENT never mentioned it. I am still doing the VRT exerciese in the hope that they will eventually start to have an effect.

    Any advice on my next move, referral or best private healthcare for this in the North West or Yorkshire would be appreciated.

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      Hi James,

      I see Mr Rea at the London Road clinic or Spires in Leicester.  He is the top man in the country for these types of conditions and he has helped me.  After 15 months I now feel on the road to recovery, strill a way to go but getting there.

      For information Mr Rea is featured in  a channel 5 documentary on .31st March helping a lady who has suffered for years with dizziness, the program is called medical mysteries.

      All the best

      Laurence

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    Hi guys,

    Reading through these forums has been informative and confronting.

    I am just going through a "pity party" at present due to the frustrating fact that even after going to various specialists I am really none the wiser.

    as many people have said you need to do your own research to help speed this along.

    my symptoms started with noticing that I wasn't walking in a straight line.that continued for a while before waking up one morning with nausea and vertigo.The vertigo got really bad and I couldn't drive to work.

    If I looked at the horizon I couldn't get it to stay still.

    I went to a chiropractor who said I had a kneck of solid concrete.

    I got a new chair at work and a change in posture.Went to a physio also who gave me posture exercises.Had my eyes checked,they were fine.

    After 2 months I went to the Dr, the to a ENT specialist,MRI etc.

    ENT said I had Ménière's disease.After going for various balance tests he changed is mind as some of the tests didn't make me dizzy .Now I am to go to a neurologist,I can't get to see one until Oct.This has been going on now or 7 months. after reading these forums I realise that this could take me a very long time.

    I have had to resign from my job which has upset me greatly and at present feeling very depressed with what the future will hold.

    Family are concerned but don't fully understand that my 'drunken walk' may be here to stay and certain activities will be restrictive.Like myself in the beginning....doctor will give me a pill,and everything will be fine in the morning...

    Thank you for letting me vent.

     

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    Hi cally,

    It looks like you posted this a long time ago but I was just diagnosed with VN and I am desperate for support or encouragement.

    My story began 9 weeks ago when I suddenly had an intense dizzy spell and felt like I was fainting. I laid down and felt like my body was floating and falling all at the same time. I went to stand up and I felt like I couldn't walk. My legs felt like they were swaying. I was terrified.

    I went to the doctor and she told me it was just a virus. She didn't look in my ears. Finally I went to the ER and was diagnosed with a middle ear infection and bad wax blockage, which probably contributed to the VN. They referred me to an ENT and he did not help me at all. He printed out a couple exercises and walked out. Only after reading the notes from my appointment did it say that he suspected VN. After weeks of having "bad days" and "less bad days" I actually felt like I was getting better. This week, I have completely gone downhill again. Finally after doing my own research, I demanded my doctor to refer me for VRT. Today was my first appointment. I feel more hopeful, but at this point I am so depressed and anxious. I can't even remember what it feels like to feel normal. My eyes don't focus, my head feels like it's floating off and my ears are still ringing. I am dizzy from sun up to sun down. I can barely drag myself to work every day and I am falling behind. I feel like no one understands.

    I hope someone sees my post and has advice or success stories. I can't enjoy even simple things like eating at a restaurant or shopping.

    (I should also mention that I've had CT, MRI, bloodwork, and everything is normal).

    Thanks and I hope you are better now.

    Jennifer

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      Don't mean to butt in but, Cally no longer monitors posts on the site. The VRT is a good start and should help in the recovery process. It does get better but, it will take time and it is a very slow process. It will not correct itself over night as it began.

      Another thing to try is to reduce your sodium intake and to keep as active as possible. If you are taking any vestibular suppressants, meclazine, anti-very, etc., you need to try to stop those. These suppressants will delay compensation. Also, make sure to drink plenty of water. Your vestibular system will have to have time to adjust to a change in the signals from your inner ear.

      It will get better. The medical community doesn't know a lot about the condition or how it needs to be effectively treated.

