Vitamins the importance of the content and volume!!

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I have spoke to friends and read on this board that some folk do not find that some vitamins work for them, and that maybe so but!...

Please make sure you are taking the correct IU mgs ETC a friend of mine was telling me she only took 500mg of Primerose a day and 100mg of Vit E ..that;s way to low and she bought them at the $1 store or for folk in the UK the same as Pound Land, these are not going to work or highly unlikely, if you can invest in all natural and higher quality you have a better chance of making changes and seeing a difference in your well being.

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    Hi Astrid

    so true

    thats why i keep mentioning at least 100mg if B6 and the jarrows 5000mcg B12

    for example... 

    hope your well hun..

    i am having a tearful spell again today... so sick of it ...

    jay jay xx

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      Aww Jay!!!! Thinking of you and sending huge hugs lovely 💓xx
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    Hi Astrid,

                    got it, just ordered Vitamin B6 but at higher dose I already had some in but having more info have realised they were way too low.

    Next Vitamin B12's

                                       Merci Beaucoup Guru lady

    lol 

    • Posted

      Hi Mrs Merm

      nice one 😀

      I recommend Jarrow B12 5000mcg cherry flavour red label 

      su bienvenida

      Jay xx

    • Posted

      Kay see these b12 .. Why do we have to take such a high dose?  I am on B6 and tKe 100 mg daily thanks to you and I am feeling better after three weeks not tried the b12 not sure if I need them how will I know? Thanks 💓XX 
    • Posted

      Hi trevis

      i mention the jarrows B12 5000mcg as it is the best one the 5000mcg.. too much B12 doesnt harm anyone...  and peri and meno ladies tend to lack these vits..

      just to remind ladies of the B6 and B12 info

      i take 150mg B6 daily in the morning..  also B12 for energy... brilliant 

      also a mega B 100mg complex that contains 100mg B6 is a fab all rounder.

      Menopause Mood Swings & Vitamin B6

      Vitamin B6 may alleviate menopausal mood swings.

      During menopause, mood swings are inevitable with estrogen fluctuations as the body ends its reproductive years.

      Vitamin B6 may be one answer to alleviating increased agitation, depression and anger. B vitamins are responsible for mood stabilization by controlling hormone production in the brain and regulating hormone levels. B6 declines as menopause sets in and mood swings become evident. Increasing this vitamin may give women the added boost they need to enjoy the golden years with a better mindset.

      For women who suffer with brain fog, and memory issues in perimenopause, low levels of B6 could be part of the problem.

      Depression, confusion, and an inability to concentrate are all associated with B6 deficiency. Vertigo, dizziness, and heart palpitations are also common complaints from women going through perimenopause.

      All of these symptoms have been associated with (among other things) a B12 deficiency.

      Vitamin B6 can also help with stubborn weight gain in perimenopause. It is key in the breakdown and utilization of carbohydrates, fats, and proteins in our diet, and is necessary for a healthy metabolism - both which can help manage weight.

      **** B6 supplements of ****100mg to 300mg per day ... depending on severity

      B6 may also assist HRT absortion if ladies are taking HRT. 

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    Hi Ladies

    Jay I am sorry you are feeling not yourself today sad let's hope it passes quickly and you get make to your normal bubbly self xx

    I do not take a B6 must be the only one I am not taking, I have the old, as I call it,"grandma pill day to day counter", so that I know what I have taken and what not taken, because there are so many I loose track lol

    I must be popping something every 2/3 hours and go to be by taking lastly Primerose gel caps 2600 mg 240mg GLA(combined) and bought some mulit vits for calcium, magnesium, and zinc, during the day I take Vit E, D12, Kelp, and 5 or 6000mg of D3.

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      Hi Astrid..

      oh thanks hun,  i am sure all will be good soon..

      just tackling the problems that was picked up on my smear..

      explains alot as often i felt i may have thrush, and used canestan and not felt much improvement..

      turns out i had something that mimics thrush and thrush together..

      now my bladder feels sensitive too.. 😫

      So ladies if your have thrush and treat it and it persists, it may be what i have now .. 

      my smear came back with a Bacterial vaginosis this particular one i have is CV... Cytolytic Vaginosis .. and thrush 😩, i had no unusual symtoms, just thought I was sore with dryness due to menopause .. no unusual discharge .. 

      Cytolytic vaginosis, which was previously known as lactobacillus overgrowth syndrome or Doderlein's cytolysis, is an important cause of vaginal discharge, particularly in women who are otherwise healthy. 

      To understand the pathogenesis of the condition, one needs to appreciate that Lactobacilli are a key component of the normal vaginal flora in healthy women of reproductive age. They help maintain an acidic vaginal pH (4.0-4.5), and also reduce overgrowth of E. coli, Candida spp., Gardnerella vaginalis and Mobilincus spp, via the production of hydrogen peroxide (H2O2).

      However, overgrowth may occur in some of these women; the abundant lactobacilli then damage the vaginal intermediate epithelium, causing lysis of those cells. 

      The underlying etiology for the overgrowth is still unknown; however, patients with diabetes mellitus have an increased incidence, as Lactobacilli are more abundant in women with high serum glucose levels.

      Interestingly, lactobacilli levels have been observed to increase during the luteal phase; this explains why many of these patients experience an increase in symptoms during this time.

      While the true incidence is still unknown, cytolytic vaginosis is believed to account for around 1% to 5% of all vulvovaginal complaints. 

