What is better Synergy or PanOptix?

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PanOptix: Near at 40cm.

Synergy: Near at 33cm.

PanOptix: Can scratch at transplantation.

Synergy: No scratches.

PanOptix: Quadfocal so may have soft spots.

Synergy: Continuous range of vision from 33cm.

PanOptix: Better night time effects.

Synergy: If it uses EDOF design there will be exaggerated night time effects.

PanOptix: Distance is A if symfony distance is A+.

Synergy: I have noticed that some posts have said near to be a bit blurry.

What do you guys think? My right eye is GONE!

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    Do you need a toric correction? Not sure the Synergy has that option yet...

    When you look at the defocus curve for the Synergy it looks very impressive compared to the PanOptix. As a believer in the "there is no free lunch" theory I wonder if there is a tradeoff to get that nearer vision compared to the PanoOptix? There seems to be none in the defocus curve.

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      no toric needed. synergy toric is now available in europe. synergy non toric is not available in the US so i will have to travel.

      synergy defocus curve is impressive indeed. thanks for your input.

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      Isn't synergy toric also available in Mexico ?

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    I was looking at those lens also, but I wanted the bang on refraction that the Rxsight lal gives. I found out that Codet in Tijuana Mexico is doing the edof enhancement ( In trials in US and Europe) right now. I'm going to go there unless something changes. I'm in Phoenix.

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      i think the LAL would still be a monofocal with the ability to choose your distance post op.

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      Not at Codet. They offer the edof enhancement.image

      Might be wise to wargame the hard choices if you don't like the outcome ( Surprise! ) of the regular surgery ( you bought it, as the man says )?

      With regular edof/trifocal iols, you have 4 options to* try* to fix it. ( Heavy emphasis on the verb try) Btw that verb has $$$$ attached to it.

      1. cut n weld ( lasik , lri ) Oh Boy! You're gonna roll a 7 this time for sure , right?

      2. glasses ( Maybe some magic progressive lenses will get you close to the vision you tried to get in the first place. Maybe not.* Best Case*= your stuck wearing a very expensive pair of glasses that you paid alot of money to avoid in the first place = Best Case. Your still stuck with the weirdo glare/halos/starbursts but hey, what did you want for only 6/8/10 g extra. Btw this is for The Rest of Your Life.)

      3. Iol exchange. ( clinical term for " dig it out and try again" ) Not much to go wrong here. Piece of cake.

      4. Live with it. For The Rest of Your Life. 90% pick door#4.

      This is why i'm going for the lal. Give them a call. Ask how much.

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    Sorry to gear about your RE soks. Tough decision to make. Is travel an option to Europe? With pandemic spiking again seeing more restrictions.

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    Sorry to gear about your RE soks. Tough decision to make. Is travel an option to Europe? With pandemic spiking again seeing more restrictions.

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    Sorry to gear about your RE soks. Tough decision to make. Is travel an option to Europe? With pandemic spiking again seeing more restrictions.

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      yea travel has really put a hindrance to this.

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      It seems like the Synergy IOL is available in Canada, but I am not sure it is possible for Americans to get the surgery done here. The first obstacle would be the current ban on all non essential visitors to Canada due to COVID. The second would be our healthcare systems that does not allow queue jumping by paying for private services. That issue may vary from province to province, and I really don't know where it stands.

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    Soks: I don't think any of us can know which is better. Synergy is more recent, and has good looking defocus curves. But not clear if halos/glare will be worse than PanOptix (since while marketing suggests EDOF has less halos, from comments of posters and Danish_Viking (who had EDOF in one eye and Tri-focal in the other eye), it seems in practice EDOF has more halos, and Synergy being a mixes bi-focal and EDOF.

    I forgot which lens you have in your other eye. Many suggest sticking to the same manufacturer is best.

    E.g. Recent Article: A Mix-and-Match Comeback? says that in US, bilateral PanOptix is becoming more common to get binocular summation. But one doctor said where mix and match is used,"I find that **mixing and matching is most successful when lenses are mixed within the same family (manufacturer) **because the optics are similar,”

    So unless your research shows one is clearly better than the other, you may want to stick with J&J if you have J&J already, or Alcon if you have Alcon already.

    Also found an ariticle from July this year in theophthalmologist "when-a-doctor-becomes-a-patient". The ophthalmologist has Symfony in one eye, and just got Synergy in the other eye.

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      this doctor has a youtube video too. he said the synergy eye picture is a little smaller.

      in that video he says panoptix has gaps that synergy doesnt.

      the youtube video is: klinka svjetlost

      j&J Vision Tecnis Synergy CEMS webinar.

      from other youtube videos panoptix has less halos then symfony according to youtube videos of 2 patients with symfony in one eye and panoptix in other. they also say symfony is slight crisp distance vision. panoptix is better closeup vision.

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