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      Anti-vert is the other medication. Auto correct thinks it knows what I am trying to type.
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      Thank you for the advice! I think I drink enough water but I know my diet has been horrible since I just want to grab something quick to eat and not cook. My doctor prescribed promethazine but it just makes me drowsy and doesn't do anything for the dizziness. I have bad allergies and I think that contributes also to my "really bad" days like yesterday and today. The physical therapist also told me I have a horrible stiff neck which is a contributing factor. It's hard to think that it's already been 9 weeks and will still take more time but hopefully therapy will speed up the process.

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      The stiff neck is caused from the musles trying to compensate for the vestibular loss.  I see a massage therapist that has helped that tremendously.  Promethazine is an antiemetic and vestibular sedative.  i would get off od f it as soon as possible to not inhibit the compensation process. have been dealing with VN for 2 years.  You may recover sooner but, there is no set timeframe.  Jst take it day by day.  Allergies also affect me as well as barometric changes.  I have more issues when I am experiencing sinus problems.  A steroid usually leas those issues forme and helps jump start my continued progress in recovery from VN.
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      Hey Jennifer! So sorry your goin through this. I had the same thing happen. Last September had real bad sinus cold. Few days later got hit with massive blow of dizziness. Now it is 7 months later.. Last few have been definitely better than the first few.. Still deal with constant dizziness, headaches.. No spinning but floating and falling sensation. Like I'm in a boat constantly. Soon will take another test where there trying to rule out Meneires disease
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      That's exactly how I feel. I haven't had vertigo in the sense that I'm spinning but the floating feeling scares me so much. Sometimes it's worse when I lay down. It's so hard to explain. Last week I felt so much better and this week has been so discouraging. It's the worst I've felt. Another weird symptom is that my ears are so sensitive to certain pitches which is causing tinnitus. Usually gets worse throughout the day. I am really hoping a combination of exercises and massage for my neck gives me some relief.
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      I'm going to start seeing a massage therapist next week so I am really hopeful that will help. I have a lot of pain at the base of my skull and have always had a tight neck. Have you noticed any particular foods or herbal supplements that help?
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      I have a 2000mg restricted diet of sodium each day.  In addition to that I take ginkgo and an 81mg aspirin each day.  I also supplement liquid vitamin D and was drinking ginger tea for nausea.

      If you have a falling or floating feeling when you lay down you may want to try propping up on a couple of pillows when you sleep.  That helped me.

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      I have tried ginkgo and that has helped me most days. The floating is at its worst this week and I don't understand. I do feel like I'm fighting off a cold/ having bad allergies this week so I tried taking a decongestant. The constant sense of floating and falling is completely disorientating. It's such a scary feeling. Sometimes when I turn I feel like my legs could float right off, especially when I turn towards the direction of the damaged ear. When I try to explain it to people they think I'm crazy. If I could find the slightest bit of relief from that I feel like I could handle the other symptoms. I will definitely try to prop myself up at night.
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      Terry, can I use this thread an ask you a couple of things?

      At five months from first symptoms, a private ENT consultant has given me a "differential diagnosis" of [I quote from his letter] "1. vestibular events and vestibulopathy 2. Panic attacks 3. Paroxysmal dysrhythmia" and recommends further audivestibular tests. Meantime - as I explained to him-  I have muscle spasms in arms and legs, as well as joint pain (shoulder, wrists), stomach upset, palpitations, ectopic beats. He referred me for MRI which came back normal, as have general blood tests and a 24-hour ECG (tho there were no palpitations at this time).

      I went to see an osteo today for muscle problems in shoulder and forearm, he told me that my nervous system was "hot" [ie working at full capacity] and said I should oush for referral to neurologist at the earliest opportunity. Plus, since I travelled to Africa a bit last year, I should get screening for tropical viruses too.

      The osteo is not a doctor, but what he said chimed with me, since I have all these muscle tics, muscle pain and fatigue. I don't believe they are caused by anxiety - they're just way too specific, and come at times of little stress.

      Do these sorts of neurological symptoms match up with anything you have had? I wonder if I have been misdiagnosed and have some sort of tropical virus attacking the nervous system instead. But getting to see anyone who is specialist is very difficult -  my next available GP appointment 3 weeks away!