      Unfortunately, the condition is often missed, as the symptoms and signs are suggestive of vulvovaginal candidiasis (VVC); thus, patients self-diagnose themselves inaccurately and medicate themselves with over-the-counter (OTC) antimycotics.

      As mentioned earlier, the symptoms of cytolytic vaginosis mimic those of VVC; thus, many of these patients present with a lengthy history, possibly due to previous misdiagnosis.

      They typically complain of a thick, odorless, white vaginal discharge and intense pruritus; dysuria and dyspareunia along with a sensation of vulvar burning or discomfort may also be present. 

      Note that the symptoms of cytolytic vaginosis characteristically cyclical; they tend to increase in severity during the luteal phase with a peak shortly before the menstruation.

      The physical examination may reveal an erythymatous and edematous vaginal tissue; the cervix, uterus, and adnexa typically appear normal. 

      The investigations required for diagnosis are relatively simple; these include microscopic examination, vaginal pH measurement, and any other investigations necessary to rule out the other differentials.

      Microscopy of a saline wet mount typically reveals a large number of intermediate epithelial cells, copious amounts of lactobacilli of varying lengths, and cytoplasmic debris (including bare or naked nuclei). Leukocytes are sparse or generally absent. 

      Note that, some lactobacilli may adhere to the fragmented epithelial cells; this can be mistaken for the “clue cells” of bacterial vaginosis. 

      The vaginal pH is typically acidic with a range of 3.5-4.5. 

      In many patients, the diagnosis of cytolytic vaginosis can be challenging, due to the high degree of similarity to VVC. Thus, the following diagnostic criteria have been suggested:

      - Strong clinical suspicion of cytolytic vaginosis.

      - Absence of Trichomonas, Gardnerella or Candida on a wet smear.

      - An increase in the number of Lactobacilli.

      - A paucity of white blood cells.

      - Evidence of cytolysis.

      - The presence of a characteristic discharge.

      - A vaginal pH between 3.5-4.5.

      The key goal of management is to restore the vaginal equilibrium; this is achieved by increasing the vaginal pH in order to reduce the number of lactobacilli.

      In many women using tampons, the vaginal pH can be sufficiently raised merely by discontinuing tampon use and thus restoring menstrual flow.

      The other main modality of management involves douching with a sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) solution, by using a sodium bicarbonate suppository vaginally, or via sodium bicarbonate in a sitz bath. This is typically performed twice weekly for 2 to 3 weeks.

      Note that if symptoms persist beyond 2 to 3 weeks of treatment, re-evaluation is warranted. 

      Patient education is also an important aspect of management; this includes informing them about the condition, and providing instructions on basic vulvovaginal care (i.e. using cotton undergarments, and avoiding the use of soap to cleanse the genital area). 

       

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      Thanks for this jay and hope you soon feel better.

      Taz xxx

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      Getting there but they've buggered up again so all is still in the air, hope to sort it Monday. Operation now hanging by a thread.
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      When they did my smear a month ago they found I had a form of thrush I had no idea I had it, they put me on a vaginal antibiotic to insert once a day before bed, I took it and since then have had issue's a kind of creamy discharg Urghhhh, so anyway cotton underwear and no tight pants/trousers and luckliy I had a supply of "Diflucan" from the UK that I had brought back with me, in the US it's prescription only, and so far so good, it 's working   xx

      Get well soon xx

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      When they did my smear a month ago they found I had a form of thrush I had no idea I had it, they put me on a vaginal antibiotic to insert once a day before bed, I took it and since then have had issue's a kind of creamy discharg Urghhhh, so anyway cotton underwear and no tight pants/trousers and luckliy I had a supply of "Diflucan" from the UK that I had brought back with me, in the US it's prescription only, and so far so good, it 's working   xx
    • Posted

      Hi Astrid

      wow they dont normally give antibiotic vaginally unless an infection..

      maybe you had similar to me..

      i have Dalacin ( Clindamicina) for the CV infection each night..

      then a treatment for the thrush after those of Laurimic 200mg ovules

      ( Nitrate Fenticonazol) vaginally.. 

      canestan doesnt work for me anymore... nor does the tablet you take orally 'fluconazole' 

      seems when us ladies have constant thrush through our life times and use the same med canestan the thrush becomes immune to the treatment..

      so from now one in future i will use the vaginal Laurimic and the Laurimic cream. ( nitrate fenticonazol) 

      just been to farmacia as my sensitive bladder again..

      years ago i use to get the urge to wee and pain and thought i had urine infection or cystitis... ( i may have yet)

      but sometimes in peri and meno we have these cystitis symtoms and its just the estrogen decline affecting bladder making it sensitive and tense and i was given some Oxybutynin tablets to take as and when so just got some more incase.. 

      hope your okay today..

      jay jay xx

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      It was Metronidazole vaginal version of Flagyl 0.75 GL still have the box 

      It did not work.

      xx

    • Posted

      Hi Astrid

      we call Metronidazole the dentist antibiotic as always given for dental..

      orally 😊 not vaginally 😊

      is also given for some female probs ..

      hope your okay today 

      have a nice one

      jay jay xx

    • Posted

      Funny different countries use certain antibiotics for different issues, I am sure if you Google you will see that here in America its used as a threatment for vaginal infections, but I have taken Flagyl tablet form, for a gum infection a few years ago.

      Not to bad today thank you and I hope you have more spring in your step today xx

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