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What is the best non-prescription, natural arthritis treatment? Anyone tried arthro360 or jointace?

Hello people, I am a newbee here desperately looking for advice. I have OA in shoulders and fingers and it is killing me. I have been on Dolobid and Codeine for five months now and am barely coping. The pain is not getting any better and my GP hasn’t told me anything about is going to happen in the long run.

I really want to do something more natural than just put these chemicals into my body. Has anyone got any thoughts on those joint pills you can buy everywhere like Jointace? I don’t trust anything on the high street that my GP hasn't recommended me.. but then again, it wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t any good. Should I just try the stuff?

 

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  • alex1970 alex1970 gemma18843

    ​Dear Gemma - so sorry to hear you are =smallstruggling, but you have come to the right place. Most of us here have been there and there is a way forward.

    Firstly, in answer to your question. Yes, you can and should use joint support supplements - but you want to do it right. Dont just buy anything. Some are good and some are just rip offs.

    Basically, your goal is to slowly wean you off the Dolobid and Codeine using food supplements, because they can actually replace the prescription medication. I have been taking glucosamine, chondroitin, omega-3 and rosehip for years and am doing ok.. I just take paracetamol sometimes so why dont you have a look at buying something, which includes this too?

    Jointace is ok, but they have several jointace products and I always get confused which one is best and the dosages are very low anyway. I normally buy my joint pills on sale at Holland and Barrett. I have heard of arthro360 but never really looked into it. Let me investigate over the weekend and come back to you.

  • rose43746 rose43746 gemma18843

    Dear Gemma, I concur with Paul. There are literally hundreds of studies, which support the use of natural nutrients like glucosamine to treat arthritis. 

    This meta-study for instance, quotes 30 studies to demonstrate that you can significantly improve pain, stiffness and physical function when you take NSAIDs such as Dolobid or Celecoxib together with glucosamine sulfate to treat your arthritis: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3346693/

    Paul's suggestions above made me have a look around for you as to which nutrients and how much of them could be useful if helping you with your arthritis.

     

    According to clinical studies published on the National Center for Biotechnology Information website the following nutrients have show beneficial effects in treating arthritis: Glucosamine Sulphate (minimum 1000 mg / day), Chondroitin Sulphate (minimum 500mg / day), MSM (minimum 300mg / day), DHA & EPA omega-3 fatty acids (minimum 200mg each / day), Hyaluronic acid (minimum 50mg / day), Collagen (minimum 300mg per day), zinc (10mg per day), selenium (minimum 50 mcg / day), manganese (minimum 1 mg / day), vitamin C (minimum 50 mg / day), vitamin D (minimum 20 mg / day), vitamin E (minimum 30 mg / day).

    These dosages are all fairly low and should not be causing any side effects. However, please verify this list with your pharmacist. 

    Now, in practice you cannot possibly take all of these nutrients separately. You would be popping pills all day long.  [lol]  

    I don’t want to recommend any specific arthritis supplement so please do your own research but buy the best you can afford. I would perhaps try to find one or two supplements, which include as many of these nutrients at the right dosages as possible. 

    BTW - I have not found any convincing studies for rose hip or green lipped mussel for example. It is up to you if you want to try those. The good news is that you have many alternatives. Do please investigate these yourself and discuss whatever you do with your GP and pharmacist. 

    I would love to hear from you how you have been getting on if you decide to go down this road. Good luck!

    • alex1970 alex1970 rose43746

      Hi Gemma, thank you for pointing out amitamin arthro360. I have checked it out and found lots of interesting stuff. 

      I compared it against Rose’s super helpful list (thank you Roserazz) and thought it was really very good.. and much easier than taking all the pills separately like I have been for ages.

      Then I googled it and found a page called jointspecialists or something, where it is compared to lots of other supplements. That page says it is one of the best on the market.. together with another product called aminoexpert arthro pro. It is quite similar to arthro360, the only difference is that it does not have omega3s.

      I still have about 4 months worth of omegas so have bought arthro pro for now. When I run out of omegas I might try arthro360, because it just has it all in one box.. and I will keep taking to rosehip on top.    

      Will let you know how I get on with it.

    • Sarahgirl Sarahgirl rose43746

      This is the most helpful post I have seen in a long time. Thank you Rose!

      We have Arthur in the family. My sisters and I have been taking just glucosamine and omega-3.. not knowign that we should have been taking the other nutrients too!!! I have priced your list up in the Holland & Barrett penny sale and got to easily more than £33 a month and at least 7 different pills per day. Arthro360 and ARTHRO PRO is just 2 different pills per day and they both work out at almost exactly the same in price (£30 per month), because arthro pro is £7 cheaper per month but you need to buy the extra omega-3, which I think is better anyway, because you need to take some extra. I think you can take a lot more than the 400mg DHA & EPA omega-3 in your list. We take 2 x 1000mg per day and I have heard some people take several times that..

  • luis17129 luis17129 gemma18843

    I’ve got Arthur in my knees, fingers, feet and shoulders and started taking arthro360 10 months ago. I have looked at a lot of supps and this one is hands down the best value.

    I initially went with arthro because it is a simple all in one combo product. It's got all the standard stuff, omega-3 and even pine bark extract. Since I discovered it half my family takes pine bark, because it is a super antioxidant, which is  anti-inflammatory and thought to be one of the most promising herbal treatments for the whole body. 

    I genuinely feel less pain since I have started taking arthro and I have managed to reduce the celecoxib to just 500 per day. I also became a vegetarian recently, because I have a suspicion animal fats aren't as good as we are led to believe.

    Gemma, I am truly sorry Arthur's also got you now.. but remember to keep moving.. don’t get caught in the vicious cycle of pain and immobility. I do gentle yoga and swimming.. take care of your joints now.

  • gemma18843 gemma18843

    whow guys, thank you so so much. I found that comparison on the web .. really useful for glueless people like me. I like both arthro pro and arthro360 but have just bought arthro360 because I dont need to buy omega. Hope to get it quickly because the pain is terrible. I am so glad I asked here and that hopefully I am not wasting my money. Luis, I will keep you in mind everytime I am thinking about not moving wink

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  • maximilian88 maximilian88 gemma18843

    Hi Gemma,

    All the natural nutrients mentioned so far are known to ease the effects of arthritis. Though most will not completely do away with the pain, long-chain omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA can significantly counter act the inflammatory symptoms associated with arthritis. Not sure what the recommended daily intakes are in the UK for these omega 3 nutrients but WHO recommendations for the EU are stand at about 200 mg per day. 

    • gemma18843 gemma18843 maximilian88

      Hi all - thank you for your thought. I have done a lot of research and just bought 9 months of arthro360 + extra Omega-3 - fingers crossed it helps! cheesygrin I will try and clain it back on my insurance.

      Dear maximilian88, thanks yes I do take SimplySupplements High Strength Omega 3 1000mg, which gives me 180mg of EPA and 120 mg of DHA per capsule. amitamin tells you to take 3 powder and 1 fish oil capsule of arthro360 per day, which are all included in the box. Its fish oil capsule provides 90 mg and 60 mg of EPA and DHA. The EU the RDA is 500mg so there is plenty of room :-) Livestrong says up to 3,000 mg is fine. I usually take about 1,000mg of DHA+EPA per day.

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