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      Since you were seeing so much progress, I woud definitey say that it is the coldsinus that is currently affecting you.  I believe that you will feel better when that clears up.  I highly recommend prednisone/decadron if you are not opposed to taking it.  When I experienced a bad cold or sinus issue it got me back on tack.  Anything that adds fluid to your inner ear is going to negatively affect the VN.
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      I know that this condition causes a lot of anxiety and that anxiety causes a lot of mysterious pains throughout the body that we might not neessarily associate with anxiety.  While recovering from VN I have not experienced any of the symptoms that you mention, though.  It did cause my neck to have pains and spasm.  From my neck it also hurts into my shoulder but, I have had past pain in my shoulder as well.  While recovering I also have experienced ligament pains in the calf of my legs.  This usually comes on when I over do something though, causing the muscles to have to work against the vestibular imbalance.  I can usually treat that effectively with heat.

      My symptoms have been typical VN with onset vertigo, a heavy head, fogginess, imbalance, headache, dizziness, bouncing vision, etc.

      Wouldn't your blood test show something that may have been picked up or did he indicate that a specific test would need to be done to determine that?  Did your issues begin with vertigo? Do you experience Oscillopsia?   

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      I'm not opposed to taking anything at this point so I may try that. I've always had issues with fluid in my ears and sinus drainage due to allergies so I'm sure that's what's dragging me down. Did you have problems with tinnitus or sensitivity to sound?
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      I have had tinnitus for years but, yes after VN I have experienced several occasions where my ears are overly sensitive to sound. Sometimes to the point that it hurts. This is especially prevalent when I am experiencing sinus problems or a drastic change in barometric pressure.
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      No oscillopsia, no. On Christmas eve I went to A&E with palpitations and dizzy sensations. They did an ECG and tested my blood for a heart attack and found nothing. Around Jan 5, I woke up in the night with a sharp headache and dizziness and felt like I was bumping into things when I got up. I had the dizziness pretty much constantly for more than three weeks, then went to drive son to football and had nausea and dizziness and tingling/numbness in my left arm, and went back to A&E, where once again they found nothing wrong having done basic neurological checks (walking in a straight line, tapping knee etc). 

      Six weeks in my heart started doing a lot of ectopic beats and I had throbbing head/palpitations (heartbeat so strong I felt my body was shifting with it!). This period coincided with a lot of exercise, and went away a week later. Palpitations have come back less severely now, about 20 weeks in. 

      I don't really feel dizzy. I do quite a lot of exercise. My vision and hearing are fine, but muscles, heart and stomach not.

      Osteo didn't suggest specific blood test, no - I don't think he knows enough about that, and neither do I. I thought about Lyme's but symptoms don't seem to match. I did tell all docs I had been in Africa, but they didn't do any particular test related to that and I don't know if general UK bloods would pick things like that up..

      Other VN sufferers seem to have had heart palpitations and muscle pain, but, like you, most seem not to; it's more dizziness and eyes. A GP said my heart issues were completely separate to labs, but it seems too much of a coincidence to me as I never had them before. I can believe anxiety creates panic attacks and can cause palpitations in certain circumstances, but not that it has caused these neurological and muscular problems.

      The osteo - unprompted - said it felt like I'd had a car crash, or similar trauma to my head/neck. I haven't.

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      Hi Jennifer 

      I am also a new poster but looking for some encouragement and thoughts from everyone. I particularly like Terry's posts. I have been feeling off balance and quite nauseous for about 9 weeks as well. I also feel incredibly anxious and find it hard to sleep as my head spins when I am lying down. I have been taking sleeping pills but then I started to get tingling hands, night sweats and  tremors so I think I need to come off them. Has anyone else had trouble sleeping becauseof spinning? Other than that I feel incredible fatigue and just not myself. I have started some of the VRT exercises. Need some ideas on how to cope with this as my life has changed dramatically. I saw an otoneurologist who said my ear tests were fine as well as brain scan so he was not able to offer advice. 

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