what is the ven future are we gonna stuck on it for rest of our lives

Hi Moe,

yes, it took 6 months in my case too, to begin to float out of the worst. - and for 18 months I felt great - a person so different from how I'd been for the previous 50 years. Sadly, after a year and a half (or so) I just acquired increasing internal anger. When about six and a half years had passed i gave up the Ven cold- turkey. Never to go near an anti-depressant again. The following 2 years were precisely the scratching of fingernails on a blackboard, night and day, but at last I came to terms and began to realise I'd never be any better that I am with no meds at all. Meantime I had developed several food intolerances and so my diet is quite limited compared to what it had been.

I trust this may act as something of a guideline.

Philip

i have been on 150mg for 2 and half years. i am also on mirtazapine and reducing that slowely. i will reduce ven next as it seems these meds are not a long term solution.

can i ask dis your relapse leave you with no choice but to go back on. did you quit cold turkey or taper as the risk of relapse is much higher if you come off fast. it may be if you sat out the relapse you could of moves through it. i know easier said than done !!!!

these meds are not meant to be taken for life and poop out. it makes us very vulnerable and then there is the side effects.

hello, im definitely from the school of thought that if a med works, you feel good on it, and you know that you are one of lifes thinkers or worriers, then you should stay on it for good, or as long as it works. lots of people come off them, feel.good for a few months, then relapse. some persevere, stay off them and do well though. i know i think too much, so for me the chances of relapsing are high, so im happy to stay on them. it can be much more difficult to try to get back onto a med, and for it to work. you were on a low dose, it worked well for a long time previously, and i think you should persevere with ven. once you are settled on it, then stay with it. none of the experts know exactly why meds stop working, they all seem to admit that. a couple of long standing posters on here, dont believe they do stop working, its things going on in your life that worsen your symptoms, so your med no longer is sufficient. You either need a dose increase, or change to a different type of anti depressant. i never believed them, but ive come around to their way of thinking. i dont think you ought to be worried about them not working im future, there are too many variables to consider, and you dont know whats going to happen. i was on my last one for 20 years, stopped working, when something bad for me happened a 1.5 years ago. took 15 months to get where i am now on a different med, but feel really good. ive learned some self help things that really help, and i feel better now than for as long as i can remember. a med can work for a few months, or a lifetime. the same can be said for someone getting mental health issues, that have never been on a med, or any other illnesses. there arent any guarantees. i started on 37.5mg of ven about a year ago, and increased by 37.5mg each time, every month or 2, where i ended up on 337.5mg in feb. had 15mg of mirt added, and dropped ven back down to 267.5mg. i could never increase ven by more than 37.5mg at a time. it was too much for me in one go. from what youve said, i would recommemd 112.5mg for you, and dont change your dose by any more than that at a time.

dear nigel leme shear this important thing with you

dear i am pharmacist and when i had my first episode 8 years ago

i decided to treat my self by myself

all i asked for the recommend med and more safe and went to a psychiatric only once for

more confidence that am on the right track

then i took it very carefully and as recommend and started with 75mg

i never felt wonderful within few months at all

it took me almost a 3 years to feel 100% am totally back to normal and i was so patent

i experienced many up and down and experiences many anxiety periods during these 3 years since my main problem was anxiety and depression came after

after that i realized i was right and yes it need long time with suffering

because i wanted to help my brain by half of the mission and wanted my brain to self-reliance,

human body and system so so smart more than you ca even think

the human body can relays on any things get from outside instead of producing it by himself thus whenever you give your body outer factor that can mimic it natural hormones or substance or can help the body to lean on it will act lazy as hill

as much you give your body help as much your body say hey thats cool leme just get a nap and wait your supply

to give you some examples diabetic people there pancreas work half percent than normal people and once they start taking insulin there pancreas lose it function by time

as much the patent insert more insulin as the pancreas lose more and more of it function until it impaired

now our brains act the same this AD meds block the serotonin receptors re up take

thats mean it keeps the serotonin in the brain as long can for the brain to use it before it re uptake and dissociated

if you increased the dose you block more these receptors and keep the serotonin for longer time and let your brain relay on that there are serotonin on there and no need to re-produce

can you imagine thats make the brain more lazy from producing more serotonin

thats why my advice you suffer little more and you gain more help from your brain rather than keep your brain a side from producing it nature substances

hope thats make since and so sorry for long words 😃